boosted hondas in california?

[hondalover22]

Alright, this is about having a boosted car in cali. I live in Oklahoma and might be moving to cali, but I have a boosted civic and I don't think its going to pass emissions up there for sure. we don't have emissions here in oklahoma and I would like to know what is the best way to deal with this. It would also help to know what kinda of emissions test and the things your car has to pass. I don't want to sell my car but if I have to I will. So this is for all you cali people that have modded hondas in cali and the crap you have to go through. any input would be great.

[GreyGoose]

cali sucks bro..if you have a stock greddy kit you should be fine, maybe hassled but fine. its not legal with fmic or bov either. or you could just drop 3gs on an edelbrock kit and be straight.

[94z6ex]

yeah.....edlebrock kits are cali/smog legal i beleive.....homeade, pretty much dont bother from what i understand. they are pretty darn strict.

[Levi]

Well in Mendocino and Humboldt counties, you do not have to pass any smog or inspection. The only time you have to smog a vehicle is when you first purchase it in those 2 counties. Now most counties in this state really suck for smog stuff. You have to do it normally every 2 years to register your car. It is a royal pain in the ass in most areas of California.

[GreyGoose]

Well in Mendocino and Humboldt counties, you do not have to pass any smog or inspection. The only time you have to smog a vehicle is when you first purchase it in those 2 counties. Now most counties in this state really suck for smog stuff. You have to do it normally every 2 years to register your car. It is a royal pain in the ass in most areas of California.

bastard:haha: i wish it was the same in solano county

[turboedpickup]

^^^^^ yes. i have to smog it this year... AND i just bought it last year - smogged it then too... we'll see how it goes (my car's not even boosted... it's i/h/e)...

or you can go to honda-tech.com...there's a guy on there that can make you smog exempt for the right amount of money.

[hondalover22]

alright well, I hate to say but what about have a different engine, I have a dx civic with a built jdm d15b but I have a stock d16z6 if I swap and put a stock exhaust and all the emission crap it came with would this work , man I think I should just buy stock car the more I think about it. so woth the edlebrock kit I would have any problems with getting smog tested and police shit.

[turboedpickup]

talk to the guy on h-t. it's prolly going to cost you 3-400 bucks... but you'll be done with smog.......for good.

[D til Death]

talk to the guy on h-t. it's prolly going to cost you 3-400 bucks... but you'll be done with smog.......for good.

I live in Cali and that's not a bad deal.

There are other counties that are exempt. I believe if I've read on here right that the d15b is smogable in Cali. You won't have to go as far as removing the entire engine. Then when you put it back on there's the CHP who have actually have done their homework. There's a state ref station at my school and I've seen 95% honda/acuras in there.

[99EJ6T]

It would also help to know what kinda of emissions test
in the east bay area (contra costa county), you will be required to have a load test with a sniffer in the tail pipe. but thats after you get the visual inspection.

basically, they strap you down to a dyno, stick a shiffer in the tail, and run the car at 15 mph, and then at (iirc) 25 mph. you must pass both load levels to pass as smog compliant.

btw: my friend from back home did not pass his visual. based on the fact that he swapped out his turbo for a gt28rs. his car is an audi 1.8t wagon.

I have a stock d16z6 if I swap and put a stock exhaust and all the emission crap it came with would this work

i use to do this, when it came time to smog (with my ED hbk). swap out the built a6 for my orignal motor. yeah worked out well, till i got pulled over and got the car towed. turns out they don't like imports in San Jose, CA. after that, i got the car back minus the a6.

leason learned; don't drive a built honda in San Jose, CA.

[amarok]

Well i honestly do see a problem with swaping my stuff back to stock every 2 years... Not that big of a deal. We have shady places in Cali too. You take a smog compliant civic same year and take your vin number and call it a day.

[hondalover22]

ah, man cali is a bitch about these thing, fuck, well looks like Im just going to have to get a newer car. just the way it sounds it would be easier to do.

[shaundrake]

Most swaps are legal with certain restrictions placed on them. And all your aftermarket parts will have to be 50 state smog legal. You can get the exact laws and even a list of parts at the CARB website.

I run a SOHC ZC, DC headers, AEM intake, custom cat back exhaust and it's legit. Also you can get away with any internal mods or mods that aren't obvious as long as you still pass the sniffer test, which you should anyway if you're tuned.

My best advice is to keep your car registered in OK using a friend's address.

