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Old 04-22-2011, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Dyno Day - Stock Minime and 8lbs - Puzzled

It's been a while since I've been on here but moved onto a stock setup, just got dyno'd and it's one of the highest I've ever seen for my setup...wondering if I'm crazy...Tuner insists it's safe and wb is reading a solid 11.5 a/f...

Minime a6/z6 - stock everything except ARP's

HF/14b turbo pushing it's stock 8psi

450's and open 2.5 DP

Tuned using Crome Gold ~ 4hrs

*** About 6 months ago I got a tune on the same dyno and put down 208whp with a cat and 2" exhaust.***

Only thing I've changed since then was finally fix some bad grounds, and fixed a few minor (pinholes) leaks in the FMIC, and of course made it open DP which changed the A/F, so that's why I retuned.
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Something is off. Id expect peak torque to be down around 4k with that turbo. How is it spooling?
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Like it always has...a bit sooner than it did before.

No exhaust leaks that I found, did quite a bit to make sure of that.
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Wowwww..8lbs pushing 250, Man! I don't know what to say.

What fuel are you using?
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Pump 91 octane...

Only thing I can think of is maybe his dyno is reading too high...or I'm on the brink of a big bang (which he assures me I'm very safe).

Never seen this high of a number with my setup...I was expecting MAYBE 220whp
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pretty crazy man is it the same dyno?
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take it to the track....its the only way to really tell

dyno numbers are a tuning tool not the end all to a set-up....see what it traps, that should give you a better idea of the actual power being made
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yes take it to the track
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Fixed bad grounding
fixed a tiny boost leak
made the exhaust breathe

this can easily translate into 30+whp

my dsm buddy has seen the 14b's push 260whp before and that is of course on a low compression 2 liter
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Fixed bad grounding
fixed a tiny boost leak
made the exhaust breathe

this can easily translate into 30+whp

my dsm buddy has seen the 14b's push 260whp before and that is of course on a low compression 2 liter
Not at 8 psi they are not.



Something is fishy...
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^ I agree.

Taking it to the track soon and we'll know for sure.

The car definitely screams and FEELS faster, but it could be the placebo effect...
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Just looking at the graph, that seems like an awfully late spool for a 14b running an open DP to me...

Are you running a boost controller of any kind?

Boost gauge?
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No boost controller, stock internal WG and stock actuator...turbo was rebuilt and has 0 play and the wg is solid.

Got a boost gauge and it was reading a solid 8psi during entire tune, no spikes of any kind that I or the tuner caught.
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his dyno reads high, even a t3/t4 with a GOOD manifold wont make that much power at 8psi...

most GSRs with a t3/t4 make around the same power at that boost level.

either the boost was alot higher, or his dyno is high. i vote dyno only because i dont think the HF manifold will easily support 250+whp........

keep the dyno for bragging rights, but take it to the track, should be 12s easy.
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My guess is the dyno is reading high because i have never heard of 8 pounds on that small of turbo making 250 whp on stock engine.
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boost leak and no exhaust will definitely net you more
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at 8psi is what's fishy

don't worry about it, it's safely tuned. Go have fun!
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its a hub dyno, so ask how much load he tuned it on...


if its less than 35ish %, its gonna read high.
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