Leaving the d in the garage....

[J. Tippy]

i am getting ready to pull the d out and put in the new swap... well most of the d....

F22b1
2000 ex tranny
Treadstone Turbo manifold
Bisimoto f2d adapter plate and light weight flywheel
bisimoto upgraded clutch master cylinder
action 6 puck duel diaphragm clutch (holds up to 500HP)
Treadstone 28 x 12 x 3 intercooler (holds up to 600hp)
HKS gen 2 ssqv bov
t3/t4 turbo .60/.48 trim
wolbro 255lp fuel pump
precission 880cc injectors (peak & hold)

will take pics when the swap gets put in....

[lsturbohatch10]

thats what i want my next setup to be, f2b..... mmmm
you leaving it stock internals?

[CrazyConscious]

Sounds like fun. I'm in for the pictures!

[myHonda1]

werd. get those pics up!

[J. Tippy]

thats what i want my next setup to be, f2b..... mmmm
you leaving it stock internals?


ya im leaving it stock internals... we are going to try and push 22psi on 91 street gas...

i will post up pics asap...

[BLK92_D16]

^NOICE!

[Levi]

those stock f22b1 internals should actually hold really well at those boost levels. That is a stout bottom end.

[IanB]

Does the F22 bolt right up to the D16 tranny?

[BLK92_D16]

^Nope, notice the "F2D" adaptor plate for the tranny/block...

Along that line though, how much more work it require to adapt the F to a B tranny? Just curious...

[J. Tippy]

not sure yet i guess bisi said that it is not all that hard and he give you detailed instructions... i will try and get as much of a walk through as possible for you guys...

[jimmyb34]

m buddy was running a 150 shot through a stock f22.... only problems he was having were related to other things... its still alive and running...

[amarok]

I was always interested in the F22 motor. Never really caught onto it due to the lack of extreme aftermarket support...

[99EJ6T]

:TTIWWP:

[lsturbohatch10]

im going to go with an f23a1 in my setup. i think im gonna leave it NA tho and trick some people. talk about a gsr eater, 150 ft lbs

[da_gorilla97]

Looks good man cant wait to see some pics.

[J. Tippy]

well the swap starts tomorrow i will try and take as many pictures as possible... we hope to have the whole thing done and dyno tuned by sat.

[Slowhatch]

what ecu are you using? any special programs you're using because of the f22? axles? shift linkage? wiring harness? prelude mounts? this could be a very cheap swap for me since people practically throw away f-series around here.

[bense]

LOL, I sure hope you've done you're homework. If not you're in for a BIG surprise.

[aaron590]

:TTIWWP:

[Levi]

good luck, this is a hell of a project

[bense]

I just finished mine, it runs and hauls ass.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/thebense/f20b_d_trans.jpg

I just gotta do something about my open manifold. It's got a 4-2-0 header on there now. It sounds like a planet exploding when I engage VTEC :)

[Levi]

sound clips?

[aaron590]

That look great. I'm not to familiar with the f series but I bet that thing pulls hard!

[Eyal 951]

sound clips?

[12:58] EYAL 951: get a sound clip
[12:58] EYAL 951: of your shit
[12:59] EYAL 951: especially with a 4-2-0 header, that must sound interesting
[13:01] derbense: no point
[13:01] derbense: it would just max out the audio

[d15dunebuggy]

I just helped do an F2D swap (NA F20B) In Bense's hatch. It was fun.

[d15dunebuggy]

oh....he already posted. cool.

[Slowhatch]

im sure a f2d swap would be more difficult than your average swap, but what about a f22b1 swap? just straight f22b1 motor and trans. i cant find any info on it besides people saying dont do it, its not worth it and that its too expensive blah blah blah

[bense]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/thebense/f20b_engine_pics/f20b_d_trans3.jpg

[J. Tippy]

looks good man.... i have a honda god helping me out so.... i hope we can get it done this weekend..... do you have any times at the track yet???

