Yup, I've seen a few of those. Usually related to a Chrysler product.......... I run from them, screaming obscenities usually. Not welcome in my shop. Had a friend last night trying to convince me to work on one of these piles, and I was like, nope, sorry buddy, my wrenches don't fit that thing. His reply........ It's not really old, and its only been sitting for 6-8 months. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.......that's what kept going through my brain. Nope.