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Old 03-28-2010, 04:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1998 Civic EX, manual transmission. Stock. 138,3xx miles.

I've started to notice my transmission scrapes or grinds on it's way into third gear. It only happens in third (that I can tell) and it grinds more when shifting at higher RPMs, even with the clutch pedal fully depressed.

The transmission has the correct amount of fluid, 1.9 quarts. I just did a fluid change.

Hoping someone can shed some light on this, maybe Mista Bones.
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what do you use? oem trans fluid?

if so try syncromesh it should help
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I just put in Torco RTF, I ordered Torco MTF but they got mixed up and sent me RTF. Aqua told me it was fine to put in.
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3/4 slider is likely on the way out.
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yeah, bent fork or syncro dying, mine does it too.
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I don't want to cover up a problem, lol.

Aqua what kind of rebuild would you recommend for me? Car is daily driven, see's the drag strip every weekend and will be turbo'd in the near future. I'm looking for 200-250 whp.
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Is it okay to drive the car hard with it like that? I'm heading to the track Saturday, lol.
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youll find out if you break something 3-4 slider is on its way out like aqua said, mine has been grinding for a while now in 3rd and 4th if i shift slow it doesnt grind, if i slam it in gear it doesnt grind
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youll find out if you break something 3-4 slider is on its way out like aqua said, mine has been grinding for a while now in 3rd and 4th if i shift slow it doesnt grind, if i slam it in gear it doesnt grind
Lol. We'll see. so it can be driven but I might as well have it rebuilt?
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double clutch it when your about to put it in third gear. should help.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah, bent fork or syncro dying, mine does it too.
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double clutch it when your about to put it in third gear. should help.
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The 2-3 and 3-4 crunch is typical of 96-00 Civic trannys due to the redesign of the 3-4 slider and shifter fork.

Run a 92-95 slider with modified 96-00 3-4 fork and problem is solved.
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I wouldn't drive it hard or the MS 3rd gear will need to be replaced (comes with the sleeve assembly anyways). Either replace the 3/4 sleeve assembly with a 92-95 EX/SI set or source a used 92-95 3/4 hub/slider.

The sleeve assembly includes the hub, slider, 3/4 synchros, and MS 3rd gear.
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