volkswagon turbos?

[Drumritter258]

hey just wondering if the volkswagon turbos would be a good choice for a vitara build. i was offered a K04 for 75 and i was wondering what it would max out at psi and hp range.

[mindless]

IMO wait to find a decent T3. You would have to have a custom manifold made because of the funky flange.

[MSUGeoman22]

^ X2. Its comparable to a IHIRBH5 (probe/mx6 turbo) and you can get those mani flanges easily and they are just as cheap at the junk heap.

[Haysoos]

You'll definitely have a unique project, but unique projects aren't easy projects. I don't think I've ever heard of a VW boosted civic...

[MSUGeoman22]

I guess you could make your own flange too if ya got the stuff to do it.

[Drumritter258]

would it really be too hard? the guy who is doing my exhaust system has a full welding setup. what would all be involved and if i got that VW turbo could i hit 400hp? thats my top goal on my vitara build

[shoebox_civic]

no vw turbo will hit 400hp, they all have smallish compressors and to them, a 25lb compressor is an upgrade.

(T3's flow about 35lbs, in 45trim)

[Drumritter258]

maybe t3/t4?

[mindless]

would it really be too hard? the guy who is doing my exhaust system has a full welding setup. what would all be involved and if i got that VW turbo could i hit 400hp? thats my top goal on my vitara build

According to some sites they are good for 225hp. Whether that's crank or wheel I don't know.

Don't forget the custom downpipe too.

Like I said, IMO, I would wait. I paid $80 a piece shipped for two perfectly good T3 .42 / .48 saab turbo's neither of which had ZERO play. Both had the T3 flange of course and both had the 5 bolt DP flange. It just makes it easier in the long run if you want to upgrade your turbo without having to buy a new manifold and DP.

[shoebox_civic]

According to some sites they are good for 225hp. Whether that's crank or wheel I don't know.

most likely crank, makes sense given a 25lb compressor wheel

Don't forget the custom downpipe too.

Like I said, IMO, I would wait. I paid $80 a piece shipped for two perfectly good T3 .42 / .48 saab turbo's neither of which had ZERO play. Both had the T3 flange of course and both had the 5 bolt DP flange. It just makes it easier in the long run if you want to upgrade your turbo without having to buy a new manifold and DP.

what if I wanted to use the internal gate and 5-bolt to 3 bolt outlet?

know where to get a 3 bolt dp?

[mindless]

most likely crank, makes sense given a 25lb compressor wheel


what if I wanted to use the internal gate and 5-bolt to 3 bolt outlet?

know where to get a 3 bolt dp?

I'm sure you can get one from autoworks on this site. Or bmcrace.com may have the flange. There are plenty of ways to get the flanges you need for a particular setup. Or you could get a 5 bolt DP flange with a hole for the internal wastegate already cut out and have it dump open or back into the DP as you see fit.

[shoebox_civic]

I'm sure you can get one from autoworks on this site. Or bmcrace.com may have the flange. There are plenty of ways to get the flanges you need for a particular setup. Or you could get a 5 bolt DP flange with a hole for the internal wastegate already cut out and have it dump open or back into the DP as you see fit.

see the thing is, the wastegate flapper is integral to the 5-3bolt piece (I believe garrett calls it the "swingvalve")

[Honda4VW]

Get the KO4 for me and ill put it on my VW for 80$

[shoebox_civic]

lemme guess: your VW is currently broken?

[Honda4VW]

lemme guess: your VW is currently broken?


Not even close pal. 110K of trouble free miles

Oh yeah :haha:

[Drumritter258]

lol

[mindless]

see the thing is, the wastegate flapper is integral to the 5-3bolt piece (I believe garrett calls it the "swingvalve")


Ah that's right. I forgot about that.

[ETsk8KID]

you might as well use a hairdryer for your turbo... wait for a T3/T4 and sell the K04 to honda4vw

[drunkinmaster1]

k04 turbos range from the size of a bagel to around t-25 or small t3 turbo size.a smaller turbo running on edge at higher boost than its efficiency island is going to blow alot of hot air.
for a built motor this wouldn't really be taking advantage of your build.
get something that will make more cfm with cooler charging at the same power levels.
the smallest id get would be a super 60 for a vitara build, or a t3/t4 .48 .60 .
mine is a bit bigger wheel trim and absolutely love it.

[Drumritter258]

welll i am definately going to consider that..now i just need to find a engine

[transzex]

I want a puny turdblo. D15B7 4 door, automatic, perfect for pulling the hills and tuning for better fuel economy.

[MidCalTuner]

I am sorry but IMHO, having a K03 in my hand, and being able to size the inlet comparable to a quarter.... too small for me... unless you want instant boost.

[Honda4VW]

I am sorry but IMHO, having a K03 in my hand, and being able to size the inlet comparable to a quarter.... too small for me... unless you want instant boost.

Pics, cause thats a bit of exagerration

[MidCalTuner]

Pics, cause thats a bit of exagerration

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTurboPics001.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTurboPics002.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTurboPics003.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTeardown055.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTeardown053.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTeardown051.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTeardown050.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTeardown047.jpg

[MidCalTuner]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTeardown036.jpg


I know how you guys always like pics and all....:bong:

[Honda4VW]

I guess I can compare the inlet on a T77 to a quarter too, based on how you compare things to a quarter

[MidCalTuner]

HAHA, yeah, but it is a pretty frikken small hole to have to route all 4 exhaust ports to.

[brother dad]

The wife used to have an A4 1.8t,the turbo looks like a toy,and it was making boost at about 1500 rpm for a gas milage build it would probably work great,top end not so much.I noticed a huge improvement in freeway mpg after the gt28 install 40.5 mpg on my last long freeway cruise at 70-75 mph Portland to Seattle and back on 1/2 a tank in a 91 Si hatch

[SOHCinWA]

The inlet is smaller in diameter than the length of a AA battery... You do the math ...

[drunkinmaster1]

perfect turbo for a lawnmower.http://www.anikaos.com/0023-crazy_alien/newbuddy_021.gif
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c115/JaredKaragen/JettaTurboPics001.jpg

[MidCalTuner]

I was thinking of putting it on a 153cc gokart that I am putting together. We broke the rear axle jumping an 85 Honda Elite Deluxe scooter 5+Ft in the air, so we pulled the motor, and it is goin in the shifter kart.

It won't have gears, but adding the turbo isn't a bad idea... plus, that turbo's inlet is comparable to a quarter!!! Were talkin full boost on a 1.8 at 1,500RPM!