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Old 11-13-2008, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay, so it was brought up in another thread that Fram filters are shitty. Working at Advance we made a display for the oil filters we sell(excluding OEM filters). Keep in mind that I work for Advance and they no longer carry the Wix line of filters. Thus, I have no way to put brand X vs a Wix filter. These are the most common sold filters through the Advance chane of stores.

Sorry for the shitty phone pics but they'll do. In order from left to right we have: K&N, Mobil 1 Extended life filter, Purelator PureOne, and Fram tough gaurd.


Apon cutting open the cases of the K&N and Mobile units you'll notice that the filtering materials look the same; This is because they are the same material in a differant case(and one costs more).

K&N:


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The mid-grade filter here is the Purelator PureOne filter. It shares similar construction to the Mobils and K&Ns with the tighter filter packing, metal end pieces and check valves.

Purelator:


Now it comes down to the Fram filter. Crap for packing, the end pieces look to be kindergarden construction paper hot glued to the filter media, there's no check valve and they typicaly have less oil capacity than most filters. Feast your eyes apon the most sold filter in the Advance chain of stores:

Fram Tough Guard(aka their preium filter under the racing filter)



I used to use Fram filters until I installed one on my old Chevy 3100 v6 and the filter media gave way blocking oil flow. Only reason I knew I had a restriction was the fact my oil light came on. Most of the time there after I used the Purelator filters until companies started doing specials on synthetic oils with Mobil 1 filters.

I'm sure some of you have seen setups like this. For those who haven't I hope it serves as an educational aid that fram = garbage.

Edit: Popped in Fisher Auto (Federated Auto) and they had some filters cut open.


Advance Auto Parts brand Filter. AKA Purelator filter but $2 cheaper and the PowerFlo filter(also from AAP) they keep at the commercial counter, you have to ask for it by name... Both of which are better quality than fram haha

And the requested WIX brand Filter: NAPA, Fisher/Federated, not sure who else has them but WIX is a popular brand
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Yea I agree with that. I worked in the pit of a quick lube for a couple years. Pennzoil filters are the same as a fram. I used to have to look into and inspect every filter. I have seen so many I take out of a box and look inside and its crushed with no external damage. There garbage.
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Good deal man. Thanks for the info. Im a wix man after reading an article about oil filters.
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ive used fram filters for about 6 years now with out a problem...

nothing wrong with them.. but again, i change my oil after every track event, and its also just a drag car.
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i like WIX and K&N but are you saying K&N is the same inside the can as the Mobile 1 and possibly the Purolater..?
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i like WIX and K&N but are you saying K&N is the same inside the can as the Mobile 1 and possibly the Purolater..?
K&N and the Mobil have the SAME internals, right down to the numbers stamped on the filter media. K&N has a slightly thicker filter shell + the fancy nut welded on it. Oh, and it cost like $5 more lol

For shits and giggles I'll stop in Wal Mart and get a Supertech filter and hack it open. I'll see if I can squeeze in to Napa and snag a wix filter too.
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I have always used Fram. Fram Extra Guard to be axact. I have a new one right here I wonder if I should cut it open lol.
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I've been using Fram Oil Filters for YEARS! I have been using that Sure Grip Oil Filter ever since it came out. Fram FTW!
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