Why is my car so slow?!

[cxserver]

exacly, with DD turbo car u wouldnt need to rev to the moon(proper sizeing turbos to engine size). wouldt a turbo d16a6 for example, make the same tq out of boost as a d16a6 with the same money spent on bolt ons? How much tq are you realy gaining with bolt ons with a d16a6 again for example.
http://www.importtuner.com/powerpage..._si/index.html

[SOHCinWA]

Originally Posted by D17TURBO

exacly, with DD turbo car u wouldnt need to rev to the moon(proper sizeing turbos to engine size). wouldt a turbo d16a6 for example, make the same tq out of boost as a d16a6 with the same money spent on bolt ons? How much tq are you realy gaining with bolt ons with a d16a6 again for example.
http://www.importtuner.com/powerpage..._si/index.html

Very true... But with that turbo that is setup for the street, hoe good will it be at the local track on the weekend?? It will max out alot sooner... The N/A setup will still be making power up top........ lol Like I said we can arues over this forever... Small turbo = no lag= no top end.... bigger turbo= lots of lag= no bottom end....

[T-MacK]

All my buddys that have turbo set-ups on there civic's run bigger turbos for 1/4 racing,and do good. But on the street a lot of bottom end lag.

[cxserver]

just seems like your promoting low tq NA d series is faster than turbo d series with the same amount of money put in both, for track and street.
ok last post but reminds me of this old vid. Turbo d vs a bunch of NA b series and ect. It did well in both street and track. And my local hero link 2

link1
http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...45010918c1.htm

local DD hero
http://www.civicevolutions.com/forum...ST&f=1&t=9180&

[MCR00EX]

i think im goin to do a nice set up of spray. how do you all feel about the pros and cons of buidling a d for nitrous?

[cxserver]

Id do it. But i dont know how pricey refilling the bottle would be.Pros would be an all around stronger engine compared to sraying an old worn out one.

[SOHCinWA]

If you are going to do spray.... Make sure you have stainless valves....

[MCR00EX]

i have a buddy that can get the bottle refilled for cheap for me.

[SOHCinWA]

Originally Posted by D17TURBO

id do it. But i dont know how pricey refilling the bottle would be.

NOS is normally $4.00-$5.00 a pound to fill... A 10 pound bottle will last a long time though with a single fogger... Pros and cons with everything..lol

[MCR00EX]

i want to do a crower cam, springs and retainers, and also valves.

how reliable would a built nitrous motor be? more so then boost or no

[SOHCinWA]

Originally Posted by MCR00EX

i want to do a crower cam, springs and retainers, and also valves.

how reliable would a built nitrous motor be? more so then boost or no

Just do your reasearch... See just how much R&D they put into their cams... Instead of your buddys having it... I can guarrantee that a Bisi cam will out perform any N/A / NOS cam from anyone else.. I promise you that...

[dfanatic]

ive blown 2 motors on nitrous. i had to learn the hard way. oh well young and dumb. get the head work done. ss valves etc.. depending on the amount of spray, pistons and rings may be a good idea as well.

[MCR00EX]

i searched up bisi cams they didnt seem to have too much info on their website
unless im blind or didnt find the correct site

[MCR00EX]

i wanted to do a 50 or a 75 shot with full msd igniton and a s200 ecu with the timing retard

[SOHCinWA]

NOS reccomends that you use no more than 50% of the vehicles hp rating.... So say the car makes 100hp... You should run 50hp all day long and be safe.. But people have run more.. Thats just their reccomendation

[cxserver]

this guy has a long version of his build of a z6 with prices he paid.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...8400196891.htm

[dfanatic]

i agree any more than that and u are asking for it!

[MCR00EX]

whos askin for what?

[SOHCinWA]

Originally Posted by MCR00EX

i searched up bisi cams they didnt seem to have too much info on their website
unless im blind or didnt find the correct site

This isnt enough on his cams?? If not he can design one for your exact setup ... Let me know

D-series, non-vtec:

Springs: $155

Springs + Titanium retainers: $335

Level 1, regrind: $225; 0.385/0.407 (229/229)

Level 2, regrind: $225; 0.431/0.485 (248/230)

Level 3, hardweld: $565; 0.472/0.449 (268/252)

Level X, hardweld: $715; 0.542/0.481 (272/270)



D-Series, VTEC:

Springs: $175

Springs + Titanium retainers: $365

Level 1, regrind: $347; 0.390/0.410 (230/230)

Level 2, regrind: $347; 0.430/0.440 (248/247)

Level X, billet/hardweld: call

[dfanatic]

Originally Posted by MCR00EX

whos askin for what?

your asking for your motor to take a shit if u run too much nitrous on an improper build. thats all i was saying.