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Old 05-20-2015, 12:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I got a free press a while ago, went to use it the other day and the legs where the pins go through to hold the height adjustment for the press are nearly blown out.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/15n61lqe60...Press.PNG?dl=0
I ran it through solidworks, harbor freight is trying to kill you.
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It came with a 20 ton jack, but judging by the website I think it was originally a 12 ton press. either way be careful with shit from Harbor Freight.

It was free, but now I am going to be spending time and money on rebuilding the legs. Probably about $80, plus my time.
I'm just glad I saw it before it failed catastrophically.
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I have about the same one, Mine came from one the traveling tool shows, Speedway

Bought it about 13 years ago, I never used the manual 20 ton jack, I bought the air over hydraulic 12T used it about forever till the air chamber failed, then ran to HF n bought another 12T air over hydraulic about 3 years ago.

I use it on average about 3 times a week, mainly to press pistons off rods, or R&R FWD bearings, sometimes diff bearings and pinion bearings, and on occasion RWD bearings.

No signs of wallowing in the peg holes on mine.

I did over stress the frame one time and popped the lower brace loose from the weld, but 3 rods of 6013 fixed that.

I have always said you have to be nuts to do press work.... nothing is safe about it.
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mines been working great so has been the one in the place I work at and it looks to be 10 years old. Used alot
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Safety factor is .26 meaning 5 tons will make it fail.
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most guys I've run into say you need to reinforce the stand for saftey. they are known to fail. Once that is done, the press is much safer to use.
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My 12t has done well, but on stubborn bearings it will flex and scares me. As long as you don't try to push them to hard they work great.
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20t frame, We've buckled a 12t frame
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@ Crip - how did you setup that simulation; constraints, materials, etc. I have run a lot of linear and non-linear stress/strain simulations and I would not expect to see results like that? Just curiosity only.

I would have expected result that looked more like this...http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ilot/Part1.jpg
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Wait so which one is this, the 12t or 20t?

Are the frames the same?


Many many many people have used the 20T and I haven't heard of any issues or serious injuries related to a failure of the frame or jack itself. The arbor plates are another story...be careful with those..
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The result I showed was the FOS, not the stress.

My press was free, It looks like the 12T frame, but it has a 20T jack, and it is orange, I am assuming it is a Harbor Freight, 98.64% sure it is.

I will take pictures of the holes on it tonight. I am glad I noticed them before I really started bearing down on it.

I started the post just as a warning, to be careful when using cheap tools. They can still get the job done, just watch your ass.

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I started the post just as a warning, to be careful when using cheap tools. They can still get the job done, just watch your ass.

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exactly. paying attention and a little common sense goes a long way when using cheap tools.

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The 20t frame is bigger. My buddy has the 12t, used the hell out of it to press bushings in my car, he used it for his Chevy truck too.

I would get the bigger 20t if I was to spend the moneys.
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agreed. the 20t is what I want. still going to reinforce the frame anyways. I have a buddy who welds so I will make it twice as strong.
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Where do you guys get adapter rings for LCA bushings & such?
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Where do you guys get adapter rings for LCA bushings & such?
My buddy had a set from somewhere, they were multi colored, possibly HF.

We also used sockets where needed if I am being completely honest.

The press wasnt as helpful on my civic as the c-clamp style press for ball joints too.
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The result I showed was the FOS, not the stress.

My press was free, It looks like the 12T frame, but it has a 20T jack, and it is orange, I am assuming it is a Harbor Freight, 98.64% sure it is.

I will take pictures of the holes on it tonight. I am glad I noticed them before I really started bearing down on it.

I started the post just as a warning, to be careful when using cheap tools. They can still get the job done, just watch your ass.

Right way, the wrong way, and the Max Powers way.
FOS can be wrong (as well as stress) it the analysis is not setup correctly - that is why I asked you about your constraints, loads, materials and boundary conditions. If you look at the analysis that I did (1 ton on that surface) it shows the material has a yield strength more than 6X what is being developed...so something doesn't jive. And I used cheap ass steal as the material.
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