[hondalover22]

Most swaps are legal with certain restrictions placed on them. And all your aftermarket parts will have to be 50 state smog legal. You can get the exact laws and even a list of parts at the CARB website.

I run a SOHC ZC, DC headers, AEM intake, custom cat back exhaust and it's legit. Also you can get away with any internal mods or mods that aren't obvious as long as you still pass the sniffer test, which you should anyway if you're tuned.

My best advice is to keep your car registered in OK using a friend's address.

see I thought about that, but if I do get pulled over and I have an california id I dont think that would fly but it is still a thought.

thanks guys for the replies keep it coming this is good info.

[99EJ6T]

My best advice is to keep your car registered in OK using a friend's address.
iirc:

CA law requires conversion to CA registration after ten days. if he gets two tickets, he will be giving his car to CA.

exemptions are:
active duty military (soldiers and sailors act) <- all states have this one
cars/trucks w/ services for sale (u-haul, etc)
naboring (sp?) states on local buisness, but still requires state transfer after 60 days.

^this could have changed, its been four years since i had to register in CA and my memory is really bad.

[SOHCinWA]

If it isnt smog legal then it wont pass... That was one of the reasons why I left. Its getting worse I have been told by a friend that is moving out of State shortly...

[99EJ6T]

the load test is what has been getting most of my old friends.

[hondalover22]

damn this suxs. hum maybe an suby sti will feed my needs for power but who knows I have to move there soon so I guess Ill see.

[crazyxzer0]

the load test is what has been getting most of my old friends.



I live in San Francisco. There is a 15mph test and then a 25mph test. They also do a Gas Cap test to make sure it is not leaking any fumes from the tank.
We get smog every 2 years or when we change ownership. Cars younger than 5years are exempt from smog. Diesel trucks are also. Natural Gas Vehicles are also exempt.

as far as turbo kits being smog legal greddy and edelbrock are legal. They still have to pass the sniffer.







the last option is the dirty smog. The details are vague.. :bong:






Bay area cops are dicks. I fear them as well as theives for hondas.

[hondalover22]

ya Ill be living in the san diego area and I have a friend that gets by with his supra but I just didnt want to go that way.

[siregcivic]

dont worry about cali, theres tons of shops that will do your smog for some extra cash if you know what i mean, shit i run boosted setup with no exhaust and i drive like an asshole literally around 70-90mph on the streets when theres not too many cars around and i chill at 90-110 on the freeway, as long as theres not alot of cars...

but i chill when i see cops if i had to i would pull the turbo kit off and put stock manifold on with cat and get an exhuast made with a muffler if i had to go to that extent to pass smog, but i know i can find someone to pass my shit when the time comes

[crazyxzer0]

well you can probably tune a greddy to lean out just for smogging.

[99d15b]

Hey bro big deal if u have to swap it in and out for smog, If you really want to stick with your boosted d-series then who cares about throwing the turbo on and off for smog you have to wait for lik 2 years till you smog it agains so who cares. Mines boosted and if the cops pulls me over then u I get a ticket to go get ur setup state ref, sourds of like a emission test to see if your parts are legal and legit, but Im risking it all for the d turbo so who gives.

[cory jordan]

my answer is this. do your swap correctly the first time. if you swap a d15b. use the correct intake manifold *z6* and hook up your egr, get it state referreed.<sp. after that you get a sticker. from the state saying your car is good. have your carb stickers there when needed and tell them to fuck off. soon as they 'pop your hood' both and all stickers are there and legit. they have no way of messing with you then. other than its too low, or your exhaust is too loud.

[crazyxzer0]

my answer is this. do your swap correctly the first time. if you swap a d15b. use the correct intake manifold *z6* and hook up your egr, get it state referreed.<sp. after that you get a sticker. from the state saying your car is good. have your carb stickers there when needed and tell them to fuck off. soon as they 'pop your hood' both and all stickers are there and legit. they have no way of messing with you then. other than its too low, or your exhaust is too loud.
still not true.

Open atmosphere BOV are illegal here. You can get a nice ticket for that. Also when in doubt, the cop will still give you a state ref ticket. They've done that to my roommate. My roommate gave them their greddy sticker and the cop said i'm giving you a state ref ticket. He said if you are legal, you shouldn't have any problem passing. Which is still bs because the main reason for these stickers is to avoid this stupid hassle.



sidenote:
legally.. it is allowed to swap in a replacement motor without needed to bar provided the engine is available that year.

