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Old 09-14-2010, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So when i was putting the motor back into the car, I installed a new clutch kit consisting of a new clutch plate, pressure plate, pilot bearing, and throw out bearing. So I got everything together and when i start it i hear a sound that sounds like a bad throw out bearing.

So i replaced the new throw out bearing with the old one. Still the same noise. So i check and than replace the trans fluid with new. And still the same.

Any ideas what else it could be? I have read and seen that it can possibly be the Input shaft bearing. I am really hoping that its not that. I am trying to sell the EJ and nobody wants it with that noise.

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Forgot to say that the sound only happens when you have the clutch pedal released. When you have it pushed in the sound goes away. But i think i can hear it while driving too. Its hard to tell with the exhaust that bangs around and hits the car.
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likely ISB.

Then again Spam.... that I sold a tranny to is having same issue, both with old tranny and the one I built.

It has me stumped.....and thats not so easy.
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I've had that same problem before and when I changed out the transmission for a different one it went away so it might very well be the input shaft bearing and also did you grease up the throw out bearing recently I was told I should think about doing that cause usually I just throw em in and let it ride.
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Well, i read a couple places that said you dont need to grease the throw out bearing cause they are internally greased. But i might try that with the new that i have out now. Any recommendations on what type of grease to use? i have no idea on that part.

I just really dont want to throw a different trans in the car just to sell it. They are hard to come by around here. And the only other one i know of is an si trans that i was gonna buy for my my auto to man swap in the four door.
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TB needs a little grease on the contact points with the clutch arm, a little grease on the tranny snout so TB slides smoothly.

I use high temp wheel bearing grease.

The TB itself is already greased internally. DO NOT try to clean it other than just a simple wipe down when reusing.
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Ya it's really only the shaft where the bearing actually slides on that it said to grease not the bearing itself if that makes sense and I can't remember what kind of grease they recommended but I wanna say it was a marine grade quality cause it's supposed to last longer or something or the sort. Don't hold me to it though I don't wanna give you wrong info this is just what i know of the top of my head from reading threw others experiences online.
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i didn't try to clean it with anything but my shop towel. I read about that. I was thinking about ordering a different throw out bearing, the clutch kit i got from a friend, and i think it was a cheapy no name brand one. It had never been used and was only sitting for a couple weeks, but still.

And i honestly cant recall if the trans made the noise before the motor swap. I only moved it like twice before pulling the motor.

Is there any way to check to see if the ISB is bad besides pulling the trans apart?

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Urea (sp?) grease I think is what Honda suggests....I've never needed nor used it.

ISB is easy to check. Grab your shaft and wiggle. It shouldn't wiggle.
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Thank you sir. I will have to get the trans back out in a couple days. Hopefully the weather holds out for me. I dont have a nice garage to work in. lol. Just my back alley driveway.
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OEM TOBs are pricey might I add! LOL
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Mine has the same issue. All gears shift great but you can hear the noise when the clutch is released. It's a brand new tranny from attarco in sacramento =(
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Ya the trans shifts great. I can drive it and not have any problems. But that noise is just annoying. Well, the weather is getting shitty, so it looks like i wont be able to get to work on it till this weekend.

Another question. I have a cable trans laying around from the D15B2 i bought out of a 88-91 civic. Is there anyway i could convert that over to work? I know that trans is good.
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Only way of converting is switching it all over to cable.
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pilot bearing? maybe?
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Only way of converting is switching it all over to cable.
Dam, dont want to do that. lol.

And i replaced the pilot bearing with a new one. Could that make that noise at that time? I have never seen that. Not saying it couldn't happen though.
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I will probably just man up and pull the trans again and more than likely replace the ISB.
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i am going through the same problem. got a brand new clutch kit with everything(pp, disc, to bearing, pilot bearing). everything was aligned correctly and installed correctly. we greased the bearings on their contact points too. and i get the same noise that you get.

im with you though, the weather is gettin shitty and i dont have the time to replace a ISB. if that is what it would be.
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Not having a big enough garage totally sucks. I mean i have access to a garage thats my neighbors. BUt they want to be able to use it if we get snow. Which we shouldn't anytime soon, but this is North Dakota and it could snow tonight. lol. I can pull the trans and leave the car outside, no problem there.

I have just never worked on a trans before, minus the one in my quad. lol. I really dont wanna fuck it up. BUt there is a great DIY on here, so that should help.
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This makes three trannys doing the same thing.

What clutch kits are everyone using?
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