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Old 04-12-2007, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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just bought a DOHC ZC cable tranny, with possible bad ISB, i have a SI diff and gears, so im kinda interested in the SI/ZC hybrid tranny.

i plan on boosting, are they good for boost?
whats the difficulty rating on doing the hybrid myself?(i am mechanicly inclined btw)
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for boost, I'd think they would be too close.

I know I didn't like mine with 65 shot of nitrous.
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so i cant run a whole SI diff with ZC rign gear...
i want to run a LSD, but the stock SI gears are short.

i dont know what i want to do.
im trying to figure out teh best tranny combo to run in my crx
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with boost either ZC or Si.

ZC/Si hybrid will be fun, but the fun will be over too quickly.
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yeha i dont want it to end quick.

i need to figure out what im goign to do.
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so what can i do with this zc tranny i just bought, for $130 shipped?
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You could do Si 1-2, ZC 3-4 and Si 5th with the ZC 3.889 FD, couldn't you? Then the fun wouldn't be over as quickly.
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You could do Si 1-2, ZC 3-4 and Si 5th with the ZC 3.889 FD, couldn't you? Then the fun wouldn't be over as quickly.
You'd have a ZC tranny with a longer 5th gear, which would be nice IMHO.

The difference between Si/DX 1.894 2nd and ZC 1.944 second is not enough to be measurable.
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The difference between Si/DX 1.894 2nd and ZC 1.944 second is not enough to be measurable.
Eh, true.

So my idea wasn't half bad, eh? Hehe...:thehump:
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ill thinka bout it.
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You could do Si 1-2, ZC 3-4 and Si 5th with the ZC 3.889 FD, couldn't you? Then the fun wouldn't be over as quickly.
w/195/50/R15 tires Si 1-2, ZC 3-4, SI 5th and final.
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Gear   Mph per 1000 RPM   Mph @7000 RPM   Mph @7200 RPM
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  1         4.88                34              35
  2         8.38                59              60
  3        11.79                83              85
  4        15.37               108             111
  5        20.59               144             148

 Mph             RPM (in Gears)
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           1        2        3        4        5        
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   5     1024      596      424      325      243
  10     2047     1193      848      651      486
  15     3071     1789     1272      976      728
  20     4094     2386     1696     1301      971
  25     5118     2982     2120     1627     1214
  30     6141     3579     2543     1952     1457
  35     7165     4175     2967     2277     1700
  40              4772     3391     2603     1943
  45              5368     3815     2928     2185
  50              5965     4239     3253     2428
  55              6561     4663     3579     2671
  60              7158     5087     3904     2914
  65                       5511     4229     3157
  70                       5935     4555     3399
  75                       6359     4880     3642
  80                       6783     5205     3885
  85                                5531     4128
  90                                5856     4371
  95                                6181     4614
 100                                6507     4856
 105                                6832     5099
 110                                7157     5342
 115                                         5585
 120                                         5828
 125                                         6070
 130                                         6313
 135                                         6556
 140                                         6799
 145                                         7042

Gear Change  RPM drop (change @7000)  RPM drop (change @7200)
-------------------------------------------------------------
  1 -> 2         -2921 (to 4079)          -3004 (to 4196)
  2 -> 3         -2025 (to 4975)          -2083 (to 5117)
  3 -> 4         -1628 (to 5372)          -1674 (to 5526)
  4 -> 5         -1775 (to 5225)          -1826 (to 5374)
stright SI
Code:
Gear   Mph per 1000 RPM   Mph @7000 RPM   Mph @7200 RPM
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  1         4.88                34              35
  2         8.38                59              60
  3        12.61                88              91
  4        16.94               119             122
  5        20.59               144             148

