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amazing job on that vc, also I“ll hit you up about that catch can setup.

this build looks clean and very orginal, props for you .
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Very nice!!! I love how everything looks.. Clean and well organized..
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looks nice as shit man!! only thing i see is the vent tube coming from the valve cover goes to the bottom of the catch can... shouldnt it go to the top....

great job on the clean looking and high horsepower parts!
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looks nice as shit man!! only thing i see is the vent tube coming from the valve cover goes to the bottom of the catch can... shouldnt it go to the top....

great job on the clean looking and high horsepower parts!
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Tuna brought up the same thing on another forum, so I'll just copy it here:

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"I have to ask, why you did the catch can that way?

If the motor pushes out enough oil to start filling the can in the event of a serious motor issue the can cant vent once the oil level rises to the level of the AN fitting, after that it just turns into a bubbler and pushes the oil out with the air.

Wouldn't it of been better to put the fitting as high as possible in the can so in the event the motor pushes out a ton of oil, the oil can fall out of suspension and fill the can while the gas escapes?

The only reason I am saying something is I have seen a similar style can setup be very ineffective during a motor issue."


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There are several reasons, and you bring up a good point for discussion.

Your concern with the design was discussed before we did it. My thoughts on the matter:

A) Our vent channel on top of the VC draws air from above the factory baffling (which is very well designed) that is already in place.

Since it's located on the top of the VC behind the factory baffling, there will be zero oil pushed into it due to puddling/splashing/acceleration/etc as seen with VC vents that are located on the front or rear of the VC.

So.....that eliminates one of the normal "issues" with typical venting schemes. This design will carry less oil into the can than usual IMO.

B) We tried several different routing options for the A.N. fittings and line, and this routing provided enough flex in the line to be able to remove the line easily, and looked the best as well.

C) "If the motor pushes out enough oil to start filling the can in the event of a serious motor issue the can cant vent once the oil level rises to the level of the AN fitting, after that it just turns into a bubbler and pushes the oil out with the air." - Big Tuna

In that event, the whole VC would have to fill with oil to the top to start pushing into the can. That'll never happen. And if there was that serious of a motor issue, you've got 2 quarts catch can capacity for a reason. Besides, you'd notice something wrong at that point and shut it down.

If the catch can did fill up enough with oil to start filling up the A.N. line in normal use, it'd still push or "bubble" the pressurized blowby into the can. At high speeds/loads where there is a lot of blowby, this would be much like a steady stream of air and I feel the can would still be every bit as functional.

There is a fitting under the can that can be accessed in the wheel well to drain it easily, and an internal baffle in the can to knock oil in the airstream out of suspension as well.

So...we will see how it works out. If it does need some reworking we will do so, but I think it'll be fine as is. We will see!
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thats a bad ass turbo this car will scream! that turbo is the only t3 in the 8's.
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i didnt want to quote your whole responce, but thanks for clearing up why you did it that way.. i was thinking the same thing tuna brought up, but in shorter terms haha.. im sure it will work out well... especially with the baffling still in place under the VC..
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Update:

I really wanted to get it all tuned out today but didn't have time, we are just too swamped this week.

So, we just threw it on the dyno and got a few pulls in off the WG before we left today just to see how she's gonna do.

428whp/287tq @ 19psi (gate).


We didn't have time to do any in-depth tuning. The cam gear is still at 2* advanced from the N/A tune, it needs to be retarded to carry high rpm power better, so I feel there's still some more in it yet.

But I'm very happy with the numbers at such low boost, and the turbo spooled better than I expected.

It made 17psi by 6100rpm, so the powerband is plenty wide, and it'll go 10's at this power level already!

Just got a vid of the pull up:

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bad ass.

i am getting my pass port in order then ill give you a shout to book the dyno time. its going to be me and one buddy both with D's, his being sleeved.
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Great #s.
This thread makes it hard for me to fight the temptation of putting a big turbo back on my car...I think I'm about to lose that battle
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nice numbers guys, 19psi..sweet.
What are you taking it to for revs?
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All I can say is wow that is some serious power for 19psi. I cant wait to see what happens when you get a full tuning session in.
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thats a hole butt load of horsepower.. would like to see a higher tq number myself. i am sure things will be looking much better once you have a full tune session. can't wait for the final results .
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Awesome job for just a "lets see what it do" tune. Cant wait to see what it does on a full session. So what cam did you decide to go with? I know you said Bisi was going to hook you up, but with which one. Its crazy you say you can do 10s with these #s which I do believe, a buddy of mine is scramblin to run 10s on a 500hp b16 setup.
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nice numbers guys, 19psi..sweet.
What are you taking it to for revs?
9K on those pulls, will be going to ~9500rpm.

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All I can say is wow that is some serious power for 19psi. I cant wait to see what happens when you get a full tuning session in.
Yeah, it needs cam gear adjustments made for sure, it'll carry power at high rpm better than it is now. Not to mention that I still have this custom grind Bisimoto cam to put in!

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thats a hole butt load of horsepower.. would like to see a higher tq number myself. i am sure things will be looking much better once you have a full tune session. can't wait for the final results .
The WG opened at 16psi, and has a slight creep to 19psi at redline. So the torque peak is not at 19psi, more like 17psi.

If it were 19psi steady, torque would've been 300tq range. So it's actually alot of torque for boost level, about 30 ft/lbs more than last years setup at the same boost level.

I overlaid it with my 471whp chart from last year, and torque is already within 25 ft/lbs at high rpm, at only 19psi vs 29psi last year!

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I can“t wait to see the numbers on a full dyno session with the Bisi cam on it.

very good results for 19psi.
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