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Old 07-18-2014, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have started my rear disc brake conversion, but i decided to go a different route than most because after trying to source integra trailing arms, people either wanted way to much for them or the scrap yards were 5,000 miles away.

Today i only have the first step, which is receiving my brackets in the mail. I ordered them straight from their website here: https://scarebird.com/index.php?rout...tegory&path=67.

Here is a picture, they seem to be very sturdy and high quality they are zinc coated but i will probably use some heavy duty paint on them before install. I will update again when i start the install.

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I just got my Scarebird conversion going this week on my 00 EX. I ran into a few issues with clearances on my caliper brackets. I used re manufactured calipers from a 97 Integra and had to have the back side of the brackets shaved about 1mm so that the rotor would actually rotate. Just giving you a heads up. Also, if you are getting re manufactured calipers, you will need the mounting brackets and hardware for the parking brake and banjo bolts for the lines, as they do not come with any of that stuff. I ran into that headache and had to hit up salvage yards and order some parts from Acura.
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From what I recall, there are 2 different trailing arms that have different clearances. Maybe you got the wrong kit?
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You are correct sir. There are two different spindle types. They specify which brackets to use with the different spindle types. I suppose it is possible that the wrong kit was sent to me, but my kit looks exactly like the one shown in the pictures above. I'm assuming by the name that it is going on a 98 EX?
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I just got my Scarebird conversion going this week on my 00 EX. I ran into a few issues with clearances on my caliper brackets. I used re manufactured calipers from a 97 Integra and had to have the back side of the brackets shaved about 1mm so that the rotor would actually rotate. Just giving you a heads up. Also, if you are getting re manufactured calipers, you will need the mounting brackets and hardware for the parking brake and banjo bolts for the lines, as they do not come with any of that stuff. I ran into that headache and had to hit up salvage yards and order some parts from Acura.
Thanks for the heads up! but i plan on doing the "stage 2" rear conversion from the get go with the rsx caliper brackets and 02-03 civic si rotors. I and going to be getting a cut off wheel and angle grinder this weekend so i shouldnt have a problem if i need to shave anything down *fingers crossed* Also, i plan on getting the SS lines for the rear while im at it and they should come with the new banjo bolts. But what do you mean about the mounting brackets for the parking brake?
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You are correct sir. There are two different spindle types. They specify which brackets to use with the different spindle types. I suppose it is possible that the wrong kit was sent to me, but my kit looks exactly like the one shown in the pictures above. I'm assuming by the name that it is going on a 98 EX?
Yes, 98 ex. i believe that it is the "CIV" spindle?
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Thanks for the heads up! but i plan on doing the "stage 2" rear conversion from the get go with the rsx caliper brackets and 02-03 civic si rotors. I and going to be getting a cut off wheel and angle grinder this weekend so i shouldnt have a problem if i need to shave anything down *fingers crossed* Also, i plan on getting the SS lines for the rear while im at it and they should come with the new banjo bolts. But what do you mean about the mounting brackets for the parking brake?
There is a bracket on the caliper that fixes the parking brake cable in place. It is held onto the caliper by 2 bolts and has one retention clip for the cable. The part number is: 43247-SH3-931 and 43267-SH3-931 (#27 and #37 in the attached pic) Some remans come with them and some don't. I had to order mine from Acura since I couldn't find any locally.
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Arrr Matey!! Here be a thread-jackin', shameless plug!

I have a set of brackets for sale.. I misread their ebay listing once.. realized they don't make a bracket for EGs.. https://www.d-series.org/forums/sale/...-aem-more.html
i cant see that because i dont have enough posts to look at the classifieds yet. i sent you a PM.
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There is a bracket on the caliper that fixes the parking brake cable in place. It is held onto the caliper by 2 bolts and has one retention clip for the cable. The part number is: 43247-SH3-931 and 43267-SH3-931 (#27 and #37 in the attached pic) Some remans come with them and some don't. I had to order mine from Acura since I couldn't find any locally.
awesome, thanks ill make sure i try to get some remans with thsoe included.
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realized they don't make a bracket for EGs..
Unless something changed, they do make them. The problem is EG's use both "CIV" and "HON" style trailing arms depending on the year & model. The "CIV" scalloped spindle used on most EK's would be the first I'd see disappearing, since it needs welding while the "HON" style doesn't. From what I can see in your picture, yours is for most EF & some EG models ("HON" style).

https://scarebird.com/index.php?rout...product_id=116

Look at the last picture, "HON" style with the unwelded plate style:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Civic-...-/371035196207

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Update, i ended up finding some junkyard integra calipers, but i ended up just getting the whole trailing arm instead to make sure i got everything. Total for both with calipers was only 80 bucks(still saved money over buying remans).

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Make sure to change your bushings on those arms. But good find!
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Unless something changed, they do make them. The problem is EG's use both "CIV" and "HON" style trailing arms depending on the year & model. The "CIV" scalloped spindle used on most EK's would be the first I'd see disappearing, since it needs welding while the "HON" style doesn't. From what I can see in your picture, yours is for most EF & some EG models ("HON" style).

https://scarebird.com/index.php?rout...product_id=116

Look at the last picture, "HON" style with the unwelded plate style:
Honda Civic CRX SI Del Sol Integra Rear Disc Brake Conversion Brackets | eBay
I tried both of their brackets that they made at the time and neither of them were anywhere close to fitting.. really threw me for a loop because I thought for sure that they made them for my car.. I spent hours with these brackets, researching.. talking to them on the phone.. everything.. the conclusion was that they definitely did not fit.
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Damn that sucks, I was looking into trying them out too.
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Make sure to change your bushings on those arms. But good find!
if i use em, i will. for now i plan on using the scarebird brackets and just taking the integra calipers off of the arms. my girl wants a civic now too so maybe ill use the arms on her car when she gets it lol
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Im happy your posting this up. I was just searching all over earlier for info on using this kit paired with 02-03 si rear rotors.
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Im happy your posting this up. I was just searching all over earlier for info on using this kit paired with 02-03 si rear rotors.
as soon as tirerack gets on the ball and finally gets me my 02-03 si rear rotors im gonna do a write up on the install lol. but the ones i ordered were on backorder so it might be another week before i get em. if you have any questions when you do your just let me know.
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I used the same brackets and now my calipers rattle like crazy. I bought another set of rear calipers and that didn't work. I do have all anti rattle clips in for the pads and the slide bolts are torqued down. The calipers rattle and the caliper bracket is solid and doe not move. I have no clue why?
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I used the same brackets and now my calipers rattle like crazy. I bought another set of rear calipers and that didn't work. I do have all anti rattle clips in for the pads and the slide bolts are torqued down. The calipers rattle and the caliper bracket is solid and doe not move. I have no clue why?
(Car is a 00 dx hatch )
if this happens to me i will let you know so that way you know it's not just you lol.
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while I just went with integra rear caliper and rotors (9.4"), have had the scarebird plates on my 99 civic with no trouble for about 1.5 years now. there was some shaving the caliper to get the bracket the perfect fit, it was minor stuff however. Install was pretty smooth. I have not noticed any rattling so far. I did not do the junkyard thing, it was all re-manufactured or new stuff, for some piece of mind. just wanted to chime in! interested to hear how your ep2 rotors work out.
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