 Mph             RPM (in Gears)
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           1        2        3        4        5        
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   5     1024      596      397      295      243
  10     2047     1193      793      590      486
  15     3071     1789     1190      885      728
  20     4094     2386     1586     1180      971
  25     5118     2982     1983     1476     1214
  30     6141     3579     2379     1771     1457
  35     7165     4175     2776     2066     1700
  40              4772     3172     2361     1943
  45              5368     3569     2656     2185
  50              5965     3965     2951     2428
  55              6561     4362     3246     2671
  60              7158     4758     3541     2914
  65                       5155     3836     3157
  70                       5551     4131     3399
  75                       5948     4427     3642
  80                       6344     4722     3885
  85                       6741     5017     4128
  90                       7137     5312     4371
  95                                5607     4614
 100                                5902     4856
 105                                6197     5099
 110                                6492     5342
 115                                6787     5585
 120                                7082     5828
 125                                         6070
 130                                         6313
 135                                         6556
 140                                         6799
 145                                         7042

Gear Change  RPM drop (change @7000)  RPM drop (change @7200)
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  1 -> 2         -2921 (to 4079)          -3004 (to 4196)
  2 -> 3         -2347 (to 4653)          -2414 (to 4786)
  3 -> 4         -1790 (to 5210)          -1841 (to 5359)
  4 -> 5         -1240 (to 5760)          -1276 (to 5924)
Stright ZC
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Gear   Mph per 1000 RPM   Mph @7000 RPM   Mph @7200 RPM
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  1         5.34                37              38
  2         8.93                62              64
  3        12.89                90              93
  4        16.80               118             121
  5        19.77               138             142

 Mph             RPM (in Gears)
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           1        2        3        4        5        
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   5      936      560      388      298      253
  10     1873     1120      776      595      506
  15     2809     1680     1163      893      759
  20     3746     2240     1551     1190     1012
  25     4682     2800     1939     1488     1265
  30     5618     3361     2327     1786     1518
  35     6555     3921     2715     2083     1771
  40              4481     3102     2381     2024
  45              5041     3490     2679     2277
  50              5601     3878     2976     2530
  55              6161     4266     3274     2783
  60              6721     4654     3571     3036
  65                       5041     3869     3289
  70                       5429     4167     3542
  75                       5817     4464     3794
  80                       6205     4762     4047
  85                       6593     5060     4300
  90                       6980     5357     4553
  95                                5655     4806
 100                                5952     5059
 105                                6250     5312
 110                                6548     5565
 115                                6845     5818
 120                                7143     6071
 125                                         6324
 130                                         6577
 135                                         6830
 140                                         7083

Gear Change  RPM drop (change @7000)  RPM drop (change @7200)
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  1 -> 2         -2813 (to 4187)          -2893 (to 4307)
  2 -> 3         -2153 (to 4847)          -2215 (to 4985)
  3 -> 4         -1628 (to 5372)          -1674 (to 5526)
  4 -> 5         -1050 (to 5950)          -1080 (to 6120)
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I have one for all the ZC/Si tranny grorus, Can I use a ZC diff in a Si tranny to take a vange of the equal lenth axels. My block is an ZC VTEC and is already drilled for the halfshaft.
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you mean for the disadvantage of equal length axles.

Myself I'd install a OBX and be done.

But if your REALLY set on using a ZC diff, I have one with the rare golden diff pin. It was the replacement for the weak diff pins in the 88-81 trannys.

You will also need to use larger axle seals, I believe I have those to go with it.



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Is it just the diff or do you have the half shaft aswell? I was just realy wanting to know if the ZC diff would fit in the Si case. Also is the USDM 86-87 and 88-89 teg diff the same or simaler to the ZC diff....?
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The ZC diff use the halfshafts, the axle tube opening is bigger.

Other than that they are same.

The early diffs are not the same.
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so it arived today, by DHL in a box lol.

but i wiggled the input shaft, no movement. but the seal might be bad.

it has a stamp on it also, "Nippon", i didnt kow they rebuild trannys also

the guy said no gear problems, but it was leaking out of the pass side axle seal.
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