Honda D Series Forum banner

1 - 20 of 36 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
88 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Seriously I love this country, I'm one of only a few people that has an American flag on my house all year long in my housing development. When I hear the national anthem my eyes get misty and the hair on my back stands up.

But since 2008 I've had this fucked up sinking feeling that this country is slipping down. Our current president is a fucking pussy and a joke on the world stage. We are become passive as apposed to aggressive.

I have a huge feeling that 2016 isn't going to be a good year. I think she's going to get elected because these dumbshits that colleges have been pumping out will vote for her just because she's a democrat and a woman. It's the "we got a black man in as president now let's get a woman in there!!!" Not enough people actually pay attention to what someone really is and what they stand for, thy just vote along party lines. Hell I bet a small percentage actually knows the constitution. Hillary resigned from SoS because she dropped the ball on Benghazi, she quit so she would to be fired.

We need a badass as president not a libtard old bitchy hag that is a power freak.

I just want America to turn around and climb up the hill to sit on top again.

Fuck obomba and fuck hitlary!!!!

I just had to vent sorry.
 

·
Registered
Love the Civic
Joined
·
1,817 Posts
 

·
Two men shy of a group
99 civic sedan ex
Joined
·
1,312 Posts
That's exactly how it's going to work, people want to make history so they will vote for a woman next. I'm not a political person so all I can do is hope that a woman doesn't ruin us more than Obama. I also really hope that we can get rid of this Obama care shit asap
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
844 Posts
all this and talk bout Hillary is pointless

probably wont make it through the primaries again

our next president will be a male Mexican
 

·
Premium Member
2005 Legacy GT
Joined
·
1,754 Posts
People don't seem to realize how small the political spectrum in this country is in the big scheme of things. Everyone starts throwing around buzz words like facism and socialist without having a clue what they're saying ... just repeating the latest from their favorite pundit. People have this notion that the democrats and republicans are so far from each other on the political spectrum that they'd need high powered optics and heavy artillery to see and/or hit each other, when the truth of the matter is ... they're close enough to lick each other's eyeballs.
 

·
endo_bobo
1998 Civic Sedan
Joined
·
877 Posts
The media really seems to be getting on to Hilary lately since she is campaigning as one of the people but she made all her millions through less then up and up means.

I really think the number of people in this country that want standard US values like it used to be far out weigh those that want it to be the "utopia" the current administration think is best for everyone.

EDIT* You can go on all day about what Obama has had a hand in that the media wouldn't state he knew at the time it happened. Same with Hilary. Funny how when Romney was running "someone" told Boehner that Romney didn't pay taxes and he was rich while recently the Clintons are redoing their tax forms from the last few years cause they didn't pay taxes on donations of theirs. Which is another funny thing that just came out, most charities have at least 80-99% of every dollar donated go to the actual charity it is for. The Clinton Family Foundation only 15% goes to whatever it is set up for which isn't real clear. The rest goes to expenses.
 

·
Premium Member
2005 Legacy GT
Joined
·
1,754 Posts
We need to worry about our people first and not everybody in the world
Oh good. I'm not the only one who thinks we need to piss off out of world politics/peacekeeping for a while. Can we please fix what's broken here, instead of trying to turn everywhere into us?

There's nothing wrong with a mildly (or even very) isolationist foreign policy ... Japan did it for years (until our navy forced them not to) and they were doing just fine. China has historically been pretty isolationist as well ... with varying degrees of success.
 

·
Registered
94 Civic Ex Sedan
Joined
·
815 Posts
Like Daniel the Tiger says, I think we all need to take a deep breath and count to 4. Lol but seriously politics generally suck right? Right now at least I think...

Personally, I meet around 6 people a day for 1 hour-90 minutes, and I think there is a change for the better. Seems our younger population is smarter and not blinded by media brainwashing as much. Of course this is just my perspective..

Maybe it's just me.

I think if we live and be the change we want to see without trying to change others beliefs, change for the better is inevitable.

I am curious to see the state of the world in 10 years. Hopin for the best cause I'm an optimist, generally.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,092 Posts
Hahah as if I went unnoticed all this time.

From Puyallup again, too.

