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Old 03-28-2017, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Currently redid my bearing clearance after having to rebuy rod bolts from ARP and at 50 ft lb of torque with my scat ARP 2000 3/8 x 1.600 my clearances came out to .001

I read that this is on the tight side especially for a turbo motor that I'm shooting for close to 400hp as possible

Would you recommend running this clearance ? If so what oil should I use?
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.001 what.

.0010"? .0015"? .0018"?
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.0010 on the rod bearings, two look like they are barely under the .0010 mark so I'd say .0012-3 on two but should I worry about spinning a bearing ? What oil viscosity and brand should I use ??
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Buy an outside micrometer and dial bore gauge.

If you are building your own stuff you need to know to the .0001 decimal place. Plastigage is not good enough.

I personally wouldn't run less than .0013 on the stock d16 journal size of 1.771"/45mm

The only reason for super tight clearances (to my knowledge) is to reduce windage/oil mist in the crankcase as it comes out from under the bearings.

One of my favorite proverbs about bearing clearance is if you run too loose of a clearance, only you will know. Run too tight and everyone will know.
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Well I got the king race STD bearings, would you recommend me trying an undersized bearing ?
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Did you get the crank micropolished?
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It seems you have been having many issues trying to get his engine built. I would just throw in the towel and take it to a professional.
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Did you get the crank micropolished?
A machine shop is going to be able to take .0005" or less off a crank journal pretty easily.

You need to know exactly how much though. Micrometer/bore gauge are your only option realistically unless you have the machine shop do all of it for you
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It seems you have been having many issues trying to get his engine built. I would just throw in the towel and take it to a professional.
What kind of shitty advice is this?

Dude is coming here for help. Nobody knows everything on day one. Get off your 43 post high horse and actually contribute something.
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Buy an outside micrometer and dial bore gauge.

If you are building your own stuff you need to know to the .0001 decimal place. Plastigage is not good enough.

I personally wouldn't run less than .0013 on the stock d16 journal size of 1.771"/45mm

The only reason for super tight clearances (to my knowledge) is to reduce windage/oil mist in the crankcase as it comes out from under the bearings.

One of my favorite proverbs about bearing clearance is if you run too loose of a clearance, only you will know. Run too tight and everyone will know.
Lolol, I like that proverb.
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50ftlbs seems high.

I would have the rods big ends rebored or at least checked.
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Did you get this engine put together? If you are thinking about getting undersized KING bearings I would give SpeedFactory a call. All they use is KING bearings and should be able to help you out.
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lol I actually laughed at the throw in the towel comment, this is my second motor I'm just trying to get better as I go.

As for the bearings I ended up buying some ACL STDX that gives me the .001 extra clearance and I came out with .0015-.002 across all my rods so I'm happy
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Motor is complete and in, just doing little things here and there, got Honda MTF in and went with some SAE 30 for the initial start up, just waiting for a new basemap so I can start it with the speed factory four bar map sensor and grams 255 pump, my previous compression was in the 9s with JE pistons eagle rods now I got the vitara pistons stock length rods



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why Honda mtf? do you not read through this site?
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Why not Honda MTF? And no apparently not
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go read around and figure out "why not"



hell, even the damn fsm tells you what to use.
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Quit worrying about shit that dont matter, does it spin? Run itttt lol

use moto oil
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I'm using arp 2000 rod bolts 7/16 and the specs for that say 75lbs
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I'm using arp 2000 rod bolts 7/16 and the specs for that say 75lbs
In your 572" big block chevrolet?

I'm not going to say there's never been a d-series rod with 7/16 bolts but I don't know of any that exist
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