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Old 04-21-2008, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so in the last 2 months i've had 3 subs and 3 amps all shit out on me. i just spent the money on a new alpine type s 12 and it lasted me less than 10 minutes. i had sound then it locked up, then the amp got really hot afterward. my amp is now wasted i'm sure. getting a replacement sub tomorrow, need a new amp any body got any good recommendations for an amp to run a 12", 4ohm, dual voice coil, 300 watt rms, sub in a sealed box. i don't know anything about most of the newer stuff on the market.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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any opinions on this one?
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...MRPM500&tp=115
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The real numbers you need to worry about.

# 250 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (400 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms)

# fuse rating: 30A x 2 = 60A draw

To be honest that all sounds quite weak with a lot of drain on the alternator
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don't buy another amp until you figure out what is wrong with your setup or user first.

Pics of your wiring to begin with.
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don't buy another amp until you figure out what is wrong with your setup or user first.

Pics of your wiring to begin with.
True, having that much bad EQ that quick sounds like other issues
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i've done quite a few setups in the last 10 years. i'm not worried about my wiring at all. this is one of the smaller apps i've done though. mostly it's all been because i've been using ancient second hand hardware of unknown origin. i've decided to actually just buy all new now and be done with it. oh and with the motor swap comes a higher current alternator, so that's only a temporary concern.
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Is your box within spec for the sub? Does the amp or your radio have a "bass boost" setting and your using it? Are you having to turn up all the bass on the radio to make it louder? It sounds to me like you need a new box or your trying to over drive the sub with distortion. Distortion is the #1 killer of stereo equip.
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the mrp-m500 is a nice amp, we just hooked one up tonight on a single mtx 5500 12 and it beat the shit out of the sub. definitely small but mighty. It would be plenty for that sub. We also ran one on a type r ten in a crx and I was pretty impressed. we had it in a pro box super bass box.
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Just to let you know i think crutchfield is WAY over priced.

try this site out. they had the amp you showed up above for 149

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=19251
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Just to let you know i think crutchfield is WAY over priced.

try this site out. they had the amp you showed up above for 149

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=19251
it may be cheaper there, but you cant get any warranty from that place unless they give warranty through their company. Most companies which alpine being one of them dont authorize internet sales and wont warranty anything sold on most internet site. Crutchfield is the only online site that I know of that is an authorized internet dealer.
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i was just using the crutchfield link for the pic and the specs. i picked up the amp and warrantied the sub. put it all in and it beats like hel,l and is one of the cleanest sounding setups i've had yet.
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I'll vouch for alpine products I've been running a full alpine setup in my car for a little over a year now and no problems at all. Sounds really nice too.
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Can someone explain how a higher output alternator helps a sound system and does it affect other components of the vehicle?
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Can someone explain how a higher output alternator helps a sound system and does it affect other components of the vehicle?
it's not gonna make perfect sense if you don't understand electricity. everything in your car draws a certain current. amplifiers generally draw much more current than most automotive systems or accessories, at higher volumes. a larger alternator serves to feed that extra current to the system so when, for example, your subs hit a really loud low note they don't drain your amp of power and get quiet due to a lack of flow coming in compared to what's going out. there's more to it but that's the basic idea. it's similar to having your kitchen faucet on half way vs. having it on all the way, and another tip if you run bigger power and ground wires it's like getting a bigger faucet to allow more flow.
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Goodluck with the system setup. Hope you find the issue.
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