[cory jordan]

no^ you are mistaken, they d15b manifold needs to be replaced with the z6 in order to pass the california state bar exam.

[crazyxzer0]

no^ you are mistaken, they d15b manifold needs to be replaced with the z6 in order to pass the california state bar exam.



sidenote:
legally.. it is allowed to swap in a replacement motor without needed to bar provided the engine is available that year.



provided the engine is available in that market. This means the D15B has issues meeting this requirement. :P I was too lazy to type.


ie. 1995 Del Sol d16z6 swapping in a 1995 B16A will not need BAR cert sticker.

[hondalover22]

this sux but is good info, I gues if it comes to worse I'll just take my turbo kit off until I can figure something out, until then keep it coming, the more I know the better.

heres a THOUGHT. it was stated a few post back but if I keep my oklahoma tag up todate until I figure out what to do, will this cause a problem in california? will I still be able to get my california drivers licence? just a thought.

[Haysoos]

Yeah, I lived in Cali for 9 months, never got my car registered. Got the ball rolling, got a ticket, then I never got pulled over again. It was.... wierd.

I don't suggest doing that though, I probably just got lucky.

[turboedpickup]

tellin you man...from H-T

his email: jargon_@hotmail.com

Quote, originally posted by JDM_DC2NER »
i know for sure i wont pass so who knows any shops in socal that will pass me for a small fee??? thanks a lot! p.s. willing to pay a finders fee...

Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »
Remember that vehicle registration, insurance, referee tickets and citations are all huge money makers. The local municipalities have to bring in alot revenue. That revenue is forcefully taken from the middle and bottom tiers in society that do not consult with attorneys and who have the "pay-up and go" mentality. Police officers do clean up the streets and are a great asset to our society, however, the police and courts have to bring in a steady cash flow , and we all know that criminals don't pay their restitution, so that leaves you and me to dish out some dough.

Quote, originally posted by built562 »
I call a huge BS on a B20 being BAR'd here in California because it is an illegal swap


BUMP THIS POST!

Try using the SEARCH function next time!

Yes, the B20 is a truck motor, yes, it is an illegal swap. Conventional wisdom would agree with you, however, we use propane gas to pass any engine swap in any car. There are legal ways to smog a B20. Read on......

Illegal B20 swap + propane gas = Alternative Fueled Emissions compliant engine swap. Alternative fuel is the key word here, forget the motor swap, with Alternative fuel, it is all about making the swap run clean. Even if the engine swap is a turbo GSR, Standalone with ITB's, once it is run on propane, all the performance mods are now legal because you can argue that the GSR, turbo, Standalone and ITB's are needed to take advantage of propane's 110 octane rating. This is cutting edge here, just because this is a loophole that is not commonly used, doesn't mean that it is BS.

Keep in mind that, once you remove the propane and re-tune your setup to run on 91 octane pump gas, you are no longer 100% legal, but wait, there's more.... here is the good part.... the BAR referee sticker in your engine compartment doesn't specify fuel. So, when Johnny law does pull you over, all they do is scratch their heads and wonder how you BAR ref'd a turbo GSR, Standalone with ITB's....

Besides BAR reffing your engine swap there is another interesting loophole that keeps Johnny Law off your back, it is called smog exemption, this exemption is a one time emissions test on propane that certifies your vehicle as an Alternative fueled vehicle and smog exempts the vehicle FOREVER, with smog exemption, you will NEVER have to smog your vehicle ever again, even when you sell it. Smog exemption is a legal loophole that smog exempts your vehicle forever, no more fooling around with shady emissions shops.

If you look hard enough, there are legal loopholes for everything. Laws, mandates, regulations and government protocols are written by attorneys with legal loopholes and/ oversights written in, that allow everyday citizens to drive, smog, register and import any vehicle ever made on the face of this planet.

For the record, smog exemption, carb exemption, and BAR reffing are 3 completely different processes, these terms cannot be interchanged. BAR reffing, by far, is the most difficult and useless certification. Smog and Carb exemption are far better than a BAR ref'd swap because a BAR ref'd swap still must undergo strict emissions testing, while the smog/carb exempted vehicle doesn't. Also, Johnny Law can ref ticket a Bar ref'd car, but not a carb exempted car. The simple definition of a carb exempted car is a car that is exempted from all carb emissions mandates. Basically, local law enforcement can pop your hood, but, because the vehicle is both smog/carb exempt, it is therefore emissions compliant regardless of what turbo
k20, GSR or b18 engine swap you may have, a smog/carb exempted car can legally drive around with a fully built turbo GSR with no emissions controls, and never get a referee ticket.

