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Old 08-27-2010, 02:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i've got a lsd dragger 6 puck sprung clutch kit on my boosted z6 motor and have about 2,000 miles on it now. the clutch has held fine up until about a week ago when it started to slip. when i put the clutch in i resurfaced the flywheel at my work on a lathe. i had to take alot of material off it to get it flat again it was very warped. i put a new rear main seal in with the clutch so i pretty sure there's not oil on the clutch anywhere. does anyone think it's possible that i could have taking to much material off the flywheel when resurfacing it? my buddy has brand new comp. clutch 6 puck unsprung disk i can have. do you think i could get a away with reusing the dragger pressure plate with the new comp. disk and a brand new flywheel that i can get off ebay for $68.
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i've got a lsd dragger 6 puck sprung clutch kit on my boosted z6 motor and have about 2,000 miles on it now. the clutch has held fine up until about a week ago when it started to slip. when i put the clutch in i resurfaced the flywheel at my work on a lathe. i had to take alot of material off it to get it flat again it was very warped. i put a new rear main seal in with the clutch so i pretty sure there's not oil on the clutch anywhere. does anyone think it's possible that i could have taking to much material off the flywheel when resurfacing it? my buddy has brand new comp. clutch 6 puck unsprung disk i can have. do you think i could get a away with reusing the dragger pressure plate with the new comp. disk and a brand new flywheel that i can get off ebay for $68.
Well considering we have NO clue what kind of power you are making it is hard to Judge what is happening. Drop the trans pull the clutch and get us pictures. If it is slipping now it's not going to fix itself. Also what type tranny? Hydro or Cable? I really wouldnt get a new flywheel off of ebay, If it comes down to it go scoop one out of the pick N pull and get it resurfaced.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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im prolly making around 225whp or so the clutch kit should be able to handle anything i have to throw at it. i didn't want to pull it down yet because it's my daily the car is still drivable by all means. what i really wanted to know was when i resurfaced the flywheel if i took to much material off it, that definitly would cause alot less bite right. if i start off with a 100% fresh flywheel that hasn't been resurfaced the thickness would be as thick as possible for the clutch to bite. also im wondering if i can reuse the pressure plate? it's a hydro tranny by the was in a 95 ej1 coupe z6 motor
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how did u resurface the flywheel on a lathe? did you maintain the correct spacing between the mounting surface of the flywheel (where the pressure plate bolts up) and the friction surface?

some how i doubt it happened.
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Like I said bro Pull the trans and shoot some pictures for us to look at.I know it's you daily driver but it needs to be fixed right? It dont take that long to pull a trans anyway.
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To answer your question. Yes, you can mix match clutches if you want to but I'm making a lot more power and my lsd dragger have yet slip on me once.
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how did u resurface the flywheel on a lathe? did you maintain the correct spacing between the mounting surface of the flywheel (where the pressure plate bolts up) and the friction surface?

some how i doubt it happened.

hey danz i understand exactly what your saying. ok basically when i resurfaced it i put it on the lathe and only resurfaced the friction part that the disk clamps to i did not resurface the part where the pressure plate bolts up to. which now makes perfect since to me why this thing is slipping now. are you not suppose to resurface flywheels on a lathe because now that i think about it the dowel pins would hit the lathes teeth eventually once it get's towards the outside of the flywheel. im assuming you have to do this a special way. but anyway's im pretty sure my problem is this flywheel i took off a shit ton of material on the friction surface and none on the pressure plate mounting surface makes perfect sense now. i guess my question is now do you think i ruined the pressure plate it might have some hot spots from slipping some right? do you think i might be able to reuse the pressure plate i already have new 6 puck unsprung disk so if i get the new flywheel you think the used pressure plate might be ok i hope so cuz im low on cash at the moment
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Start by removing those pins in the FW and mill the secondary surface. Then deglaze the PP surface with some sandpaper. GL!
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hey danz i understand exactly what your saying. ok basically when i resurfaced it i put it on the lathe and only resurfaced the friction part that the disk clamps to i did not resurface the part where the pressure plate bolts up to. which now makes perfect since to me why this thing is slipping now. are you not suppose to resurface flywheels on a lathe because now that i think about it the dowel pins would hit the lathes teeth eventually once it get's towards the outside of the flywheel. im assuming you have to do this a special way. but anyway's im pretty sure my problem is this flywheel i took off a shit ton of material on the friction surface and none on the pressure plate mounting surface makes perfect sense now. i guess my question is now do you think i ruined the pressure plate it might have some hot spots from slipping some right? do you think i might be able to reuse the pressure plate i already have new 6 puck unsprung disk so if i get the new flywheel you think the used pressure plate might be ok i hope so cuz im low on cash at the moment
first off because you didnt machine the surface that the pp bolts on to, you decreased the clamping pressure on the clutch disk alot. secondly if the flywheel was warped alot because of heat damage it still may not be completely flat heat treated spots are very very hard on flywheels and may not even out all the way. Might be best to start off with a new flywheel.
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first off because you didnt machine the surface that the pp bolts on to, you decreased the clamping pressure on the clutch disk alot. secondly if the flywheel was warped alot because of heat damage it still may not be completely flat heat treated spots are very very hard on flywheels and may not even out all the way. Might be best to start off with a new flywheel.

yeah why go through all that trouble to have to tear it apart and do it again... do it once, do it right! those things can be had for cheap on here man just ask around for one. i used to have like 5 of em at one point... they are long gone now but they are all over the place! just grab yourself a fresh stock one or a good lightweight one
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ok thanks guys im gonna buy a new oem replacment flywheel from advance auto tomorrow for $61 and sand the friction surface of pressure plate down a little ill let you guys know how everything is working tomorrow
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get a new flywheel off ebay. $68 aint too bad.

edit; or do that.

you should be able to just sand the friction surfaces on the clutch and the pressure plate and it will work fine and not slip.
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LSD has quality control issues I see these threads more and more and have seen plenty in the past where they started slipping for no real reason at all. Suck it up and buy another clutch sucks yes but thats the gamble with "good n cheap" aftermarket parts hell even the pricey crap breaks.

But I do have a few question for you did you break it in? and how much power are you making and what kind of driving do you do? This could be a user error with someone that likes to ride the clutch.......The world may never know
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i put a new flywheel on the other day and everything seems to be doing fine clutch is grabbing great now thanks for they the help guys
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