Dynatech Header Dyno [Archive]

shifty35

06-05-2007, 03:09 PM

Starting new thread since I couldn't figure out how to change the title on install thread to reflect update. :hammer:

Relevant Mod list:

97 D16Y8
Mild PnP/portmatch
Knockoff J's Racing intake
Dynatech 4-1 header, Magnaflow cat, 2-1/4" exhaust w/ resonator and EP3 chambered muffler
ACT Streetlite Flywheel

122whp/98tq for those who can't get images.

B18B wha?

http://home.comcast.net/~shifty35/dynatech/hatchdyno.jpg

SOHCinWA

06-05-2007, 03:25 PM

What were the numbers before the header??? Nice numbers though. :TU:

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 03:25 PM

my b18b will take some of this action :)
and i have a stock cylinder head :)

lol another reason i dont miss my single slammer

shifty35

06-05-2007, 03:38 PM

What were the numbers before the header??? Nice numbers though. :TU:

No before numbers... but one can assume it was representative of a mostly stock Y8... 110ish whp. Doubtful the intake/exhaust do a WHOLE lot.

Also, the Dynatech store on eBay has these back in stock for $75 Buy it Now... pick em up people!

shifty35

06-05-2007, 04:29 PM

SOHCinWA

06-05-2007, 04:31 PM

I thought this was called D-Serieslol

vtecduck

06-05-2007, 04:35 PM

my b18b will take some of this action :)
and i have a stock cylinder head :)

lol another reason i dont miss my single slammer

Hope you have something other than an LS trans...

Either way, troll elsewhere plz.

I thought this was called D-Serieslol

exactly, no one gives a ratt's ass about your slow ass b ;)

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 06:04 PM

lol i love gettin u guys all shitty about B-series. but to answer his question... i have a LSD b16 trans hooked up to it lol.

and im sry, i troll not, IRL i have over 1k posts on here, its just ive been banned 3 times for bashing the d-series when people say shit about their D engines bein superior lol. Bone knows of the situations, along with Jimmy

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 06:06 PM

exactly, no one gives a ratt's ass about your slow ass b ;)

ur absolutely right :(

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5827/photo0018ad3.jpg

99EJ6T

06-05-2007, 06:10 PM

IRL i have over 1k posts on here, its just ive been banned 3 times for bashing the d-seriesso you have a learning problem, huh? maybe you should not bash? could just be me, but it seems like if bashing got you banned, you would just stop doing it, right?...

btw to the OP, to bad you don't have before numbers. its a nice header though.

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 06:11 PM

lol nah, dont bash my engines, i wont bash yours, simple as that. and i still have more tech posts then 95% of the members on this site in my 1k posts, including FULL write-ups

vtecduck

06-05-2007, 06:12 PM

and im sry, i troll not, IRL i have over 1k posts on here, its just ive been banned 3 times for bashing the d-series

and yet you still keep coming back :slap:

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 06:14 PM

and yet you still keep coming back :slap:

ur right, bc i still wanna help the people out that are looking for help. then when i say something back when someone bashes i get whored :( its a vicious circle :( speaking of vicious time to go to the 18+ section... wewt

K2e2vin

06-05-2007, 06:24 PM

It's to be expected; it is a D-series board. I don't have a problem with B's or any other engines; out of all my Honda friends, I'm the only one running a D. (It's more of a cost thing)

As long as there's no big B vs. D thread jacking debate, who cares. We all know what B's can do, but this site is not about that.

DirtyDC4

06-05-2007, 06:49 PM

As long as there's no big B vs. D thread jacking debate, who cares. We all know what B's can do, but this site is not about that.

Exactly.

Thread clean-up needed in aisle 5...

transzex

06-05-2007, 06:59 PM

shifty35 drew first blood......by smacking the B18B, oldschool countered.

Bashing? It's just some friendly smack talk.

transzex

06-05-2007, 07:01 PM

shifty35 drew first blood......by smacking the B18B, oldschool countered.

Bashing? It's just some friendly smack talk.

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 07:03 PM

shifty35 drew first blood......by smacking the B18B, oldschool countered.

Bashing? It's just some friendly smack talk.

thank you bone :)

dkid15

06-05-2007, 07:06 PM

Bone double posted!!! ITBL? jk. Those are great numbers for i/h/e/pnp. I cant wait to get the bisi header

mindless

06-05-2007, 07:07 PM

shifty35 drew first blood......by smacking the B18B, oldschool countered.

Bashing? It's just some friendly smack talk.

