D15B7 Turbo Project Help.. Please Bare with me.

[SlowRider]

Hi. I have been searching and asking questions for weeks. Here as well as other forums. I want to turbo my B7 and run 5psi. As of the minute I dont have any parts. Why you ask. Because I cant figure out exactly what I need. Some people say I need a FMU and some people say a AFC with bigger injectors. Some say stock parts are fine. Some say get a T25 and Some say a IHI.

Please I am new to turbos. Nitrous I can tell you all about but not turbo. What I need is for someone with patiance and a Turbo D15B7 to make me a list of all the parts I need to run 5psi. Everything. I would be very greatfull. Please help me out. So I can start getting the parts. I want to make a Junkyard/ebay turbo setup because my uncle has a junkyard and I can get Almost all the parts I need for Free. And what I cant I can get from ebay.

Please help me.

[Bigwig NJ]

Ill run it down for ya b/c im bored and a nice guy. At the end ill leave my paypal accnt ( ;) )

Manifold- HF Manifold($50)
Adapter Plate- $30
Turbo- T3 .42/.48 internally gated. Personally i think these are the best turbos for a D series non vtec. Cheap, a million of them, and good internal WG
Injectors- DSM 450's
Try to find an Intercooler from the JY. A DSM sidemount is okay, but a starion would be better.

Get a blow off valve off a first generation DSM aswell.

Um...you probably can grab most of your piping for the FMIC also at your uncles place.

In all seriousness, i would ask your uncle if you can have a D16Z6 b/c D15's have such weak rods.

Um....fuel management just get some asshat to burn you a chip for TurboEDIT or Uberdata.....

Yea, thats about all i want to type now.

[oscarmayer]

sae yourself the hastle of a hf manifold and go to ebay and buy a sschrome unit. they are about $150 offf there and are far better units than a hf. by the time you pay for welding and all parts for that hf your about $100-$120 anyways, so why not spend the little extra?

everyoen always tries to shove everyone off to the 450 dsm and use the afc hack, i don;t liek it due to seeing personally last yr and this yr so far 8 motors blown due to hack issues and it being buggy. i recommend getting a set of prelude injectors and an afc instead. use a raising rate set to 6:1 use a 255lph intake fuel pump, and an adjsutable fuel regulator set to like 45psi. if doen right and proper you can run about 9-10 lbs with a decent ebay $250 intercooler and product about 200 wheel power.

[Bigwig NJ]

Why get prelude injectors when DSMs are the exact same price? Free in this case, since the kid has access to a junkyard.

That is also why i suggested an HF manifold. If he can grab all this stuff for little to no money, then why spend money?

Oscar, i know you have good intentions but i think if the guy has access to a junkyard, he should use as many parts as he can out of it, and a HF manifold w/ a starion or DSM IC with some DSM injectors would be the best bet for him.

[SlowRider]

Great Thanks alot. Keep the info coming. Whatever anyone has to add or say please do. I want the safest way to hook this up without destroying the car. Thanks.

[Toddnos]

whats the diff between the dsm injectors with the afc hack, or using prelude injectors with the afc?

[BseriesKllR]

dosent the ss autochrome manifold suck??

[SlowRider]

Ok so I went. This is what I got. Let me know if this stuff will work or if I need to go back to the drawing board. I got a TE04H Turbo. Misubishi it says on it, That was all I could find. Will this work for 5 psi. I got a FMI. Found it on a eclipse. Great shape to. But the turbo wasnt there. I got the injectors from the car to. They have blue tops. I found a S*** Load of charge pipe. Thats what I got any good? Please say I can use this. It has one broken fin.? But it spins nice and there is very little shaft play. There was like 4 of these but I couldnt find anything else. There was 1 Crysler with a turbo but it was in back of the motor and I couldnt get it off or see what it said on it. So I gave up. Please give me good news. Well at least it was all Free.

[Bigwig NJ]

NICE!!!!

Okay, good news and bad news.

Injectors=450cc DSMs so thats a score
FMI= I dont know what the fuck you need this for.
Charge pipes= 2" will be just dandy for what you want probably.


Badnews= Turbo with broken fins=death.

a TE04H is a 14b i believe which is just fine for your car. You just need one without broken fins.

Let me give you a list of cars that came with factory turbos b/c you are going to need to make another run to the JY for a turbo and grab a Side mount intercooler off a DSM while you are there. They also have them on probes aswell. either will be fine for what you need.

http://www.gamesbbs.com/~turbosi/junkyard_turbo_list.html

http://www.student.kun.nl/p.oonincx/Intercooler.html

www.homemadeturbo.com this place can give you some good JY info. especiall in the FAQ in the Forced induction. a bit of a cluster fuck, but you can find most of the shit you need to find.

http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/c8/42/ac_1_b.JPG

also get one of those off an 88-91 Civic or CRX. then order an adapter plate off ebay or something for $30 to match up with your turbo.