You gotta pay $$$$$$$$ to play.......

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[hondalover22]

good stuff my man, thanks. rep for all of you.

[Levi]

what part of california are you looking to move to?

[hondalover22]

what part of california are you looking to move to?

I'll be living in carlsbad for awhile, around san diego.

[Toddnos]

keep the car registered in OK

[Toddnos]

carlsbad is super nice dude...

[SOHCinWA]

Carlsbad is real nice.... Had some friends out that way. We also had 20 acres in Temecula. Lots of room for the kids to practice motocross. We had 3 practice tracks on the property and plenty of room for the toy haulers.
:TU:

[Toddnos]

used to be a 1/4 mile track in Carlsbad...good times!

[SOHCinWA]

Yeah that track was pretty cool. Only issue was the short shutdown area.... As soon as you crossed the finish line, you were hard on the brakes. Real Good times back then

[hondalover22]

good to know, makes me feel alittle better about moving there.

[NastyHabitzCRX]

still not true.

Open atmosphere BOV are illegal here. You can get a nice ticket for that. Also when in doubt, the cop will still give you a state ref ticket. They've done that to my roommate. My roommate gave them their greddy sticker and the cop said i'm giving you a state ref ticket. He said if you are legal, you shouldn't have any problem passing. Which is still bs because the main reason for these stickers is to avoid this stupid hassle.



sidenote:
legally.. it is allowed to swap in a replacement motor without needed to bar provided the engine is available that year.

if he refs the swap WITH the turbo kit then he is good. yes you can do that and on the plate that the refs attches to your car it says "w/turbo kit" on it. the greddy stickers are no longer looked at as being proof of bein a legal kit, since they have been copied.
add the BOV later and somewhere where no one will see it. dont make it seem too much harder than it is, just remeber the Greddy/Edelbrock kits have their HP limits. :beer:

[crazyxzer0]

that limits your possibilities.


it's either legal or powerful for turbo kits here in Cali. I opt for power :)

[KidGusto]

stay in the Big OK, I know I'm moving there in 6months I cant wait to hack off my cat.

[hondalover22]

Well, Im already boosted and making around 300hp but its not realy and option for me to stay i OKlahoma, plus it sux here. I'll probably will have to convert my car back to stock with all the shit that goes with it. Do they give you crap ablout have a lowered car too? man this shit sux I hate to have to do this, but sometime you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Toddnos]

tellin you man...from H-T

his email: jargon_@hotmail.com

Quote, originally posted by JDM_DC2NER »
i know for sure i wont pass so who knows any shops in socal that will pass me for a small fee??? thanks a lot! p.s. willing to pay a finders fee...

Quote, originally posted by hazw8st »
Remember that vehicle registration, insurance, referee tickets and citations are all huge money makers. The local municipalities have to bring in alot revenue. That revenue is forcefully taken from the middle and bottom tiers in society that do not consult with attorneys and who have the "pay-up and go" mentality. Police officers do clean up the streets and are a great asset to our society, however, the police and courts have to bring in a steady cash flow , and we all know that criminals don't pay their restitution, so that leaves you and me to dish out some dough.

Quote, originally posted by built562 »
I call a huge BS on a B20 being BAR'd here in California because it is an illegal swap


BUMP THIS POST!

Try using the SEARCH function next time!

Yes, the B20 is a truck motor, yes, it is an illegal swap. Conventional wisdom would agree with you, however, we use propane gas to pass any engine swap in any car. There are legal ways to smog a B20. Read on......

Illegal B20 swap + propane gas = Alternative Fueled Emissions compliant engine swap. Alternative fuel is the key word here, forget the motor swap, with Alternative fuel, it is all about making the swap run clean. Even if the engine swap is a turbo GSR, Standalone with ITB's, once it is run on propane, all the performance mods are now legal because you can argue that the GSR, turbo, Standalone and ITB's are needed to take advantage of propane's 110 octane rating. This is cutting edge here, just because this is a loophole that is not commonly used, doesn't mean that it is BS.

Keep in mind that, once you remove the propane and re-tune your setup to run on 91 octane pump gas, you are no longer 100% legal, but wait, there's more.... here is the good part.... the BAR referee sticker in your engine compartment doesn't specify fuel. So, when Johnny law does pull you over, all they do is scratch their heads and wonder how you BAR ref'd a turbo GSR, Standalone with ITB's....