Agreed....B's, D's, K's, H's...who gives a fuck.

shifty35

06-05-2007, 07:54 PM

Don't get me wrong, I think B-series engines are fantastic. The point I was making is simply, my engine performs the same as a stock B18B swap when people will insist a single cam is scrap and should be swapped. "Potential" aside, price / performance is still better for a mild D build.

If you don't mind, what kinda of setup / numbers are you getting from your B18B with a "stock" cylinder head? The flow on them isn't terribly great from the factory, and neither are the cams... I can only assume large displacement bottom end / high compression? In which case, it could hardly be called a B18 if ya got it bored out.

I got love for anyone who's confident in the setup they have and the work they do. Just because someone else has more power doesn't mean anything.

There's always someone faster...

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 08:02 PM

transzex

06-05-2007, 08:02 PM

Now wait a minute.......

your down about 10-15 wtq

Always someone faster or deeper pockets......but are they having fun?

D's are fun......even more fun whipping on worn out B18's :)

oldschooljdm

06-05-2007, 08:07 PM

Now wait a minute.......

your down about 10-15 wtq

Always someone faster or deeper pockets......but are they having fun?

D's are fun......even more fun whipping on worn out B18's :)

yea i always enjoyed making the LS tegs my bitch with my old single slammer. and the GSR's were shitty when id be at their side mirror smiling at them

99EJ6T

06-05-2007, 08:10 PM

Always someone faster or deeper pockets......but are they having fun?and bone gets it right on the head. doesn't matter what you modify, so long as you have fun doing it / driving it.

AllMotorDPower

06-05-2007, 08:14 PM

my b will beat ur b but i still love my d rawr

shifty35

06-05-2007, 08:24 PM

look at the picture... i have a ls/vtec set up lol. b18b bottom end, stock with 20k miles, 81mm bore 89 stroke... and a stock b16 cylinder head for the most part, other then a valve job bc the head had 100k on it. stock ports, stock b16 cams, milled .006" to make it flat again. there are only 100% honda parts in my build except for my synchro's and diff

I tuned a friends B18A with P30s, stock PR3 head with junk header... 165 whp, I think 130ish torque... hot little setup for a minimal investment.

B motors aren't too hard on the wallet, it's finding a daggum trans these days that kills ya.

shifty35

06-05-2007, 08:28 PM

Now wait a minute.......

your down about 10-15 wtq

Always someone faster or deeper pockets......but are they having fun?

D's are fun......even more fun whipping on worn out B18's :)

Hee, so I am down about 15 wtq. Here's a stock 00 B18B dyno I dug up...

My top end is a hair better, a little bit more usable powerband.

A friend drove my car and commented on how smooth it was... chalk it up to a flat ass tq curve.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjc3MjU0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

transzex

06-06-2007, 12:38 AM

Hee, so I am down about 15 wtq. Here's a stock 00 B18B dyno I dug up...

My top end is a hair better, a little bit more usable powerband.

A friend drove my car and commented on how smooth it was... chalk it up to a flat ass tq curve.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjc3MjU0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Was that pull from the same dyno you tested on? I doubt it. We can make dynos a lair, but timeslips are harder to cheat at.

I hate to tell you, but TORQUE wins races, HP wins benchraces.

Your tranny comment is the MAIN reason I've stayed SOHC. They are cheaper to fix or buy used.

Gearing wins........

oldschooljdm

06-06-2007, 10:15 AM

I tuned a friends B18A with P30s, stock PR3 head with junk header... 165 whp, I think 130ish torque... hot little setup for a minimal investment.

B motors aren't too hard on the wallet, it's finding a daggum trans these days that kills ya.

finding a trans? shit mine was thrown at me for free lol.

SOHCinWA

06-06-2007, 10:17 AM

Your tranny comment is the MAIN reason I've stayed SOHC. They are cheaper to fix or buy used.

Gearing wins........

AMEN!!!!!!

replica

06-06-2007, 10:19 AM

B18B wha?

I'm sorry, did you develop a stutter after realising that you make no torque compared to a stock B18? The dyno you posted looks like a B18A...

shifty35

06-06-2007, 10:22 AM

finding a trans? shit mine was thrown at me for free lol.

Pssh send one my way and the Y8 will be in the garage the next day!

