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Old 08-23-2007, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys i have an ef with a 4speed in it ,and a d15b.....im going to do the vitara setup...but i was wondering if u should get a 5 speed for the turbo....people ive talked to give me different answers......can u guys shed some light on this subject for me thanks
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vitara's in a d15,what rods are you gonna use???
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i'd upgrade to a 5 speed the 4 speed EF trannys have long gear ratios and would not be good on quarter mile times, thats if your aim is to get better 1/4 mile times.
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vitara's in a d15,what rods are you gonna use???
i dont know yet im still searching bro....i thought u could use the z6 eagle rods in it?i dont know if this i true or not thought.....and this car is just to be a budget drag car....so if a 5 speed will help at the track then thats mostlikely what im going to do
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imo just go with that 5 speed no doubt and you cant use those rods....
for beefy rods its going to be expensive to stick with a d15..
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imo just go with that 5 speed no doubt and you cant use those rods....
for beefy rods its going to be expensive to stick with a d15..


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that is a d15b and hes useing tt ....and on tuner toys,those rods say for a d15b/d16......am i reading this wrong?
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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For a drag setup I would definately swap to the 5 speed.
I built a kit for a customer on his DOHC ZC (which was mated to the OE 4 speed). I later swapped it out to a 5 speed and it made a world of difference. The 4 speed gears are just so long, too long actually for any type of drag setup.
There is a thread on HT about the SOHC tranny gearing where it has been show to be beneficial to swap either the 3rd or 4th gear into the 5 speed tranny. ( I really can't recall exactly what it is, but I'll look it up). I've always considered it because I have a spare 4 and 5 speed tranny here.
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D15B VTEC uses different (D16) rods
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
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D15B VTEC uses different (D16) rods
well what kinda rods does it use?i can use these right?http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/product/R3-5394-AH
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that 4sp is GARBAGE! gears are looooooooooooong

get an SI trans
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that 4sp is GARBAGE! gears are looooooooooooong

get an SI trans
thanks alot for all the help guys .....but im so confused about this rod thing....does anyone out there know if the tt rods will work,or of anything i can used(again its a d15b,not a b2 or anything)thanks again
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Old 08-24-2007, 07:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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is it a jdm d15b vtec? NOT the vtec-e? if so, they share the same rods as any d series 1.6, so yes TT rods will work.

now you just need to source pistons that will...
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IMO if your spending on vitara, rods, etc then you should really go for the 5 speed to get the most out of your setup. For some who just want a basic turbo build then make use with what you got and get the turbo setup running first and later upgrade comes needed.
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vitaras and tt rods are a good set up. dont forget all the other things that make that combo work.

ps.5 speed

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vitaras and tt rods are a good set up. dont forget all the other things that make that combo work.

ps.5 speed
thanks for all the info guys.....the only reason i was asking about the 4 speed is because,i thought that it would be spooling long then a 5 speed....im just going to throw it out there but this is the coolest forum ive been on so far...
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I thought the d15 had a smaller rod big end than the d16? Like a 3mm difference?
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I thought the d15 had a smaller rod big end than the d16? Like a 3mm difference?
not the jdm d15b
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