[Slowhatch]

so why is it so much better to use the d series tranny? will the f or h tranny not work with out mods to the shift linkage or something crazy? my local people told me it was not an easy swap in any way.

[crazyxzer0]

prelude runs cable linkages as opposed to the metal rods on the D/B

[86crxZ6]

those stock f22b1 internals should actually hold really well at those boost levels. That is a stout bottom end.

so.. one of these... say with 15psi would be realiable?

[J. Tippy]

well today was more parts shopping... flanges, gaskets, boost controller, and boost gauge.... i will plan on working more this weekend... sucks only having one day a week off work.. i have some pics i will try and upload tomorrow...

[Slowhatch]

well today was more parts shopping... flanges, gaskets, boost controller, and boost gauge.... i will plan on working more this weekend... sucks only having one day a week off work.. i have some pics i will try and upload tomorrow...

so are you going through with the f22b1 idea or what?

[yositoco]

Do you have pics of the adapter plate?

[bense]

Do you have pics of the adapter plate?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/thebense/f20b_engine_pics/misc/h2d_steel_plate.jpg

[J. Tippy]

here are some of the pics... hope to have more this weekend...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_7_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_8_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_9_full.jpg

this one is my F22
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_10_full.jpg

this is my buddies F22
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_12_full.jpg

my buddies ls/v-tec turbo
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_13_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_14_full.jpg

[J. Tippy]

and i just ordered a AEM tru-boost controller... should be here friday...

[amarok]

Lookin good...

[J. Tippy]

more goodies...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_15_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_16_full.jpg

[J. Tippy]

well the project went on hold for a little while... but now we are back on track and have cut out a big hole in the engine bay for the crank pulley and are now fabbing up a motor mount and cutting up the front bumper for the intercooler. i also picked up a water/methanol kit today to try and run more boost with less heat. i will post up picks later today.

[J. Tippy]

more pics... sorry about the quality, it was with my phone.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_17_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_18_full.jpg

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http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_22_full.jpg

[J. Tippy]

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_23_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_24_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_25_full.jpg

[J. Tippy]

well the project has taken a little bit more time than i expected... ran into some money issues, but am back on track...

I bought a 95 coupe and put my minime into it for a dd... but because this project has taken some much time to finish... i got board and put a Jackson Racing supercharger on it... I will take some pics and keep you guys updated on the Turbo F22 build...

Just ordered a single pulley crank pulley(from bisi) and arp head studs... it is so hard to find parts for this motor.....

whats let on the project is to install the solid motor mount, plumb intercooler piping, weld bov flange, make the down pipe, make the dump tube, and tune this bad boy.... i just have to wait on the parts....:cry:

[vtec_bomber]

I always wanted a F2D. Keep us posted.

[99EJ6T]

any updates?

[J. Tippy]

still waiting on the crank pulley and my head studs are on back order till the 20th...

[TurboedEk]

Nice to see more f swapped cars coming around

There cheap swaps and plenty of motors laying around

[99EJ6T]

right on, will be awaiting for the final result..

[pearl62]

BTW, how much for the F2D adapter plate?

[99EJ6T]

from bisi's site:

H/F2D kits:
Kit for cable transmissions: $649.00
Kit for hydraulic based transmissions: $719.00

[TurboedEk]

ouch , f series trannies are only $100 you can blow 7 tranies for the cost of a kit

[99EJ6T]

or get the kit and not worry about blowing the trans. to each his own, i want to see the final result.


btw: where are you getting that number from? most places i have shopped at charge the same for d trans as they do for the f trans.

[shoebox_civic]

ouch , f series trannies are only $100 you can blow 7 tranies for the cost of a kit

f trannies have shitty gearing, and a whack linkage.

not to mention if you have a nice hybridized+LSD d trans you want to keep your investment useful

[J. Tippy]

Well back into the swap again.... i haven't really had time to do much and the weather was too cold with out a heated garage.

