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Old 08-30-2007, 10:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hey just wondering if the volkswagon turbos would be a good choice for a vitara build. i was offered a K04 for 75 and i was wondering what it would max out at psi and hp range.
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IMO wait to find a decent T3. You would have to have a custom manifold made because of the funky flange.
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^ X2. Its comparable to a IHIRBH5 (probe/mx6 turbo) and you can get those mani flanges easily and they are just as cheap at the junk heap.
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You'll definitely have a unique project, but unique projects aren't easy projects. I don't think I've ever heard of a VW boosted civic...
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I guess you could make your own flange too if ya got the stuff to do it.
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would it really be too hard? the guy who is doing my exhaust system has a full welding setup. what would all be involved and if i got that VW turbo could i hit 400hp? thats my top goal on my vitara build
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no vw turbo will hit 400hp, they all have smallish compressors and to them, a 25lb compressor is an upgrade.

(T3's flow about 35lbs, in 45trim)
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maybe t3/t4?
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According to some sites they are good for 225hp. Whether that's crank or wheel I don't know.

Don't forget the custom downpipe too.

Like I said, IMO, I would wait. I paid $80 a piece shipped for two perfectly good T3 .42 / .48 saab turbo's neither of which had ZERO play. Both had the T3 flange of course and both had the 5 bolt DP flange. It just makes it easier in the long run if you want to upgrade your turbo without having to buy a new manifold and DP.
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According to some sites they are good for 225hp. Whether that's crank or wheel I don't know.
most likely crank, makes sense given a 25lb compressor wheel
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Like I said, IMO, I would wait. I paid $80 a piece shipped for two perfectly good T3 .42 / .48 saab turbo's neither of which had ZERO play. Both had the T3 flange of course and both had the 5 bolt DP flange. It just makes it easier in the long run if you want to upgrade your turbo without having to buy a new manifold and DP.
what if I wanted to use the internal gate and 5-bolt to 3 bolt outlet?

know where to get a 3 bolt dp?
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most likely crank, makes sense given a 25lb compressor wheel


what if I wanted to use the internal gate and 5-bolt to 3 bolt outlet?

know where to get a 3 bolt dp?
I'm sure you can get one from autoworks on this site. Or bmcrace.com may have the flange. There are plenty of ways to get the flanges you need for a particular setup. Or you could get a 5 bolt DP flange with a hole for the internal wastegate already cut out and have it dump open or back into the DP as you see fit.
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I'm sure you can get one from autoworks on this site. Or bmcrace.com may have the flange. There are plenty of ways to get the flanges you need for a particular setup. Or you could get a 5 bolt DP flange with a hole for the internal wastegate already cut out and have it dump open or back into the DP as you see fit.
see the thing is, the wastegate flapper is integral to the 5-3bolt piece (I believe garrett calls it the "swingvalve")
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Get the KO4 for me and ill put it on my VW for 80$
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lemme guess: your VW is currently broken?
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lemme guess: your VW is currently broken?

Not even close pal. 110K of trouble free miles

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see the thing is, the wastegate flapper is integral to the 5-3bolt piece (I believe garrett calls it the "swingvalve")

Ah that's right. I forgot about that.
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you might as well use a hairdryer for your turbo... wait for a T3/T4 and sell the K04 to honda4vw
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k04 turbos range from the size of a bagel to around t-25 or small t3 turbo size.a smaller turbo running on edge at higher boost than its efficiency island is going to blow alot of hot air.
for a built motor this wouldn't really be taking advantage of your build.
get something that will make more cfm with cooler charging at the same power levels.
the smallest id get would be a super 60 for a vitara build, or a t3/t4 .48 .60 .
mine is a bit bigger wheel trim and absolutely love it.
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welll i am definately going to consider that..now i just need to find a engine
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