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Old 11-09-2014, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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yep - think I am being a noob again.

My setup is D15B VTEC with a D16y9 crank pulley.

I have searched this with no real answer.
People seem to think D16 and D15 pulleys are they same? (Or so thats what I though as well)

The white mark will not light up with the gun sight on the cam belt cover if the piston 1 is at TDC (its a few mm or teeth out)

So setting timing with a timing light is a bit of a pain.

Is there a difference between the D15 and D16 pulleys?

Before anyone tells me to fit the D15 one....
https://www.d-series.org/forums/gener...en-pulley.html

I wll get this sorted no problem. Just looking for feedback.
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You looking for fly wheel or harmonic/crank pulley?

I think what you need to look at is if the pulley has a damper on it or not. Check this thread.

https://www.d-series.org/forums/engin...ly-vs-d16.html
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You looking for fly wheel or harmonic/crank pulley?

I think what you need to look at is if the pulley has a damper on it or not. Check this thread.

https://www.d-series.org/forums/engin...ly-vs-d16.html
Not sure how this helps my timing. My d16 has a damper yes. The d15b also had a damper but that broke.

I am talking about pison/crank and pully relashen to the cam cover.
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Is there a difference between the D15 and D16 pulleys?

Sorry I guess at the pulley, assuming sucks, not saying what pulley of the two is worse.

People seem to think D16 and D15 fly wheels are they same?

88/89 one type of clutch and flywheel 90-00 another type, stay within that year range and fully interchangeable, per Dan, found it by searching.

And you never asked about timing, more remarked, so I answered correctly per your statement / questions, if there is a language barrier that answers that, if you just dont get it, not sure how else to help.
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Is there a difference between the D15 and D16 pulleys?

Sorry I guess at the pulley, assuming sucks, not saying what pulley of the two is worse.

People seem to think D16 and D15 fly wheels are they same?

88/89 one type of clutch and flywheel 90-00 another type, stay within that year range and fully interchangeable, per Dan, found it by searching.

And you never asked about timing, more remarked, so I answered correctly per your statement / questions, if there is a language barrier that answers that, if you just dont get it, not sure how else to help.


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I will post a pic!

Edited first post.
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Have you tried comparing both pullies side by side?
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What year d15b?

obd2 cam gears are different by 4.5* vs obd1. And the timing marks are different on the cranks per obd2 vs obd1 as well except for the TDC mark on the crank pulley should be the same.
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Have you tried comparing both pullies side by side?
I tryed. Its a bit tricky when then pulley is in 2 pieces. :P

Eyeballing tdc with the key. Hehe
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What year d15b?

obd2 cam gears are different by 4.5* vs obd1. And the timing marks are different on the cranks per obd2 vs obd1 as well except for the TDC mark on the crank pulley should be the same.
I am not sure. How do I tell? We never got this engine in any honda here its by import only.

To simplify my question are d16 and d15 tdc marks the same?

Think I might pull a ek d15 pully off a friends car to answer all rice.
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Is the dipstick in the middle of the exhaust manifold at the front of the car or coming out of the oil pump at the front of the engine. 92-95 is obd1 and 96-00 is obd2 over here.
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Is the dipstick in the middle of the exhaust manifold at the front of the car or coming out of the oil pump at the front of the engine. 92-95 is obd1 and 96-00 is obd2 over here.
ooh yes ok! thanks for solving that.

obd1 then

Then I am using an obd2 pulley on an obd1 engine. I think this is my issue.
I will fiddle today and post a pic of what I am referring to.

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