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Ok first I will start off by saying I haven't contacted fjt on this issue. Figured I would get a faster response by posting on here what is going on while putting the bearings on the rods we noticed that the edges don't line up when the caps are in the proper alignment, this is with the stamps on the same side as well as the notches. then flipped the rod caps and they lined up properly, but now the notches are opposite each other. every thread i have looked at says the notch and stamp need to be on the same side. so, here are the pics of what i am running into..

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First, contact FJT about htis.

Second, I would not run those with thee caps 180° out.

That sucks to see. Hopefully this is just a fluke. He has another batch of the D series I beams coming Monday.
 

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First, contact FJT about htis.

Second, I would not run those with thee caps 180° out.

That sucks to see. Hopefully this is just a fluke. He has another batch of the D series I beams coming Monday.
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well, if their NEW rods and bearings I dont see why you cant use them flipped 180*. Its not like they have 50K miles or something and worn a certain way.
 

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well, if their NEW rods and bearings I dont see why you cant use them flipped 180*. Its not like they have 50K miles or something and worn a certain way.
Do you honestly think that the machining is perfect?

All it takes is the bore to be a few ten thousandths off to one side or the other and the resultant bore from flipping the cap 180 will be out of round.

Besides, I really don't think having the bearing tangs in different locations than intended is a good idea.
 

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putting them 180° out will result in spun rod bearings easier. the tabs for the bearings cannot be in a straight line like they are. at least thats what my dad has taught me, and hes built at least a hundred engines. none honda. but i figure the rule of them was good. and as far as im aware my rods and bearings line up fine. and those should work ok even put together properly. But still contact FJT on the matter.
 

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I dont think its either a rod or bearing issue.. i am leaning towards the machine shop who did the work as they have to work both the crank and the rod when you install oversized bearings...this is one of the reasons Honda does not recomend oversized bearings and they do not sell them.. they rather install a new crank than go oversized.

Measure the rod out of round but i think it is perfect... which means is not the rod.
 

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how do you know the bearings are oversized? if so that makes the most sense to me.
Because he is using .25mm oversized bearings.. he gave me the info and i sold the rods ad bearings to him.
 

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no. hes saying he knows he had to get everything machined by a machine shop and they messed the stuff up. which makes perfect sense if you know how they do things for over and undersized bearings. they mill the rods or rod caps... or both. then rebore the hole. and turn the crank to the lowest spot when its out of round to make it perfectly round again...
just means they placed the tabs for the bearings in the wrong spot when they remachined them.
 

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hmmm Sir.you shouldnt put words in my mouth that i havent said...

ACL as well as other aftermarket companies Makes Oversized bearings... so are you saying as well that ACL and other companies are selling things that dont work?...

I said Honda does not recomends or sells oversized bearings... making them work is a strict work of the Machinist and the engine builder that is the specialist in taking all the necessary measurements and MODIFY things to excat specifications...
 

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So you sold things to him that you say now don´t work?! hmm.....
STFU, FJT is one of the best people to deal with on the net. If it was an issue that he was at fault for then I'm sure he would have it fixed ASAP.
 

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I said Honda does not recomends or sells oversized bearings... making them work is a strict work of the Machinist and the engine builder that is the specialist in taking all the necessary measurements and MODIFY things to excat specifications...
correct. honda doesn't recommend over sized bearings.
 

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I believe it was a combo of your wording and the question mark and exclamation mark. I believe you meant to say "Are you saying they were screwed up in the factory" or something similar. Which the answer would have been in my post below yours.
 

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The reason for using this crank is the crank bolt that holds the harmonic balancer on backed out after work one day had to drive it 22miles with out it. the snout of the crank where the woodruff key goes had a chunk missing out of it so when I got home the car was parked and the engine swapped. After no luck finding a crank that was in good shape i hit up a buddy that works for a local parts store he helped me get a remand crank turned .25 with bearings included the only problem was it came with ls rod bearings. So I just let fjt know what size i needed when i ordered my rods and superkit. The rods were taken to the machine shop only for the purpose of notching. The block the block didn't have a spun bearing. i am going out to my garage now to get the old bearings and see if they line up i will report back shortly
 
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