Going to buy good Car-Alarm System - need experts advice!

[kaace]

Originally Posted by Nasty_Canasta

Personally, I see no point in getting an alarm. At least here in Detroit. Auto
theft is a big thing here..but one of the popular ways of theft is by flatbed
truck. With that being a common procedure, you'd just hear your alarm fade
off into the night.

My Del Sol is always garaged. But if I'm parking somewhere at night or
somewhere I feel is risky in the day, I pop the hood and yank out a few
"key components" that allow the car to start. After doing it so much, it
takes me 15-20 seconds tops and I have peace of mind. If a flatbed
comes, there's nothing I could have done anyway.

wow...

[rider5000]

What I thought was a good idea in my CRX is to hook a relay up to my seat belt switch to energize when you are buckled up. Than would control the power to the starter, so if your not bucked you can't start the car. How many thieves will buckle up before stealing your car??

[Mariozas]

Originally Posted by rider5000

What I thought was a good idea in my CRX is to hook a relay up to my seat belt switch to energize when you are buckled up. Than would control the power to the starter, so if your not bucked you can't start the car. How many thieves will buckle up before stealing your car??

this is nice idea...!!! or to hook up fuel pump relay trough seat belt switch, but u must put in the relay which would keep connection engaged for time since u start the car, because you dont want to get ur car to cut off if u just decide to get out of ur car just for a few secs w/o shutting down the engine...

I will see if I can swap this seat belt clip with switch from standard seat on to oem Honda recaro seat which hasn't got that switch... if it will work for me I will install it as an addition on to my alarm system

[Aeroflux]

Fuel cut with a reed switch.

Can't protect against a flatbed unless you got airbags and (literally) slam your car...maybe not even then.

Having a hidden switch ANYWHERE in the car (that must be tripped to engage the fuel pump) is better than a car alarm in my opinion. What they don't know about your car is obviously better than what they do. They see a light blinking they are going to think car alarm and adjust their plan of action.

[cbuscivictuner]

I know this is kinda old, but a fuel kill switch to a pro thief is kiddie stuff. They are way to over done and everyone knows about them. As soon as a thief doesn't hear the fuel pump prime he knows what the problem is.

What happens when they pull up your seat (it's held on by one bolt and can just be lifted or ripped out) and undo your wiring job? Let's say your smarter then that.. and didn't do it under the seat like 75% of people do, all he has to do is cut ONE wire under the seat and hook it to either the battery or a 12v plus outlet at the fuse box. All a pro has to do is carry a 3 dollar roll of wire with a spade connector on the end of it,a set of small cutters and a lighter to strip the wire with him.Not exactly hard to find tools. There have been many cases of this happening. People will assume their car got towed because they have a kill switch, but more often then not this isn't the case.

Good security has LAYERS and a good ALARM install. You really need an alarm with battery backup and kill switches (manual and alarm controlled) to have a good security system.Not common kill switches either. You can kill the ecu, icm, main relay,starter, ignition distributor sensors, clutch switch, neutral safety switch, and your car will not start and it will be harder to diagnose. A main relay kill doesn't show a check engine light and even with the fuel pump having straight 12 volts to it (which they will do since it won't prime and they will assume fuel kill) it still won't start.


I have a good higher end alarm with extra layers. Lets say for example a thief wants my car..If he pops my hood like a pro would first, the alarm goes off. That's IF he gets past my proximity and shock sensors and hood locks.(In reality he's not going to get past my hood locks without setting of the alarm.)Then he removes my battery... Guess what alarm is still going off, thanks to the backup battery...lets say he still tries to start the car with 3 sirens still going off (I also have a paging remote so I would have already been outside but this is just an example) then my fuel cut kill switch stops the car from running...then lets say he by passes that... then he has to bypass my other secret number of non fuel kill switches..

Do you see someone getting past all that in under 10 mins without towing it? Towing it is a big risk.With all the trouble I went to protecting my car I could have a gps system.... If you just have that one fuel kill switch it doesn't matter where you mount it, the fuel pump is under the seat and it's easy to bypass.

[MopTop]

^^Nuf sed
some 4 door handles are nice, also reroute your hood cable.
Layersssss

[Aeroflux]

Good suggestions...though not every thief that pops your hood is a pro...in the two years I lived in downtown Long Beach my car was broken into three times. They mistook my radio light for an alarm and disconnected my battery...but failed to comprehend how to get the steering column cover off. LOL

The other two were just going for my radio...sadly it's a POS $50 radio...and a $120 window.

Eventually I will add layers to my security system, but for now the fuel cut switch will keep all but pros in confusion. I'm far less than 25% of the population too.

[cbuscivictuner]

I'm not saying every thief that goes for your hood first is a pro, but a pro will go for your hood first lol. If that makes sense.

[Mariozas]

the best would be to add few alarms with immos one for fuel cut other for coil, third for something like starter... and add a GPS tracker with a separate motorbike battery (for GPS backup)that charges all the time while ur car is rolling, so even when battery is cut off u still track ur car from anywhere. IMO the best is just what I said...