There are more sheep by FAAARRR in America at least. I think while maybe there are less people that believe the media, there are more that are completely swayed by it and the General Perception.


While that picture is nice, the politician has built a support under-himself by scraping away the cliff under the people

They don't need our vote, it is only an illusion. They are almost fully self supporting.

This country is NOT at democracy.
 

·
Registered
94 Integra
Joined
·
1,225 Posts
I'm curious...

I'll pose this question in a way that is relevant to this website. If you buy a car from an auction, and the car was originally seized because someone committed crimes in it, should YOU go to jail for those crimes?


I'm not saying Obama or either Clinton are infallible, but I AM saying it's silly to blame a response to the original issue instead of blaming the original creators of the issue. If "the other side" had handled many things in the last decade with a little more class instead of with an ass-load of self-entitlement, maybe we wouldn't even have Hilary in the spot she's in.

In other words, if you set the bar so low it's practically below ground, don't point fingers when the other guy fucks you in the pussy - in this the other "man" being a woman with a strap-on dildo...
 

·
Premium Member
2005 Legacy GT
Joined
·
1,754 Posts
Hahah as if I went unnoticed all this time.

From Puyallup again, too.

There are more sheep by FAAARRR in America at least. I think while maybe there are less people that believe the media, there are more that are completely swayed by it and the General Perception.


While that picture is nice, the politician has built a support under-himself by scraping away the cliff under the people

They don't need our vote, it is only an illusion. They are almost fully self supporting.

This country is NOT at democracy.
You are correct ... and if you read anything about the way it was set up it was never meant to be. It was set up as a republic/representative democracy. A republic, in theory, is rule by law ... not the people, and, again theoretically, the people choose others to represent them in deciding what those laws should be. There are too many people to do an actual democracy ... especially now that the definition of who "counts" has changed since this country's inception.
 

·
Registered
Love the Civic
Joined
·
1,817 Posts
I wasn't posting that pic to show the voting power of people.

Don't you all know the way to shut them down is with your wallet.

They changed the system into a capitalist one, now lets use it against them.
 

·
Registered
Prelude, Integra DB9
Joined
·
358 Posts
We had an old duffer in the UK once who from time to time came up with some excellent observations. For example:-




Much earlier, you had a chap in the US of A who was just as smart:-

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,003 Posts
Biggest problem with our political system imo is that it is 2 party winner take all. That means you HAVE to be a weaseling bastard to get 51% of the vote.

Think about it like this, if you have strong convictions, and strong ideals, and have a firm direction picked out that you think will work best, how many people will agree with you out of a random sampling of the population? Maybe a few % agree with everything you say, and a few more agree with most of what you say, but no way is 51% of the population going to get behind you if you clearly state all your opinions, beliefs and goals.

The people who get the vast majority of people to like them do it on a casual level: you tell each group what they want to hear. Thats why all politicians have so much in common, to be a politician who actually gets voted in, you have to get the moderate middle ground, and both sides do that by telling them the same lies.

If you ever want to test this out in person, go into a large group of people you dont know and start socalizing, at first just be nice, dont make waves or stir anything up and most people in the room will be fine with you. Then profess a strong opinion about something, almost anything is fine, some people will disapprove, and some will stay. Do it again and again and again, in the end you will loose the majority of the people in the room, but chances are you will have a strong core group that firmly believes you are on the right track. Politicians CANNOT do this and hope to get elected in this country.

I had an interesting professor who said that public approval is like currency for a politician, because the more things you actually try to do, the more people will dislike you. If you say we HAVE to fix the national debt, so we are going to raise taxes and cut spending, lots of people will hate you, and some will think you are 100% right. If you say the national debt isnt so bad, and we can lower taxes and increase spending, lots of people will think you are a moron and some people will think you are 100% right.

Keep that in mind when you judge Obama, Presidents who dont try to make things happen are well loved, simply because they never did anything to piss anyone off.

That being said, Presidents are not the sole leaders of this country, they are not all powerful, they dont get 100% of what they want, and what they do get is usually heavily comprimised. They also have to deal with the mess left behind by ALL the previous administrations.