Besides BAR reffing your engine swap there is another interesting loophole that keeps Johnny Law off your back, it is called smog exemption, this exemption is a one time emissions test on propane that certifies your vehicle as an Alternative fueled vehicle and smog exempts the vehicle FOREVER, with smog exemption, you will NEVER have to smog your vehicle ever again, even when you sell it. Smog exemption is a legal loophole that smog exempts your vehicle forever, no more fooling around with shady emissions shops.

If you look hard enough, there are legal loopholes for everything. Laws, mandates, regulations and government protocols are written by attorneys with legal loopholes and/ oversights written in, that allow everyday citizens to drive, smog, register and import any vehicle ever made on the face of this planet.

For the record, smog exemption, carb exemption, and BAR reffing are 3 completely different processes, these terms cannot be interchanged. BAR reffing, by far, is the most difficult and useless certification. Smog and Carb exemption are far better than a BAR ref'd swap because a BAR ref'd swap still must undergo strict emissions testing, while the smog/carb exempted vehicle doesn't. Also, Johnny Law can ref ticket a Bar ref'd car, but not a carb exempted car. The simple definition of a carb exempted car is a car that is exempted from all carb emissions mandates. Basically, local law enforcement can pop your hood, but, because the vehicle is both smog/carb exempt, it is therefore emissions compliant regardless of what turbo
k20, GSR or b18 engine swap you may have, a smog/carb exempted car can legally drive around with a fully built turbo GSR with no emissions controls, and never get a referee ticket.

You gotta pay $$$$$$$$ to play.......

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this has my head spinning...propane? thats rad if true.

[310ej1]

dont worry about cali, theres tons of shops that will do your smog for some extra cash if you know what i mean, shit i run boosted setup with no exhaust and i drive like an asshole literally around 70-90mph on the streets when theres not too many cars around and i chill at 90-110 on the freeway, as long as theres not alot of cars...

but i chill when i see cops if i had to i would pull the turbo kit off and put stock manifold on with cat and get an exhuast made with a muffler if i had to go to that extent to pass smog, but i know i can find someone to pass my shit when the time comes

Exactly. There is some people I know that can do it for 160.00 and I don't even need to drive my car over there. Just look around

[greasemonky50]

paint your intercooler black drive normally when daily driving and you'll be fine. but the day you get pulled over your going to have to explain what are all those new toys you have in your engine bay to the cop. but my friend has been boosted for 4 years and never been pulled over so its a 50 50 thing.

[Toddnos]

ive been caught and sent to the ref...had to sell my 95 GSR swapped coupe...couldnt pass smog. Now my freind has it, and got a bogus smog...i stopped riding dirty for a while, but im back to a swapped car, and the first cop to pull me will do the same thing again..they take classes to learn about fpr, intakes, headers, JDM this and that...they are getting smart..its because of stupid mutherfucking street racers killing innocent people...at least in Riverside/Ontario area.

[greasemonky50]

ive been caught and sent to the ref...had to sell my 95 GSR swapped coupe...couldnt pass smog. Now my freind has it, and got a bogus smog...i stopped riding dirty for a while, but im back to a swapped car, and the first cop to pull me will do the same thing again..they take classes to learn about fpr, intakes, headers, JDM this and that...they are getting smart..its because of stupid mutherfucking street racers killing innocent people...at least in Riverside/Ontario area.

this is so true street racers kill it big time in cali. oh yeah also never go to san diego in a modded honda lol. dragnet unit and cops are hot as hell out there.

[Toddnos]

i always hope that the officer will see my age, and listen that my father is retired law enforcement, and see im a resposible adult who enjoys riding around in a car like this..not owning it to be a street racer...

[greasemonky50]

i always hope that the officer will see my age, and listen that my father is retired law enforcement, and see im a resposible adult who enjoys riding around in a car like this..not owning it to be a street racer...

if only they understood

[Levi]

if only they understood

they dont, thats the sad thing.

[turboedpickup]

from the long post - you can check out h-t and see the reputation that guy has built. the guy i buy tires from got his b16a rex all set by that guy.

[99EJ6T]

Do they give you crap ablout have a lowered car too?yep, not as much as the noise or smog. since it is not a primary offence. they can't "pull you over" for just that one thing. however if they "think" you may have possible illegal parts, they can pull you over for that and slap you with the lowered ticket, even if they don't give you another ticket. at least this has been my experiance.

