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Hi DSO,

Thought i'd post up the latest project i've been working on. A mate and me have always thought it'd be cool to get a cheap ED and go halvsies in a track car. The plan would be to strip most of the interior, add a bucket seat / harness, coilovers, EFI conversion and find a salvage car to pinch the running gear from.

Then this popped up:









140k kms, bit of paint fade and it'd been tapped in the rear but otherwise pretty original and straight. Also auto which isn't ideal, but my mate builds the EF'ED hydraulic clutch conversion kits so we weren't worried.

Picked it up a couple of days later.

 

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Literally the next week another sedan popped up for sale for basically nothing, manual, silver (mostly) and tapped in the front. Also it had a set of OEM alloys which i quite liked the look of and an OEM Honda Access lip spoiler which i think looks sick.

So went to go pick it up without seeing it in person and there was definitely a reason it was cheap haha. It literally felt like everything had been removed, broken and then tek screwed back on. But it starts perfect in all conditions which is rare for these twin carb setups, its manual, and the back end was straight.









Driving it home felt dodgy as, the indicators would only go on solid, the mirrors were all broken and the front end as you can see was barely hanging on. Also i was driving it with concessional registration so the car had no plates haha.

When i got it home i took the front end off and straightened it up a little to see if i could get it looking reasonable, as i was planning to drive it to my mates place where we're going to be working on them... Was actually pretty straight under all the ruined panels:





Anyway, drove it out to my mates place where we had to decide which shell to keep and which to scrap. Both had their perks.. One was manual, one was low kms, one wasn't mint coloured lol. We ended up deciding that we're going to keep 'Minty' and scrap the Silver Bullet.

 

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Didn't have a huge amount of time, but we managed to swap the back end off the Silver Bullet onto minty. Also someone had vinyl wrapped the roof black because the paint was fading underneath, so we took that off because faded OEM paint>black vinyl roof





Also started stripping the bits of interior we're not going to need / audio etc. Found a family of cockroaches nesting behind the trunk liner :tank:



and that was about it. We've been keeping an eye on auctions for a salvage DC2/DC4 or CRV that we can pinch the motor from, and then a mate of mine offered me his old DOHC ZC. If any of you know me, i'm pretty partial to the old DOHC ZC haha, so we're going to go pick it up this weekend.



The goal is still to eventually go B series, but the DOHC ZC will get us out on track at least, and we get convert it to EFI / manual etc so we can be a bit more picky when waiting for the right salvage car to come through.

We'll be running with the trans from the Silver bullet, and because it's a SOHC box it wont have the equal length driveshafts which is a bit sucky, but probably wont be too bad.

More to come, but that's it for now!
 

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:)

minty choice gonna be fresh!
Yeah it's super mint ... by colour haha.

Drove up and did a little parts swap, picked up the motor from a mate up north who's currently building a badass wagon which used to be a DOHC ZC, now a b18c, he just got it back from paint:



Then we head out to the wreckers to pick up a rear disc setup:



Looks rough, but with fresh rotors / pads / bushes it'll be sweet.

Check these beauties out:



By the time we actually got back, it was getting late and we only managed to spend about an hour actually wrenching. We started by stripping off the garbage panels off the front. Ideally we'll be sending this shell to the EF heavens ASAP.

If anyone chasing carby or RHD bits hit me up.



The motor didn't come with manifolds, but we'll just run the SOHC header, and luckily i had a spare DOHC manifold lying around. I spent a couple of hours piecing together all the sensors and cleaning it up:





Also picked up some buddyclubs for cheap:



Pretty surprised how light these wheels are with tyres. should make a good track wheel.

That's pretty much it for a couple of weeks.
 

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So started working on the EFI conversion last weekend. I've got a PM7 to run that DOHC ZC on that was in my car before switching to Hondata.

I'm planning on unplugging the carby cabin harness from the ECU and running a harness that i make between the PM7 and the engine harness, and then splice in the couple of wires that need to connect back into the carby cabin harness.