Toddnos

06-06-2007, 10:25 AM

D's are fun......even more fun whipping on worn out B18's :)
i enjoy smoking d15s shifting at 4000 rpm:haha:

replica

06-06-2007, 10:30 AM

i enjoy smoking d15s shifting at 4000 rpm:haha:
Is that redline for a B20? :fairies:

just messin with ya

Toddnos

06-06-2007, 10:34 AM

Is that redline for a B20? :fairies:

just messin with ya
:haha:x2

transzex

06-06-2007, 11:46 AM

i enjoy smoking d15s shifting at 4000 rpm:haha:

Why shift? I have an automatic :)

Toddnos

06-06-2007, 11:52 AM

Why shift? I have an automatic :)
dude with swollen hands, id have an auto too;)

gearhead98

06-06-2007, 12:33 PM

man i can beat all yall on my saturn 5, no beats a nasa engineered rocket baby :)

oldschooljdm

06-06-2007, 03:05 PM

i enjoy smoking d15s shifting at 4000 rpm:haha:

i dont waste my time with the 1.5's anymore, realize that even if they have a chance, they are probably boosted or on the bottle, so i turn on my bottle and i show them how long a bus can be and a good view of my tail lights

SOHCinWA

06-06-2007, 03:07 PM

No bottle needed here. ANd the only boost I have is in my Typhoon..

oldschooljdm

06-06-2007, 07:14 PM

ROFFEL-MOW SOHCSTUDENT neg repped me for my first reply... lol what a fuckin loser

Dynatech Header Dyno 06-06-2007 10:48 AM SOHC_STUDENT d-series.or org, say it with me d-serie

crooked muffla

06-06-2007, 10:20 PM

this thread has gone to shit

what size is the collector?

and hows ground clearance?

DirtyDC4

06-06-2007, 11:12 PM

this thread has gone to shit

what size is the collector?

and hows ground clearance?

Collector outlet is 2" and ground clearance SUCKS on my EF. It hangs at least 1/2" lower than my oil pan.

BUT, it's worth it. :)

shifty35

06-07-2007, 05:42 AM

Collector outlet is 2" and ground clearance SUCKS on my EF. It hangs at least 1/2" lower than my oil pan.

BUT, it's worth it. :)

Ground clearance is not too bad on my car, since I have Y8 pan... they hang low anyway.

crooked muffla

06-07-2007, 08:06 PM

would this be major upgrade fom my slightly dented Megan 421 hdr?

I am concerned about the ground clearance but the price is right...

shifty35

06-08-2007, 06:09 AM

I dunno about "major" upgrade... but you can prolly sell your Megan for what you spend on the new one, lol.

crooked muffla

06-08-2007, 08:48 AM

wait those dyno results were untuned???

Henklin

06-08-2007, 08:51 AM

Yea, I think he's running a straight P2P. <3 emissions.

shifty35

06-08-2007, 08:56 AM

Well, if by "untuned" you mean I don't have a chipped ecu, then yes.

I did adjust the FPR to hit my target A/F (~12.5:1-13:1). And I tweaked the timing a little bit. But it is a stock OBD2 ECU.

crooked muffla

06-08-2007, 08:58 AM

nice

jmar504

06-08-2007, 12:31 PM

No before numbers... but one can assume it was representative of a mostly stock Y8... 110ish whp. Doubtful the intake/exhaust do a WHOLE lot.

Also, the Dynatech store on eBay has these back in stock for $75 Buy it Now... pick em up people!

umm i have a really old import tuner mag and there is a y8 with i/h/e on the powercell thing and it only made 103whp and 96tq... so thats pretty good numbers...

nocteratus

06-08-2007, 07:09 PM

umm i have a really old import tuner mag and there is a y8 with i/h/e on the powercell thing and it only made 103whp and 96tq... so thats pretty good numbers...

look at this...

http://www.importtuner.com/powerpages/0505it_1998_honda_civic_ex/index4.html

baseline 106.1whp 94.0tq
I/H/E 118.9whp 99.9tq

crooked muffla

06-08-2007, 07:15 PM

the header did the most...

o def against that crap weapon R intake, gimme a break....

crooked muffla

06-09-2007, 01:04 AM

Can we get some clearance photos???

especially u dirtyDEF caus u rockin the EF!

Henklin

06-09-2007, 06:39 AM

Here's mine (just installed it last night) on a gen5 Z6 with Eibach ProKit springs.

http://henklin.ridethepig.com/Civic/dynatech.clearance.jpg

DirtyDC4

06-09-2007, 07:33 PM

I WISH mine sat like that. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/AiMThiS/IMG_3206.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/AiMThiS/IMG_3204.jpg

It already has battle damage from a driveway this morning. :(