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Old 07-20-2015, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The front facing turbo drain is very ridiculous. It has 1 inch or less of downward slope into my oil pan.

I was using a 90 off the bottom, but I am getting some think oil coming out of the turbo. I am almost positive it is from my drain.

My drain pan tap is about 1.5 inches from the top of the oil pan. I would love to move it lower, but everyone and their dog say not to. I don't know wtf to do.... Dyno day is less than two weeks, I would like to get this issue resolved if I can.
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I always thought as long as it was just above the filled level of oil you were good. so 1/4 way down should still be above the level of actual oil right?
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not sure.... I was going to drop my pan with the oil in it....

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Old 07-20-2015, 07:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lol I read that one already. Everyone has conflicting answers.

Couldn't you put the drain as low as the oil level is while the engine is running? I wish I just had a damn sump.
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I think that'd be fine, but as stated the oil would fill the drain up to the level of oil in the pan when the engine is turned off, so a bunch of hot oil in the drain when you park it
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I think that'd be fine
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From your description it really sounds fine. Is it burning oil?
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lets see a pic of your oil drain
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From your description it really sounds fine. Is it burning oil?
No smoke at all. So I guess no.

The only way I know to explain it with out taking a pic (which is what I will do in the morning) is when a 2 stroke gets all oily around the exhaust port and silencer (spooge). It looks exactly like that. Really dark and thick.


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lets see a pic of your oil drain
I actually threw the old piece of shit away, I was going to use copper again like the red car so it does not sag. But I will take a pic of where the turbo drain is and where the oil pan drain is (in the morn).
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copper may actually help.
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Lol I read that one already. Everyone has conflicting answers.

Couldn't you put the drain as low as the oil level is while the engine is running? I wish I just had a damn sump.
Yes, after first start the oil level in the pan drops. So as long as your higher then that you should be fine.
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Here is how I currently set it up this morning. Obviously I would need to take out probably 1/2 inch of copper and just use rubber to couple the copper to the oil pan. This looks much better than my last setup with just a rubber hose with no copper.

You can see the black oily spooge that is coming from the turbo on the bottom of the exhaust pipe.



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Probably just oil seeping through the rubber line.
A lot of hose isnt rated for oil and it will practically sweat through the hose.
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Id wrap it in to keep the heat from that downpipe off of it. since copper absorbs heat.
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Probably just oil seeping through the rubber line.
A lot of hose isnt rated for oil and it will practically sweat through the hose.
I'm not sure what you mean. The rubber line is (was) below the exhaust. There are no oil lines above the exhaust except for the feed, which doesn't leak.

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Id wrap it in to keep the heat from that downpipe off of it. since copper absorbs heat.
Yeah that is a good idea.

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I don't think you do, but I wouldn't know how to make it lower. its long as hell, so the slope isn't very steep. Id say an inch lower on the pan, but I don't know how it would effect anything
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Wow man you have almost more problems than me!

Restrictor?

You dont want it to surge forward during braking.

Sharp bends will slow gravity flow.

Flow sideways?

Should think about these things more next time you pick out a manifold/routing


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For real low setups you can do something like this



with one of these



I still think your drain should be fine. Its not ideal but I doubt your car is going to spend a lot of time idling anyway. At high rpm the oil pressure is going to keep the oil moving in the right direction.
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This is what I ended up with.... More pics in my build thread... I will sump it somehow later.

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