Bisimoto cams stock ecu question.. - D-series.org

built zc · 07-22-2010, 03:54 PM

I just finish building my dohc zc motor with stage 1.2 bisimoto turbo cams....I Need to brake the motor in so can I use my stock ecu with them cams??? I was going to brake the motor in before I get it tune ??

mindless · 07-22-2010, 03:57 PM

Use your stock cams to break the engine in.

built zc · 07-22-2010, 05:21 PM

I sent my stock cams in to bisimoto to get regrind so I don't really have money to get use stock ones..so can i use my stock ecu and my cams to brake my motor in??? Please let me kno I wanna brake my motor in?

Full_Tilt · 07-22-2010, 05:23 PM

No, its going to run like dog shit, and its going to be lean at WOT in the upper RPM range. Youre going to need to go WOT and rev it out a lil to break it in properly.

built zc · 07-22-2010, 05:48 PM

May I ask to what wot is?

Full_Tilt · 07-22-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by built zc

May I ask to what wot is?

oh sorry,

WOT- Wide Open Throttle

Basically, what I would do is have a street tuner there to do intial tuning as you break in.
Do you first start up with a basemap on it and with the tuner all setup. Once started have your tuner immediatly get to work getting the idle sorta decent, then quickly go out and start breaking it in while he tunes. The initial break in is very fast, so you could probably go ahead and change the oil after the break in and continue tuning.
It would only take a few hours and you would have a healthy broken in engine with a pretty decent street tune on it (if the tuner is any good)

built zc · 07-22-2010, 07:43 PM

i thought break in is about 500miles????and i have a pr4 ecu thats tune on crome on 5psi can i use that????????????

cticknor666 · 07-22-2010, 07:53 PM

people still break in their motors? lol

I do all the breaking in, on the dyno while tuning.

Wes · 07-22-2010, 07:57 PM

I don't understand how you can brake in the motor. I sit in the driver's seat while braking.

Full_Tilt · 07-22-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes

I don't understand how you can brake in the motor. I sit in the driver's seat while braking.

never heard of engine braking?
lulz
you can also brake with your exhaust, so Ive heard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by built zc

i thought break in is about 500miles????and i have a pr4 ecu thats tune on crome on 5psi can i use that????????????

more like 5 miles...

and I suppose you "could"
but you should really do what I said, or tow it to the dyno and do what that other dude said

built zc · 07-23-2010, 01:03 AM

I don't mean brake your motor..I mean when u have a fresh built don't u have to brake your engine in??? And can I use my bisimoto cams with my stock ecu just for braking the engine in ?

Full_Tilt · 07-23-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by built zc

I don't mean brake your motor..I mean when u have a fresh built don't u have to brake your engine in??? And can I use my bisimoto cams with my stock ecu just for braking the engine in ?

Youre completely ignoring what I said.

YES you have to break your engine in. It takes less than an hour.
Start it up, get it up to temperature with casual driving then go pull vacuum on the rings by accelerating and decelerating in gear, each time increasing rpm. come home, change the oil. Then go beat on the car with fresh oil and a fairly conservative max rpm.

danz · 07-23-2010, 10:01 AM

turbo 1.2 cams are MILD.

you will be A-OK on a stock ECU

The_Acid_Beaver · 07-23-2010, 02:16 PM

It will run richer than normal, but not excessively. The stock ECU will be more than up to the task.

Pull the ECU fuse, crank the engine over in short spurts until the oil light goes out. Put the fuse back in. Start it up. Let it warm up. Check for leaks, listen for nasty noises. Set ignition timing (correctly). Drain oil, change filter. Replace oil and filter. Drive the car in 1-2-3, putting load on the engine. For example get going to 20MPH, put it in third, then stomp on the gas pedal, until you hit about 3500RPM. Let off the gas. Do this a few more times. Do not drive at constant speeds in one gear. The rings must seat quickly.

After doing this for a while, you should notice less smoke, better power, and no issues. If there are no issues, drive it like you stole it. Change the oil to whatever you want at 500 miles and put a new filter on.