Here are some of the new pics of the motor.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_36_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_37_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_38_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_39_full.jpg

dont know when exectly we will be done, but im hoping sometime soon

[EJ1 SCRAPPIN]

lookin good man!

[99EJ6T]

damn its been long enough bro. was wondering wiether or not you gave up on this or not. nice to see your working it all out. :TU:

now this is insperation for my to get my swap done!

[EJ1 SCRAPPIN]

damn its been long enough bro. was wondering wiether or not you gave up on this or not. nice to see your working it all out. :TU:

now this is insperation for my to get my swap done!

good p i know i want to see urs done to

[H2Bcivic]

not sure yet i guess bisi said that it is not all that hard and he give you detailed instructions... i will try and get as much of a walk through as possible for you guys...

the instructions suck BALLS!

im also curious why u had to cut a huge hole for the crank pulley?

[BLK92_D16]

Roller rockers eh? Interesting!

[J. Tippy]

the instructions suck BALLS!

im also curious why u had to cut a huge hole for the crank pulley?


well the motor was so close to the chassi, i actually had to buy a smaller pulley so that it would fit now i didn't need to cut it... sucks..

heres the pulley


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_40_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2152000-2152999/2152405_41_full.jpg

[99EJ6T]

im also curious why u had to cut a huge hole for the crank pulley?F2D swap sit further to the drivers side then a normal H/F2B swap. its the reason why i ditched the F2D swap in favor of a F2B swap for my EJ6. the pulley above is the one bisi talks about for h/f2d swaps over on H-T.

Roller rockers eh? Interesting!its a vtec f-series thing.

[vtec_bomber]

F2B is next in line if I ever get bore of my d16 I'm building right now.

[J. Tippy]

its actually the pulley from bisi

[99EJ6T]

its actually the pulley from bisi

i was not 100% if that was the one or not. it looked very very familiar. but since i have been sick lately, things are in a little bit of a fog....

is the pulley balanced? does he recommend it for street use? cause i would love to get one of those for my F2B, just to make it easier to swap belts and stuff.

anyway, sweet pulley bro :TU:.

[J. Tippy]

i was not 100% if that was the one or not. it looked very very familiar. but since i have been sick lately, things are in a little bit of a fog....

is the pulley balanced? does he recommend it for street use? cause i would love to get one of those for my F2B, just to make it easier to swap belts and stuff.

anyway, sweet pulley bro :TU:.

i actually dont know about that.... i didn't ask since it wont be a daily driver... but i will find out today

[Importfan1]

Looking good. Can't wait for more progress.

[H2Bcivic]

ima call bisi today and talk to him about a few things. do you have to run ur aftermarket slave cylinder or you running it just because?

[99ctrhatch]

what type of mounts are needed to run this motor in your car?

[99EJ6T]

i actually dont know about that.... i didn't ask since it wont be a daily driver... but i will find out todaythanks man, i really want to know.

ima call bisi today and talk to him about a few things. do you have to run ur aftermarket slave cylinder or you running it just because?you have to run a pull type for F2D swaps. the difference between the block and trans is way too much, imho. and an extended fork would be also be too much, imho.

what type of mounts are needed to run this motor in your car?

as far as i know, custom for H/F2D swaps. except the ED chassis. then again last time i said this, 40 mins later hasport annonced (sp?) the drop of the mounts for the ED on H-T. :lol:

[nO prEssUrE]

looks pretty interestin man .. but what motor mounts did u used ? an u have more pics look like its comin together real good ..

[H2Bcivic]

he already said he has the bisi kit which im guessing includes mounts, adapter plate etc..

[H2Bcivic]

o ok...personally i wouldnt wanna run a F2D id go with a b tranny

[J. Tippy]

he already said he has the bisi kit which im guessing includes mounts, adapter plate etc..

actually i had to make my own mounts... solid mounts

[99EJ6T]

there was a post between his two posts before. it was one by me saying the same thing i said in post number 70, but since it was redundent i deleted it.

now bring on the pics!

