I ordered this exhaust from amazon.com, it cost me $108.00 for the catback, and $35 for the test pipe (cat delete). So i recieved my order in about 3-4 days, opened the box to find a very pretty shiny exhaust. Everything bolted up perfect, i couldnt believe how well this exhaust fit on my 93 4 door civic (has a d16y8 swap). First start up was with the silencer in, it is a bit more quiet but revs in the upper rpm range it gives that ricey tinny sound. Second start up i took out the silencer, its louder but you get a very good tone, no cheap tin can like sound, this exhaust sounds very bad ass with the silencer out...