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98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 05:24 PM

I am about to trade my ek for a DA with a b20 block and b16 head. (sorry guys i'm going dual)

I just want to know from experience, how high would i be able to take the rpms?

sick1camcivic · 03-13-2010, 05:42 PM

the sky is the limit.

slowhatch91 · 03-13-2010, 06:31 PM

lol sooo vague. there is a lot to determine how high you can (and should) rev lol

LoSt GhoSt · 03-13-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sick1camcivic

the sky is the limit.

lol Some of these responses lately are hella funny.

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:05 PM

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lol sooo vague. there is a lot to determine how high you can (and should) rev lol

bone stock b20 bone stock b16A
ys1 b16A tranny

sick1camcivic · 03-13-2010, 08:10 PM

ive heard 8k on b20's, but im by no means a dohc guy. and i know there are a few diff types of b20's. which do you have?

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:13 PM

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ive heard 8k on b20's, but im by no means a dohc guy. and i know there are a few diff types of b20's. which do you have?

sorry b20b block b16A head

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:14 PM

redline on b20b is 6300 rpm
redline on b16A is 8100 rpm

sick1camcivic · 03-13-2010, 08:17 PM

yeah from what i just looked up 8 sounds about the round about. some are saying 9000rpms, but id be more concerned with the b16a dropping a valve, they are known for it.

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:19 PM

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yeah from what i just looked up 8 sounds about the round about. some are saying 9000rpms, but id be more concerned with the b16a dropping a valve, they are known for it.

it has dropped before on the previous owner..
he had it rebuilt 1500 miles ago. some people have told me to not go past 6500-7000 rpms unless the block is built..

jamato0331 · 03-13-2010, 08:22 PM

well an ls redlines at about 7k stock, and the b20 is the same stroke, so probably right around there would be safe.

D2ZBOY · 03-13-2010, 08:23 PM

Yeah don't rev iv that high u gonna break something on it.

sick1camcivic · 03-13-2010, 08:25 PM

well on honda tech alot of SHOP OWNERS who have sent out plenty of stock b20v setups say 8000rpms-9000rpms. id deff take it to 8k rpms atleast. my friend has a b20v tuned by RLZ im pretty sure he takes his to 8200rpms. stock b20 bottom. not sure which b20.

Pata · 03-13-2010, 08:25 PM

do you have pix of this DA?

Hope it's worth it

why?

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98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:27 PM

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well on honda tech alot of SHOP OWNERS who have sent out plenty of stock b20v setups say 8000rpms-9000rpms. id deff take it to 8k rpms atleast. my friend has a b20v tuned by RLZ im pretty sure he takes his to 8200rpms. stock b20 bottom. not sure which b20.

i'm thinking i'm gonna tune it before i do any redlining lol
the guy drove it with me in the car and he took it up to 8k and it has some balls lol

sick1camcivic · 03-13-2010, 08:28 PM

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We tuned a guys b20/vtec and it was the exact same setup you have. Stock bottom end with stock b16 head. The cams quit making power at 7300 rpms. So reving to the b16's factory redline of 8200 would be the smartest thing to do. Cams might help you make more power on the topend, however this engine combination does not have very high compression. So gsr or type r cams are the most I would go with, without a jump in compression. Hope this helps.
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it seems to make plenty of power ALL the way up to 9000rpm's. the shop that got the bottom and top end for him said he CAN rev up that high no problem. they even have his engine under warranty and they sold him the ecu that lets him rev up that high. the shop said "yes you start getting into those higher rpm's you are risking grenading the motor but i wouldnt worry to much about it until 9500rpm's and once you replace LMA's with type R's LMA's and upgrade the valve train you can go up to 10,000rpm's. you are still in risk of grenading the engine but no matter what you do reving that high your risking grenading the engine" but like i said they have his engine under warranty KNOWING he can rev to 9,200 RPM's.

But I do see alot of people saying replace ARP rod bolts and you are golden to w/e the head can handle.

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:29 PM

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do you have pix of this DA?

Hope it's worth it

why?