Luckily enough, when i redid my cabin loom on my EF, i pulled all the wiring needed to run the motor out (depinned and didn't cut) so i began repinning the ECU plugs which i kept for my EFI sub harness.





This is why i don't throw stuff away! You never know when it'll come in handy haha.
 

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Someone bought the parts shell for their own project, so we spent the weekend ripping in and removing all the bits we wanted to keep off it. Mainly all the parts we need for the manual conversion. I sold the car with the motor though, and we had to fab up a mount to keep the motor from flopping out of the car while it's getting towed to its new home:





Turned out sweet actually.

Once this thing is out of the yard we can start focusing on minty. We've already started accumulating a bunch of parts, so i'm keen to start getting it ready.
 

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Drove up and did a little parts swap, picked up the motor from a mate up north who's currently building a badass wagon which used to be a DOHC ZC, now a b18c, he just got it back from paint:

Those speedfactory radiators are awesome. First time I saw one was recently when I went to the dyno, they had one in a customer's car. At first I thought it was an intercooler but it's not! Great location, fat core, plenty of room afterwards to do crazy header designs and/or turbo locations!

You always have insane posts man! Great quality and attention to detail, I'm sure this new project will turn out fantastic. Will continue to check up on the progress!
 

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Those speedfactory radiators are awesome. First time I saw one was recently when I went to the dyno, they had one in a customer's car. At first I thought it was an intercooler but it's not! Great location, fat core, plenty of room afterwards to do crazy header designs and/or turbo locations!

You always have insane posts man! Great quality and attention to detail, I'm sure this new project will turn out fantastic. Will continue to check up on the progress!
Yeah agree those radiators are awesome. I would've gone one with mine, but i wouldn't be able to get it to fit with my header and heat exchanger setup.

Thanks for the kind words, can't wait to rip in and actually do something exciting. Feels like this whole time we've just been preparing things (boring).

This is my first EFI conversion on a dual carb ED, so also keen to get that done too.
 

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Had a big weekend on the pos, probably the last weekend we'll get to work on it before the new year... :|

It's also finally allowed into the shed now that the floors have been epoxied.. So much nicer than working in dirt haha.





As you can see, lots of typical scunge buildup







Quick degrease though and it came up mint!



Some comparo pics:









Also stripped out all the HVAC garbage that we don't need anymore:



I picked up a CRX dash that i had intended on putting into my EF, but i wasn't too happy with the condition of it, so i think it'll end up going into this... Pics to come in the new year, but we mocked it up and it looks SICK.



Our goal is to get the car under 900kg's/~2000lbs... They're apparently 950kg/2095lbs factory, but with the bigger DA brakes, bigger DOHC motor and swaybars i wonder if we'll be able to hit the target...
 

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Not without Swiss cheesing it. Rear window regulators, crash beams, glass for lexan, rear firewall, speakers, radio, heater core, many ways to get 50kg out of it.

How did the BC Racing Coilovers work out?
 

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Not without Swiss cheesing it. Rear window regulators, crash beams, glass for lexan, rear firewall, speakers, radio, heater core, many ways to get 50kg out of it.

How did the BC Racing Coilovers work out?
They're installed but haven't driven on them yet. Keen to see how they perform though, i bought them second hand for a steal.

Everything under the dash will be gone, and if i can figure out a way to keep the rear windows up without the regulators i'll take those out too. Have considered running lexan rears, but i'd prefer to stick with the glass for now, and see where we're at in terms of weight. All the stereo is stripped, and will be lifting all the sound deadening too.

In the Honda workshop manual i've got it lists the factory weights for the different trim specs, apparently the lightest ED sedan sold tipped the scales at 875kg/1929lb!! That's ridiculous for a full interior road legal car. I know those things have tiny brakes, a half rad, a 1.2L single carb D series and manual everything, but still...

I'm hoping to pick up a DOHC ZC gearbox this weekend to make a short ratio box between that and the SOHC box we've got. Should liven it up!
 
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