Done.

built zc · 07-23-2010, 09:22 PM

Ok thanks.... is there a certain way to time my 1.2 turbo cams??or do I time them as same as stock?

cticknor666 · 07-23-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by built zc

Ok thanks.... is there a certain way to time my 1.2 turbo cams??or do I time them as same as stock?

Time it like stock.

randull · 07-26-2010, 09:23 AM

You should be completely fine with your stock ECU. But keep in mind to extract maximum power and reliability you need to tune it. If you have any other questions or concerns shoot me an email and I will get you squared away:
Randy@Bisimoto.com

built zc · 08-04-2010, 11:33 AM

Thanks people

07-22-2010, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	Bisimoto cams stock ecu question.. I just finish building my dohc zc motor with stage 1.2 bisimoto turbo cams....I Need to brake the motor in so can I use my stock ecu with them cams??? I was going to brake the motor in before I get it tune ??

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Full_Tilt D-series soldier iTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Jesusville, FL Posts: 964 Rep Power: 2	No, its going to run like dog shit, and its going to be lean at WOT in the upper RPM range. Youre going to need to go WOT and rev it out a lil to break it in properly. __________________ I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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Wes D-Series cadet iTrader: (9) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 411 Rep Power: 1	I don't understand how you can brake in the motor. I sit in the driver's seat while braking. __________________ Turn on, Tune in, and Drop out Y7 four-door 98' Civic GSR 97' Civic coupe

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danz 6262 > Holset iTrader: (6) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mission Raceway Posts: 8,352 Rep Power: 21	turbo 1.2 cams are MILD. you will be A-OK on a stock ECU __________________ my EJ6 build thread here! 2010 - 11.225@120.82mph - Z6 2009 - 10.912@127.33mph - A6 Special thanks to ColtCams.com and Go-Autoworks.com!

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The_Acid_Beaver All powerful D-series member iTrader: (14) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In a state of denial Posts: 3,229 Rep Power: 7 View My Photo Gallery	It will run richer than normal, but not excessively. The stock ECU will be more than up to the task. Pull the ECU fuse, crank the engine over in short spurts until the oil light goes out. Put the fuse back in. Start it up. Let it warm up. Check for leaks, listen for nasty noises. Set ignition timing (correctly). Drain oil, change filter. Replace oil and filter. Drive the car in 1-2-3, putting load on the engine. For example get going to 20MPH, put it in third, then stomp on the gas pedal, until you hit about 3500RPM. Let off the gas. Do this a few more times. Do not drive at constant speeds in one gear. The rings must seat quickly. After doing this for a while, you should notice less smoke, better power, and no issues. If there are no issues, drive it like you stole it. Change the oil to whatever you want at 500 miles and put a new filter on. Done. __________________ Not so obvious and ruthlessly odd . . . My quench is tighter than yours! :P #1 P29 hater.

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07-22-2010, 05:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	I sent my stock cams in to bisimoto to get regrind so I don't really have money to get use stock ones..so can i use my stock ecu and my cams to brake my motor in??? Please let me kno I wanna brake my motor in?

07-22-2010, 05:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	May I ask to what wot is?

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built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	i thought break in is about 500miles????and i have a pr4 ecu thats tune on crome on 5psi can i use that????????????

07-22-2010, 07:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
cticknor666 D-series soldier iTrader: (11) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 724 Rep Power: 7	people still break in their motors? lol I do all the breaking in, on the dyno while tuning.

07-23-2010, 01:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	I don't mean brake your motor..I mean when u have a fresh built don't u have to brake your engine in??? And can I use my bisimoto cams with my stock ecu just for braking the engine in ?

07-23-2010, 09:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	Ok thanks.... is there a certain way to time my 1.2 turbo cams??or do I time them as same as stock?

07-26-2010, 09:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
randull n00b iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	You should be completely fine with your stock ECU. But keep in mind to extract maximum power and reliability you need to tune it. If you have any other questions or concerns shoot me an email and I will get you squared away: Randy@Bisimoto.com

08-04-2010, 11:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
built zc D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 331 Rep Power: 2	Thanks people

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