Your Hatch is Clean Son!

i know, i know, but i just want something different.. ill get pics soon. its not the cleanest shell but the engine sure is worth it.

i also got offered an eg with a d15b with brand new auto x's!! but i think i just wanna go dual

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but i think i just wanna go dual

well then do a swap on your Hatch. You'll find yourself having that feeling of a new Whip anyways.

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:32 PM

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We tuned a guys b20/vtec and it was the exact same setup you have. Stock bottom end with stock b16 head. The cams quit making power at 7300 rpms. So reving to the b16's factory redline of 8200 would be the smartest thing to do. Cams might help you make more power on the topend, however this engine combination does not have very high compression. So gsr or type r cams are the most I would go with, without a jump in compression. Hope this helps.
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it seems to make plenty of power ALL the way up to 9000rpm's. the shop that got the bottom and top end for him said he CAN rev up that high no problem. they even have his engine under warranty and they sold him the ecu that lets him rev up that high. the shop said "yes you start getting into those higher rpm's you are risking grenading the motor but i wouldnt worry to much about it until 9500rpm's and once you replace LMA's with type R's LMA's and upgrade the valve train you can go up to 10,000rpm's. you are still in risk of grenading the engine but no matter what you do reving that high your risking grenading the engine" but like i said they have his engine under warranty KNOWING he can rev to 9,200 RPM's.

i know this is a very noob question to ask, but.... what are lma's i've tried to look for the definition but can't find one..

98cxhatch · 03-13-2010, 08:33 PM

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well then do a swap on your Hatch. You'll find yourself having that feeling of a new Whip anyways.

no dinero for a swap and i'm horrible at saving money

i've had this hatch for 2 years now so idk.. i may back out last minute

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sick1camcivic All powerful D-series member iTrader: (5) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: L-burg,Va Posts: 4,717 Rep Power: 10	ive heard 8k on b20's, but im by no means a dohc guy. and i know there are a few diff types of b20's. which do you have? __________________ RIP <3Jayda<3 2 yr old Boxer 8-14-2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmIu...layer_embedded teamdohc.org 95 civic coupe ex. Vitara-hbeam Z6 New Project Built Turbo F2B F22A nonvtec into civic 93 Accord SE 4dr black9stock) Owner @ Grab-a-Nekbrace ENT like us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/grabanekbrace

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98cxhatch D-series lover iTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 208 Rep Power: 5 View My Photo Gallery	redline on b20b is 6300 rpm redline on b16A is 8100 rpm __________________ Miss my d-series, but LOVE my J http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...0/theater2.jpg

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sick1camcivic All powerful D-series member iTrader: (5) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: L-burg,Va Posts: 4,717 Rep Power: 10	yeah from what i just looked up 8 sounds about the round about. some are saying 9000rpms, but id be more concerned with the b16a dropping a valve, they are known for it. __________________ RIP <3Jayda<3 2 yr old Boxer 8-14-2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmIu...layer_embedded teamdohc.org 95 civic coupe ex. Vitara-hbeam Z6 New Project Built Turbo F2B F22A nonvtec into civic 93 Accord SE 4dr black9stock) Owner @ Grab-a-Nekbrace ENT like us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/grabanekbrace

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slowhatch91 D-Series cadet iTrader: (6) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: indianapolis Posts: 316 Rep Power: 6	lol sooo vague. there is a lot to determine how high you can (and should) rev lol

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sick1camcivic All powerful D-series member iTrader: (5) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: L-burg,Va Posts: 4,717 Rep Power: 10	well on honda tech alot of SHOP OWNERS who have sent out plenty of stock b20v setups say 8000rpms-9000rpms. id deff take it to 8k rpms atleast. my friend has a b20v tuned by RLZ im pretty sure he takes his to 8200rpms. stock b20 bottom. not sure which b20. __________________ RIP <3Jayda<3 2 yr old Boxer 8-14-2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmIu...layer_embedded teamdohc.org 95 civic coupe ex. Vitara-hbeam Z6 New Project Built Turbo F2B F22A nonvtec into civic 93 Accord SE 4dr black9stock) Owner @ Grab-a-Nekbrace ENT like us on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/grabanekbrace

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