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Old 03-22-2011, 07:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...otor%20Oil.pdf

sticky? might be good info for peoples questions if not already availible.
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how is oil going to damage a steel ring? it wont.
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s300 is worth the money over crome. crome is terrible and i have a feeling people over the pond have more brains than to cheap out on management like most over on this side.

especially since most other platforms require complete stand alones!
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I wonder if the guy that went through 4 ebay turbo's in a several year span and he didn't even push them past 25lbs had the failures because he ran a low zinc& phosphorous oil?

I'm not saying he didn't run a high zinc oil. I'm just wondering. Many factors could be involved.
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that info is from a local shop in the DFW, TX area that does nothing but sell and rebuilt turbos. no installs, no dynos... pure turbo maintanence
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especially since most other platforms require complete stand alones!
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Repped for for good turbo lube info. I red through this a few months ago and was just think about it this week. It's good to have this info available for guys who think oil is just oil.
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thank you sir. i do think it should be a sticky
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its a very good read.
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So it's saying to use high Zinc/Phos Oils,

Rotella would be a good alternative for the budget minded guy, as you can pick it up at places like Shucks and Walmart.

But for break in, is standard dyno juice best to aid in ring seal?
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A non synthetic.
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A non synthetic.


This doesn't answer my question.

You can have synthetic or non synthetic with or without raised Zinc/Phos.

Say Rotella 10w-30 which is a nonsynthetic with Zinc, or something like Castrol GTX Which is a standard auto oil.
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So it's saying to use high Zinc/Phos Oils,

Rotella would be a good alternative for the budget minded guy, as you can pick it up at places like Shucks and Walmart.

But for break in, is standard dyno juice best to aid in ring seal?
Rotella is a great oil period. But what exactly is your question? He is saying that you want to break in an engine with a non-synthetic oil.
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Rotella 10w 30 is a non synthetic with extra zinc/phos.
Castrol GTX is non synthetic without extra zinc/phos.
Mobil 1 Race is synthetic with extra zinc/phos.
Mobil 1 synthetic is a synthetic without extra zinc/phos.

What don't you get?

Im asking if you want elevated Zinc during break in.

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Old 09-01-2012, 01:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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From Torco break in oil description


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Torco TBO contains a high percentage of “Zinc” anti-wear chemistry for proper valve train and new cam break-in protection.
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Thats for cam break in.

This might not be similar to bottom end/ring break in..
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thanks for the link.....very informative read!
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That was a good read, I remember reading it in a thread about what oil to use and how Mobil1 has fallen out of favor by many.
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Ha, when you have flat tappet cams you still want an elevated level of zinc and phosphorus to protect your flat tappet cam during brake in and after. It won't affect the rings sealing.
Generally speaking, synthetic oils, high mileage oils, and putting a bunch of lucas in the oil makes the oil too slippery for proper ring sealing abilities.

Shell Rotella still works pretty well for our flat tappet cams and break in.
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