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Old 03-09-2012, 06:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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sup guise? well, this is my second holset build, and this time I want to keep the a/c intact. That's one of the reasons I sold my 11 second coupe (no a/c) and my new born kid would sweat. couldn't have that. any way, i'm starting over now. got a good running eg with a z6, with my hx35 in the trunk. i'm going to make some brackets to support the turbo where the oem muffler sits. the biggest pain i see is running the charge pipes.

what spool times can I expect? any ideas? guesses? random comments?
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oh, forgot to mention i'm using the stock wastegate @ 26psi, 3" downpipe straight out the rear bumper driver side. i'll start a progress thread when i do it.
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i'm going to make some brackets to support the turbo where the oem muffler sits. the biggest pain i see is running the charge pipes.

what spool times can I expect? any ideas? guesses? random comments?
Am I reading this right?

Gives a new meaning to turbo muffler. Please elaborate more on this setup.
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i dont know much about them but yes alot of local f body cars do this and run very well.. i think ive heard about maybe having to have a little pump to get the oil to and from the turbo, other than that alot of pipes.. i thnk it would be best to have a very good flowing header bisi or somthing with 2.5 piping to the turbo, seems like you would want the air to get there faster but these are just my thought
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Why not just do a sinktrap top mount and keep the turbo in the bay, and keep AC?

I could certainly see it hurting spool. Are you using a singe scroll or twin scroll Holeslut? I'd certainly look into using a good header. Maybe bounce some ideas off Beaver.
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Yes you need a pump to return the oil to the pan. You may also consider a sump under the turbo with a breather and the pump drawing from that.

But yah, remote mount is pretty "meh".

Are you planning to make enough power to justify that turbo?
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as soon as i saw this i was so stoked on trying it nut then i realized i would probably scrape my turbo off..
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i once read abt a guy wanting to put a turbo at the collector of a header, that sounds a lot less laggy. love to see the look on that babys face when you hit vtec and then full boost if it doesnt fall off.

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Dont waste money on a tail turbo. the extra lines, oil pump, and tubing are NOT cheaper then simply getting a damn AC compatable manifold.


All you need is the turbo moved over an inch or so, and a manifold to boot. maybe have a small clearance issue with stock radiator fan, hence why many people go slim fan when turbo'ing
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the main idea is keeping A/C. i've made a sinktrap before, and the hx35 is just too big to clear the lines without mutating them.. I don't want mutated lines on my car.

@FullTilt yeah, I make good use of the hx35 I've ran the h1c, hy35 and the hx35 on a build motor.. hx35 prevails hands down.

26psi on a built z6 should be nice regardless of placement as long as the pressure gets there on time.
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hmm. expect VERY VERY late spool. like 7,000rpm you might see 10psi
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There ARE turbos other than the Holset, you know.

Just, like, one or two, but, yeah.
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build a sidewinder that puts the turbo where the air filter usually sits...
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