[SlowRider]

How bad do the fins have to be broken for it to be bad? The fin is broken on the one that I got but it is just alittle chip in the corner of the one fin. I dont know S*** about turos so if you say it is dead then I will go get anouther. But let me know because it is just a small chip in the croner of one fin. Thanks for all the great info.
I have a Side mount intercooler to. from a Turbo eclipse. 1G it was in the fender well. Where should I mount that on my civic? Where the AC core was. In front. ?

[Sonny7730]

for the turbo, don't use it. you'd rather be safe than sorry. chips get bigger, shaft play gets larger, and so on.

[SlowRider]

Well I guess that I will just grab anouther in the morning. Thanks for the info. What about the intercooler. Would I mount that where the AC radiator was?

[Bigwig NJ]

I would honestly need to see what the chipped fin looks like. Generally i would say anything with a chip isnt worth putting on your car because those fins are too keep the blade balanced. when the blades arent balanced through centrifical force you will develope shaft play and it could get as bad as to start scrapping the inside. If it were me, i would just go hunting for another turbo. I know it sucks, but i would go and just find a volvo or something w/ a t3 .42/.48 or another eclipse or talon w/ a 14b.

As for the Sidemount FMIC you can mount it a few ways. You can mount it in your fender well similar to the way its mounted on the DSM or you can mount it in the engine bay where you have an open space. the thing with mounting it in the engine bay is you need to be careful that it isnt getting heat soaked(basically not able to get any heat transfer) which could easily happen since w/ a turbo charger your engine bay's temps dramatically raise. If i were you, and you want to be a lil ghetto fabulous i would find two DSM sidemounts. cut off the end tanks that stick up in the air on both(leave a lil metal left for welding). then take one of the 2, flip it around so it looks like one big long intercooler and weld the two together.

Honestly, i would just suggest mounting one in your fender well on the passenger side. Those cores are surprisingly efficient. It will take a lil scrap metal and metal brackets from homedepot(look in the deck department) but its not too bad of a lil project.

I would go on www.honda-tech.com and do a few searches for how people mounted theirs.

[SlowRider]

Thanks a million for all the answers. I am going to get a diffrent turbo in the morning. I dont want to take chances. One last question. What do I need to do to make the injectors work. Can I just put them in and plug them in? Thanks for the answer.

[Bigwig NJ]

Its really quite easy. You just need to take your old injectors out. there will be 2 rings. one rubber, one plastic. bore both those out so that the DSM injector slips in. Then do that for all four.

Then if you have OBD1(92-95) injector clips, just look and see the lil tab inside the clip. take a razor blade and slice that off. then the injector should sit right in there. Last thing you need to do is get some 10W10 ohm(i believe) resistors and solder them inline w/ the yellow w/ black stripe wire off the injector clip.

Its not hard at all. go on www.homemadeturbo.com and go to the tech section and then just read the DSM injector install how to. its not very difficult at all. The worst is boring out those stupid lil o rings.

Again, with the bigger injectors you will need something to control those injectors. I would suggest chipping your ECU and just using a program like uberdata. If need be, you can PM me and ill make you a basemap that will run fine.

while you are in the yard tomorrow, go into any 92-95 honda civic or acura integra and see if their ECU's are in there. They will be under the passenger side glove box. behind the plastic panel on the side. Well if you can find any, they are easy money on ebay. Report back here if you get any, and i would be willing to chip your ECU and make you a basemap to run those DSM injectors for ya in exchange for an OBD1 ECU or something.

Report back with your findings.

Oh, go back to those Eclipses and Talons and grab the top charge pipe with a piece of metal...

http://www.dejontool.com/images/BOV's/1gDSM%20BOV.JPG it will look like that. grab as many as your uncle will let you of those aswell. Easy money y0! thats a blow off valve, not necessary but nice and it will make the psshhhhh noise.

[SlowRider]

Great thanks alot. I will see what I can do. As for ECU. After it is chipped will there be a serial port on it so I can control it? I would like to have one made for me. Thanks.

[Bigwig NJ]

chipping your ECU will allow you to change your fuel and ignition values to account for boost and for larger injectors. You cant just add a serial port to it, but you can buy a $50 eeprom burner of ebay and burn the chips yourself.

Im not trying to sell you the chip, i would just trade an ECU and a BOV or some injectors or whatever for the chipping(which is about a $50-75 process depending on who you talk to)

AIM: billab2ong
MSN: billab2ongnj@hotmail.com
Y!: billab2ongnj@yahoo.com

get in contact with me if you want to do a trade for the ECU chipping.

[Toddnos]

Bigwig....great help for this dude!! props to you.

[SlowRider]

Yes he was great help. I apprishiate it very much. Thanks alot.

[Bigwig NJ]

Bigwig....great help for this dude!! props to you.

It gives me a thread to link back to when i go into "asshole mode" and everyone says im never any help because i start telling everyone how stupid they are. Now i can be like "y0 bitch. check this thread out."

Yeah, if there is one thing i know how to do, is put a good honda turbo setup together for a street car. After that my knowledge becomes more and more of me pulling shit out of my ass.

[Toddnos]

word....^^^im the same way. I have help for those who ask properly...for those who dont.........*flame on*