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Old 12-20-2011, 08:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats going on everyone, just want to give everyone a heads up before it happens to anyone else. before i start let me give everyone how i got into this company. http://www.bwrusa.com/Default.asp i went into a local performance shop looking for a coil-over system for my daily driver (RSX). they were the new "hot item" and the system was dirt cheap. the owner (a friend of mine) had a good rep and told me this kit was "solid". Reading up on coilover systems before i purchase any, it seemed they were all made from the same manufacture but branded differently. Knowing i was using this car for daily driven purposes, i was in! Opened the box and they look well made but boy i was in for a surprise!! I have installed countless of coil over system installation was a breeze! a year after installed well i would let the pictures speak for themselves....






yea scary huh? i don't know who i have to thank i was just pulling into my driveway that day but what would have happened on the highway? busy street doing 20 m.p.h?? i was a lucky man i was just going 1 m.p.h.. being furious at this point i called the company urgently, and they told me to send pictures. they said they will report back to me as soon as they receive them, i had to call numerous times to talk to the manager. the sales rep was a cool guy but that company is a fu*ckery! i expedited the coil over back to the company and they received it on November 21. its December 20th and ask me if they even called me or emailed to tell me the coilover is on its way? NO!!!! i just called them and they simply told me "Sir we don't have the part to fix it, when we receive it from (China??) we will send it back". All this time i have been renting a car and my bill has surpassed $800! by this point i don't want to do anything with this company. i don't want to spend any time or money in this B.S company and i hope their company fails! i wish i had the time and monies to sue there company to the fullest extent! i hope people learned from me and don't buy anything from this company..
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Dayum, that sucks balls.

They could've just given you a brand new set, or atleast one brand new coilover.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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they wouldn't budge, they wanted to sell me a whole new system. I WILL NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY EVER! your life can be in danger buying any of their products.. not worth it..
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pretty shitty. could weld it back up and it would probably be stronger
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WOW. Thanks for the heads up, sorry you had to figure this out the hard way.
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Oh wow a "coilover" that costs less than a pear if springs and shocks is of poor quality?
I never could have imagined that, I mean after all, its a COILOVER. Those are mad tyte jdm dorifto racecar stuff there.
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Ya, thanks for the head up on this, I was actually looking at some blackworks stuff yesterday and wondering "how do they hold up?"
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Ya, thanks for the head up on this, I was actually looking at some blackworks stuff yesterday and wondering "how do they hold up?"
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pretty shitty. could weld it back up and it would probably be stronger
i wouldn't trust even if they were a block of SS. i guess i will stay with my old school set up that has never failed. GC/Koni
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Im sorry but dont see how the coilovers did this. U got a before pick?
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Im sorry but dont see how the coilovers did this. U got a before pick?
Not understanding your question? but i think u mean i picked up the coil overs before they were released? the answer is no. they were in production months before i purchased it. there weren't many reviews on them before i purchased them, but the shop sold batches before i picked them up.MAny shops were selling them as well. they make a lot of products. just like megan,FF and those china based companies. why wouldn't you understand how this would happen? lol
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Im sorry but dont see how the coilovers did this. U got a before pick?
you arent understanding how the suspension works on an RSX.

the tie rod connects to the coilover itself. that piece broke right off of the coilover.
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Looks like the car was at full lock and hit a curb or pothole that caused extra stress on the steering.
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Maybe BWR hasn't perfected the McPherson style coilover for say the dc5/ep3 but I wouldn't let this detract from their other coilovers. Granted what you have pictured is a very unsafe condition to say the least lol. I know few people with bwr coilovers in their eg's ek's. All love em. My buddy swapped his ksports out for bwr just last week and he says he very much prefers the bwr coilover. None have had issues with quality. On the flip side like Full Tilt said these are on the cheap end of the spectrum. Buddy has a set of D2 coilovers in his ep3 and the strut plate/pillow ball mount went to shit and totally separated. I welded it back together and is holding strong. Both expensive and cheap shit can and will break.
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Maybe BWR hasn't perfected the McPherson style coilover for say the dc5/ep3 but I wouldn't let this detract from their other coilovers. Granted what you have pictured is a very unsafe condition to say the least lol. I know few people with bwr coilovers in their eg's ek's. All love em. My buddy swapped his ksports out for bwr just last week and he says he very much prefers the bwr coilover. None have had issues with quality. On the flip side like Full Tilt said these are on the cheap end of the spectrum. Buddy has a set of D2 coilovers in his ep3 and the strut plate/pillow ball mount went to shit and totally separated. I welded it back together and is holding strong. Both expensive and cheap shit can and will break.
i was very happy with the system. it performed well but something like this should never happen. a blown struct over a short period of time is very understandable. something like this or like your buddies is a very dangerous situation. good luck to all..
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Looks like the car was at full lock and hit a curb or pothole that caused extra stress on the steering.
wheel was turned maybe 180 degrees. never made it to my driveway. I've seen on RR doing 80 on a turns, cars flipped multiple times and worse cases and never encountered a struct snapping like this.
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i was very happy with the system. it performed well but something like this should never happen. a blown struct over a short period of time is very understandable. something like this or like your buddies is a very dangerous situation. good luck to all..
Your 100% right that is messed up and very unsafe. Steering arm is the last thong you want to fail on your particular coilover. But what can you do. Shit happens. Atleast you weren't doing 80mph on the interstate and no one was hurt.
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Oh wow a "coilover" that costs less than a pear if springs and shocks is of poor quality?
I never could have imagined that, I mean after all, its a COILOVER. Those are mad tyte jdm dorifto racecar stuff there.
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So how long has the coilovers been on? This is shitty that it happened to you, but we all live and learn..

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