Personally as much as rabid conservatives hate the guy, I think Obama has had good intentions, and has tried to move this country foreward in many areas. Compare that to Bush Jrs blatant greed, lies, self interest, and national regression all over the map. If I was given a choice right now between Obama being the president for the rest of my life, or Bush Jr getting to serve another single term in office, I would take the former 100% of the time.
 

·
Registered
1995 Honda Civic Ex
Joined
·
361 Posts
I'm curious...

I'll pose this question in a way that is relevant to this website. If you buy a car from an auction, and the car was originally seized because someone committed crimes in it, should YOU go to jail for those crimes?


I'm not saying Obama or either Clinton are infallible, but I AM saying it's silly to blame a response to the original issue instead of blaming the original creators of the issue. If "the other side" had handled many things in the last decade with a little more class instead of with an ass-load of self-entitlement, maybe we wouldn't even have Hilary in the spot she's in.

In other words, if you set the bar so low it's practically below ground, don't point fingers when the other guy fucks you in the pussy - in this the other "man" being a woman with a strap-on dildo...
This is exactly how I feel. I've heard a lot of people bashing Obama and Obamacare but I've seen very little to no evidence backing that aggression. Under the Obama administration Public Enemy Number 1 (Osama Bin Laden) was toppled, many high ranking officials in the Taliban have been killed, and like it or not, the medical industry was revamped. There is no "perfect" scenario for health care or running the nation. You inevitably will upset some while helping others and if you do things the opposite way, you switch those who are upset and those who praise you. All one can do is try and find the way to appease the masses. President Obama is not a dictator. He cannot have done everything and anything he wanted on his own. Don't blame one man, there is still a strong checks and balances. Finally, think about other countries, especially the images of the streets,housing, and buildings we see in the media and tell me with a straight face you aren't still proud to be an American. I wouldn't live anywhere else.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
88 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
This is exactly how I feel. I've heard a lot of people bashing Obama and Obamacare but I've seen very little to no evidence backing that aggression. Under the Obama administration Public Enemy Number 1 (Osama Bin Laden) was toppled, many high ranking officials in the Taliban have been killed, and like it or not, the medical industry was revamped. There is no "perfect" scenario for health care or running the nation. You inevitably will upset some while helping others and if you do things the opposite way, you switch those who are upset and those who praise you. All one can do is try and find the way to appease the masses. President Obama is not a dictator. He cannot have done everything and anything he wanted on his own. Don't blame one man, there is still a strong checks and balances. Finally, think about other countries, especially the images of the streets,housing, and buildings we see in the media and tell me with a straight face you aren't still proud to be an American. I wouldn't live anywhere else.
Obama didn't get bin laden. The military did, it was just a matter of time, bj jet happened to be sitting in the Oval Office when he was caught. Catching him was a given. Killing or arresting Taliban/ AQ is also a given. The military makes it happen, the president actually doesn't have much input on who gets red lit on getting captured.

Obamacare is a joke. My insurance went up to 1,400 a month through my work if I wanted to have my whole family on it. I'm forced to pay 466 a month just for myself....: because Obama made it to where if your health and welfare money isn't used towards company supplied health insurance, it is forced into a 401k. I get $4 an hour for h&w. I can't have all that get lost to a 401k and have to go pay for private insureNce. I'd be losing out on wayyy too much money that used to go straight into my checking account. I'm pissing so much money away from required healthcare, just to support people that "didn't" have healthcare it's not even funny. Funny thing is that if you went to the er or hospital and don't have money they couldn't refuse service to you. Back then I wasn't paying out the ass....

Obamacare is a joke.

Whatever happened to if you like your plan you can keep it..... Liar Obama lies just like anyother president.

The man has said that if something desnt get passed by congress that he will just go around them and just do an executive order. Which he has done more of them than anyother president. What's that sound like? Oh maybe side stepping checks and balances... Yup. Awesome .
 

·
Premium Member
2005 Legacy GT
Joined
·
1,754 Posts
The man has said that if something desnt get passed by congress that he will just go around them and just do an executive order. Which he has done more of them than anyother president. What's that sound like? Oh maybe side stepping checks and balances... Yup. Awesome .
ORLY? He's almost caught up to the previous president (and will probably get there) ... but he still has a ways to go to be the most prolific user of executive orders.
 
1 - 20 of 36 Posts
Top