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Old 05-19-2005, 06:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I own a 03 civic LX and in the past year have made some mods. I was planning on swapping the motor out for a K20 series but then I saw the price and said....uh no! So I went the easier route and bought a D17A2 head to @ least make it VTEC. Recieved the head off a wreck and was going to install it right away. But then I figured why not replace all the inernals w/ some titanium springs, retainers, valves etc. and throw in a port and polish job. I found someone to port and polish for $300. That was the easy part. Now I'm on the hunt for the parts. I found one guy on ebay selling springs and such and he told me that the springs for D16 series fit into a D17 series. Anyone hear of that one? I have some knowledge of D series motors but I dont know how similar they are w/ interchangable parts. i.e. A D15 having the same vavle size as a D16. But further looking for parts I have found close to nothing in my search except for a full head package from MMR.com. which offers parts from Bullfrog. Any info on this one or are these parts out there and I'm just blind?
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KMS sells some stuff for d17.... Dont expect any gains out of d17 though.. exspecially all motor..
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I didn't know the D17 was so crappy
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You should do pretty well with a built up head. High compression pistons and a cam should make some good power. Also, yank the stock intake manifold, it is the source of the crappiness. A D16Y8 intake manifold will bolt right up, or any aftermarket D-series I/M for that matter.
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I didn't know that a D16Y8 intake mainifold fits. The throttle body on a D17 is located on top of the intake manifold. A D16, if I'm not mistaken, is located on the side. You sure that works?
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You should do pretty well with a built up head. High compression pistons and a cam should make some good power. Also, yank the stock intake manifold, it is the source of the crappiness. A D16Y8 intake manifold will bolt right up, or any aftermarket D-series I/M for that matter.
Way wrong info!! None of the older D series shit will bolt right up but the clutch and flywheels! If you dont know dont guess because your info can cost alot of people money on here and they can l8er find out that you were wrong and realized they just spent all that money on shit that dont even work..
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I didn't know the D17 was so crappy
Ya man they are all VTEC=E motors w/ one solenoid... There is really no power to be made out of them unless you boost it, which then they dont last long @ all because of returnless fuel system..
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Oh well. I guess I'll save money for a swap. I haven't really modified the engine except for headers which bypassed the cat. Now I have check engine light starring @ me all the time. Anybody know about these simulators that are supposed 2 send a fake reading 2 the ECU? I saw some on ebay for about $30. How less powerful is the VTEC-E?

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ok...nevermind. VTEC-E is better than no vtec I guess. Honda rates EX @ 127 HP while LX/DX is rated @ 117. Xtra 10hp....I'll take it.
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Way wrong info!! None of the older D series shit will bolt right up but the clutch and flywheels! If you dont know dont guess because your info can cost alot of people money on here and they can l8er find out that you were wrong and realized they just spent all that money on shit that dont even work..
What the hell are you talking about? I've personally seen D17's with Y8 manifolds, it fits great, just port two bolt holes. Easy.

Even on this site.... https://d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14453

Way to cost someone a perfectly fantastic idea...
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also, I have seen people get about 220 -250 HP of course boosting, but you can rebuild and boost for the same cost of the K20, not including transmission and actually installing the new engine. I am in the process of doing a complete rebuild now myself. I will look into the Y8 I/M
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