[christopher_davis]

Sounds like a pain in the dick project. Have fun man.

:D

[J. Tippy]

here are some pics of the new parts i just got to complete the project... im hoping its done soon.....

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/2149000-2149999/2149050_41_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/2149000-2149999/2149050_42_full.jpg

[99EJ6T]

damn it man, only two teaser pics? your freakin fired! :D

[kmanpete]

This is a very interesting build. How much time did you spend putting the motor in? What ECU are you going to use?

[Rease3]

nice build. i wanna c vids wen done

[J. Tippy]

more pics.... still have a few things to do... more and more every time i touch it.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/2149000-2149999/2149050_43_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/2149000-2149999/2149050_44_full.jpg

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[99EJ6T]

what made you decide to put the BOV under there?

edit: nice DP :TU:

[Boosted-ED-804]

This is coming along nicely big thumbs up from me keep up the good work

[civic4dr2000]

looks good cant wait til it runs.

[CrX_RiDInG]

Nice I just got done reading all the way through this post love this project cant wait to see her finished what happed to the pics of the JRSC?

[J. Tippy]

Nice I just got done reading all the way through this post love this project cant wait to see her finished what happed to the pics of the JRSC?

still haven't taken any pics of the jrsc coupe.... but the hatch is finally done.

Didn't dyno where i was hoping to be. I put down 225hp/220lbs at 15psi. I will post pics of the dyno sheet and i will post pics of the track times too.

I only got one pass and i forgot to let the air out of the slicks. i had them at 25psi. LOL. I ran a 13.389 at 99mph. I have video of the car on the dyno. i will post them soon.

[99EJ6T]

still haven't taken any pics of the jrsc coupe.... but the hatch is finally done.

Didn't dyno where i was hoping to be. I put down 225hp/220lbs at 15psi. I will post pics of the dyno sheet and i will post pics of the track times too.

I only got one pass and i forgot to let the air out of the slicks. i had them at 25psi. LOL. I ran a 13.389 at 99mph. I have video of the car on the dyno. i will post them soon.

good to see that its up and running.

the numbers are not that low, considering the turbo size. here is some info from the cb7 tuners website. its the top 20 whp numbers on their forum.
1. LoDollar92LX - 526 whp/ 400 wtq T3/T04R@18psi G22vtec
2. Accord_SIR - 414 whp/ 334wtq SC61@???psi H22
3. Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
4. DRQPQUT - 321 whp/284 wtq T3/T04@17psi H22a
5. Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
6. CBL - 313 whp/298 wtq GT32@14psi F22B DOHC
7. 91accordexR33 - 307 whp/298wtq GT30R@20psi F22b1 SOHC
8. Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
9. Turboh22accord - 292 whp/238 wtq t3/t70@12psi G23vtec
10. bjaccord - 280whp/258wtq t3/t04e@9.5psi h23 DOHC
11. Mozzandherb - 248whp/190 wtq t3/t04e@8psi H22a
12. Gdout90accord -247whp/246wtq t3/t04@9 psi F22B DOHC
13. Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
14. oneoffaccord - 241whp/243wtq t3/t04e@ 8psi H23 DOHC
15. 4doorkiller - 230whp/245wtq t3/t4OB@ 10psi JDM F22B SOHC VTEC
16. youngJAY - 201whp/212wtq 14b@8psi F22a SOHC
17. 92ex - 194whp/205wtq 14b@8psi F22B DOHC
18. Alex EX - 194whp/198wtq 14b@7psi F20A DOHC
19. Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
20. MidnightRayne - 174whp/194 wtq F20a DOHChttp://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=45035

edit: do you happen to have a copy of your fuel and ignition maps? i will be putting mine together here in the next few months and need some research material. :lol:

[1996 Honda Civic]

what made you decide to put the BOV under there?

edit: nice DP :TU:

an attempt to maximize noise of BOV