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Introducing myself and my project

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I am new here and pretty new to Honda engines.

I have built race and hot street VW air cooled, Small Block Chevy, and Holden (local GM in Aus) and a Toyota 7M-GTE

I have done mostly motors, but some transmission and body and chassis work.

These varied from a 1970 model full timber ski boat to a 1912 model 1 tonne truck to sweetened up daily drivers to speedway midgets, to 6 litre circuit and ski race boats to supercharged, MFI alcohol drag cars so I am not a newby to performance engine building.

I will have a number of questions specifically about D series Hondas as I am restoring and modifying a 1988 Aussie model CRX.

Only one trim level was offered in Aus, but the good news is it is pretty much identical to the JDM Sir with 4 wheel discs, 6? X 14" alloy wheels, no back seat at all (just a parcel shelf and fold down divider between passanger and luggage areas), twin cam 1600 EFI motor and close ratio 5 speed with short diff ratio. I am still trying to sort the exact specs.

The engine is a D16A8 with catalytic converter rated at 127hp.

I also have ordered the driverain less motor out of a 1988 JDM Civic Wagon with 6 speed (really a 5 speed plus a stump puller low that is not normally used except in tight situations off road) transmission and Real Time 4 WD.

I also have a D17Z1 SOHC non V-tech motor only out of an early 90s Aussie model Civic.

I also have access to several turbos, one with a 36mm inducer and the other somewhat larger, but not yet measured.

I intend to restore the CRX to look as factory stock as possible. OEM trim, maybe leather steering wheel and gear knob, no non OEM body kit nor spoiler. OEM suspension height Maybe harder springs and bars and shocks. 15 X 6.5" or 15 X 7" wheels.

For front brakes, I am considering DBA 5003.1 rotors which are 278mm X 15.9mm and weigh 2.7Kg. I am still looking for 4 spot calipers, possibly those from a Nissan Patrol. I will need to make some aluminium hats for the rotors to mount on. For rears, I might use the OEM fronts or the DBA 5003.1s again. I need to research 2 spot rear calipers and parking brake arangement. If the rear calipers do not include a parking brake, I might need seperate very small mechanical calipers, or mountain bike discs and mechanical calipers mounted inboard. I might need a bigger bore master cylinder.

I intend fitting an LSD to the front at least, probably a Quaife unit. I might put a locker in the rear if traction is still an issue. Probably not with the 1988 Honda RT system.

It will retain OEM air conditioner and power steering and central locking converted to remote.

I will attempt to remove some weight but I do not want to reduce comfort. Maybe fibre glass bonnet, front guards and hatch with Lexan MR rear windows and hatch (maybe).

I hope with the 4 WD and Propane conversion to not add more than 100Kg, hopefully less than 80Kg due to weight savings elsewhere.

A good Alpine stero with 10 stack, but no external amplifiers or boom box speakers. If they don't fit in the OEM provisions, they won't be fitted.

It will be converted for liquid injection, propane fuel only. I will remove all traces of the original fuel tank, lines, pumps, filters etc.

The car has 400,000 Km on it and is very original except for the new gear box and regular maintenance. It runs and is not noticably smokey, but leaks oil, and has vague steering. Gear box is a brand new Honda replacement fitted a year ago.

Motor needs rebuild. Suspension needs some bushes and shocks. Seats need complete rebuild. It has some minor rust holes in pillars near glass. Paint is completely RS but original red. OEM bumpers only need minor repairs. I paid A$800 with new tyres and 6 months rego.
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just thought i would bump this...

hope you guys understand :(
Absolutely, makes me sad!
^Great Idea!!

I just finish reading everything in this thread. Damm the old man sure knew how to have fun, only thing he didn't work on (that we know off) was a plane, LOL!! Would have been fun hanging with him for sure.
Understood. We should set up a members Hall Of Fame and have Pat as our first inductee. Along with milo (because he was such a goof and so much fun) and a few currents not just past members. He was a very helpful guy to this site from day1.
please please do this it would be so great.
patprimmer HAS to have youtube videos out there yes?
i found this, but no youtube...
patprimmer's Profile = Eng-Tips
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Bone can find them if there are.
Because of having a quote from Pat in my sig below, that is not possible.

All the searches come back to me it seems.

One day I need to dig up another quote from him to me. I hope it wasn't a PM I deleted.
The amount of restraint he showed toward a couple of fucktards on the first page... Shows his maturity I guess.
The amount of restraint he showed toward a couple of fucktards on the first page... Shows his maturity I guess.
He was and will continue to be a sage in the realms of DSO.
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The amount of restraint he showed toward a couple of fucktards on the first page... Shows his maturity I guess.
My thoughts exactly.

Requiescat in pace, Pat.
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In for a hall of fame section! Just went through this. Pat was the best!
I 100% agree with the DSO HOF and Pat/Milo should be the first.
This is the 1912 model Little Giant 1 tonne truch with a bus body on it.

We have just welded up the crankcase, we are having sleeves installed and new pistons from a top fuel Harley as they fit

I need to have a set of rods made, I will make a crank and I will make a blank cam.

I have a Honda motorcycle dry sump oil pump to hide inside the oil tank to modernise the oil system so it does not throw another rod.

I built the trailer beside the Integra specifically to accomodate and transport this.
I just saw Downtown Abby and it had one of these little giants

RIP Pat
wow....do cars not rust over there....this thing is in awesome shape!!!!!.....does propane have torque like gas???....i mean can you burn the tires....does it toss you back...."what a concept!!!!".....this one is going to be fun to follow along!!!
why do some of you got to be such butt heads to new folks all the time...jeeeez grow up!!!!......and as for the original comment to the VTEC THING/.....perhaps if you had said...." in your searches make sure you spelL VTEC......versus your v-tech....your results will me greatly improved"......could have avoided all this little boy bitching!!!!!........cant we all just get along>>>>>?...(100 bux says i get spelling gigged by some nimble mind)
Clearly the point about this post being brought back up from 4 years ago, to show what a great man Pat Primmer is, has completely slipped past your grasp.
Btw, I have been in talks with Pat's daughter as recently as yesterday. Sadly, they still do not know for sure what happened. Whether it is lethargy on their part or whatever, I do not know. I did hear that he had gone through cancer in his past; whether that was related or not, I don't know.

I didn't want to bump the other thread until I knew for sure what had happened.

For me, knowing about the cause is more for closure than anything else.
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Btw, I have been in talks with Pat's daughter as recently as yesterday. Sadly, they still do not know for sure what happened. Whether it is lethargy on their part or whatever, I do not know. I did hear that he had gone through cancer in his past; whether that was related or not, I don't know.

I didn't want to bump the other thread until I knew for sure what had happened.

For me, knowing about the cause is more for closure than anything else.
Sometimes the old ticker just runs out of gas.

PS: I asked for one of the posts in here today to be removed out of respect.
Sometimes the old ticker just runs out of gas.

PS: I asked for one of the posts in here today to be removed out of respect.
Done..... im still kinda in awe over this
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