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Old 10-30-2014, 10:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I have ran into an issue with installing the wiring portion of my nitrous kit
It is an NX proton wet kit.
The directions are contradicting themselves. Says " 1 blue and 1 black wire go to positive (+12v), green wire on the relay, and 1 blue and 1 black wire go to negative (ground)"
Theirs only one blue wire so would it be negative or constant positve.
I hooked the rest of the wires up like the diagram below shows but get no power thru the master switch (switch doesnt light up. I checked the abandoned blue wire n it has constant power. I tried calling NX a few times but it just rings n rings. Ima keep calling but id like to get this done before my bday on Saturday

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To upload pics you need to use photobucket and upload the pic to that then copy and paste the link here.

Without pics of what your talking about its hard to tell you how it needs to be wire.
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Is this the diagram you have for the nx kit?
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from that diagram it looks like the solenoid can go either way.
Blue to power Black to ground
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Black to power and Blue to ground.
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A solenoid can be either polarity. All it needs is 12v and ground. It doesnt matter which is which.
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Yes that is the diagram!
The blue wire im talking about is not in the diagram. It is a blue wire come from the relay..
Everything else is wired exactly as the diagram minus the blue wire coming from the relay since it doesnt show. It has constant power going thru it.
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Yes that is the diagram!
The blue wire im talking about is not in the diagram. It is a blue wire come from the relay..
Everything else is wired exactly as the diagram minus the blue wire coming from the relay since it doesnt show. It has constant power going thru it.
If that blue wire is in the middle of the relay plug it's not needed. Are you using the pressure safty switch?

You have 4 wires on the solenoid,2 blue and 2 black. One blue and one black wire get tired together and go to the green from relay. The other two get tired together and go to a good ground.
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RELAY
Green wire is ran to my positive solenoid (not getting any power car on or off at relay)
White wire is grounded behind the ashtray coin thing (ground is good)
Black wire is connected to battery (constant power)
Blue wire has constant power and is not connected to any thing
Red wire is connected to activation switch (has no power car on or off)

MASTER SWITCH
has a switched 12v on top/gold connector (has power w acc mode on)
Middle connector is wired to the other side of the activation switch along side the red wire from the relay (no power car on or off)
Bottom connector is grounded same place as the white relay wire

Activation switch
Red from relay going in one end, other connector wired to middle of master switch
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If that blue wire is in the middle of the relay plug it's not needed. Are you using the pressure safty switch?

Ok. I will tape it up n get it out the way. No I will not b using a pressure safety switch so I grounded it like it says.

You have 4 wires on the solenoid,2 blue and 2 black. One blue and one black wire get tired together and go to the green from relay. The other two get tired together and go to a good ground.
I only have 2 wires on the solenoid. A red and a black. I grounded the black on the fuel filter mount (solenoid is in wiper cowl) n connected the red solenoid wire to the greenrelay wire but green is not getting power.
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The toggle switch had 12 volts going to it to the spot marked 12volts?

The middle spot of the toggle switch goes to the throttle switch. The other spot on the throttle switch goes to the red wire of the relay.

With the tiggle switch on and having 12 volts hit the throttle switch, you should hear a click.

The solenoids will not work with out the toggle switch being on and having 12 volts and the throttle switch being triggered.

The toggle switch could be bad. You can bypass it for testing by putting a wire from the the throttle switch to battery then press down the throttle switch and you should hear a click. The system needs both switches for it to work along with power and ground.
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RELAY
Green wire is ran to my positive solenoid (not getting any power car on or off at relay)
White wire is grounded behind the ashtray coin thing (ground is good)
Black wire is connected to battery (constant power)
Blue wire has constant power and is not connected to any thing
Red wire is connected to activation switch (has no power car on or off)

MASTER SWITCH
has a switched 12v on top/gold connector (has power w acc mode on)
Middle connector is wired to the other side of the activation switch along side the red wire from the relay (no power car on or off)
Bottom connector is grounded same place as the white relay wire

Activation switch
Red from relay going in one end, other connector wired to middle of master switch

The blue wire in the middle of the relay is not needed.
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I tested to see if it was the master switch n sure enough when I hooked up the button directly to the solenoid n battery it clicked! Off to get a new master switch! Thanks bien mucho!
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RELAY
Green wire is ran to my positive solenoid (not getting any power car on or off at relay)
White wire is grounded behind the ashtray coin thing (ground is good)
Black wire is connected to battery (constant power)
Blue wire has constant power and is not connected to any thing
Red wire is connected to activation switch (has no power car on or off)

MASTER SWITCH
has a switched 12v on top/gold connector (has power w acc mode on)
Middle connector is wired to the other side of the activation switch along side the red wire from the relay (no power car on or off)
Bottom connector is grounded same place as the white relay wire

Activation switch
Red from relay going in one end, other connector wired to middle of master switch
know you fix it but just to recap.
The Black wire is power into the relay
Blue is your normally Close Power out
Green is your normally Open power out. It goes live when you apply power and ground to the white/red wire. When you do this the blue wire is no longer output anything.

Id use an RPM switch just to make sure it only sprays in the upper rpms. I know your using a WOT switch but you still cant hit the button until the rpms are up
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Woukd you be using hondata or neptune?

If so. You can use an output to control the solenoids when your parameters are met.

Just one of the finer qualities of having a decent tuning program. That and making sure you AFR are correct when your spraying.
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