[Toddnos]

i like the propane conversion idea...excempt for lyfe sounds awesome

[hondalover22]

ya that would be cool but I dont have the time for that. thanks for the help again.

[amarok]

ya that would be cool but I dont have the time for that. thanks for the help again.

Yeah, the more and more i read and heard about the lpg/cng i finally decided to email the guy. I have yet to receive a response so when i do ill let everyone know what he charges and such.

[ardevas09]

this is so true street racers kill it big time in cali. oh yeah also never go to san diego in a modded honda lol. dragnet unit and cops are hot as hell out there.

i live in san diego with a gsr swap and turbo'd... the cops really don't mess with you unless you're being a jackass. smog shops are all basically ran by shady people, so you can "smog" your car for about 200 and go about your day. People just get all excited about this whole situation. So, basically, don't be stupid, spend a little extra, and you'll be ok!

[Haysoos]

i live in san diego with a gsr swap and turbo'd... the cops really don't mess with you unless you're being a jackass. smog shops are all basically ran by shady people, so you can "smog" your car for about 200 and go about your day. People just get all excited about this whole situation. So, basically, don't be stupid, spend a little extra, and you'll be ok!

I think there's some sound advice in there fellas. I made what I agree with stand out... :D

[hondalover22]

Yeah, the more and more i read and heard about the lpg/cng i finally decided to email the guy. I have yet to receive a response so when i do ill let everyone know what he charges and such.

ya that would be some good info.

[GreyGoose]

i live in san diego with a gsr swap and turbo'd... the cops really don't mess with you unless you're being a jackass. smog shops are all basically ran by shady people, so you can "smog" your car for about 200 and go about your day. People just get all excited about this whole situation. So, basically, don't be stupid, spend a little extra, and you'll be ok!

im in long beach and its the same here. i was always scared about being pulled over but i drive next to cops all day and nothing happens. just be cool and they ignore you. i guess not having a slammed car and a quiet exhaust helps.

[ef9turbo]

i live in oakland cali... before i had a crx with i/h/e and running no cat, loud as fuck, i be downshifting and flooring my crx and my turbo'd civic hatch and i haven't gotten a ticket yet... i blow off my bov everywhere.. lol i guess the cops have more important things to do like how to reduce the crime rates and the homicide rates in oakland... as for smog, i just go to either an asian smog shop and get it smogged and the ones i usually go to don't bother with visual... as for emissions, my buddies welded 2 cats together if he knew he couldn't pass smog because of mods and internals...sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't... you just got to work around this smog thing... no biggy... california is a nice state and depending on your location it's exciting and fun, so don't let no smogcheck ruin your day :-)

[hondalover22]

thanks man, makes me feel better about this shit.

[Toddnos]

i live in oakland cali... before i had a crx with i/h/e and running no cat, loud as fuck, i be downshifting and flooring my crx and my turbo'd civic hatch and i haven't gotten a ticket yet... i blow off my bov everywhere.. lol i guess the cops have more important things to do like how to reduce the crime rates and the homicide rates in oakland... as for smog, i just go to either an asian smog shop and get it smogged and the ones i usually go to don't bother with visual... as for emissions, my buddies welded 2 cats together if he knew he couldn't pass smog because of mods and internals...sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't... you just got to work around this smog thing... no biggy... california is a nice state and depending on your location it's exciting and fun, so don't let no smogcheck ruin your day :-)
you will change your tune when they send you to the ref...

[ef9turbo]

ahh... whatever, the ref could suck my biggy small d***....

[20civic00]

im doin a h22a swap in a month in my new 94 LX and im really worried about the state ref not legalizing the swap

[99EJ6T]

you will change your tune when they send you to the ref...

agree, he will.... once he gets a ref that pulles the motor and charges him to take it... that will make a man :cry:.

[crazyxzer0]

im doin a h22a swap in a month in my new 94 LX and im really worried about the state ref not legalizing the swap

be prepared to run EGR from the prelude and all the emission components involved with the lude. :P

[EJ1 Freak]

i live in oakland cali... before i had a crx with i/h/e and running no cat, loud as fuck, i be downshifting and flooring my crx and my turbo'd civic hatch and i haven't gotten a ticket yet... i blow off my bov everywhere.. lol i guess the cops have more important things to do like how to reduce the crime rates and the homicide rates in oakland... as for smog, i just go to either an asian smog shop and get it smogged and the ones i usually go to don't bother with visual... as for emissions, my buddies welded 2 cats together if he knew he couldn't pass smog because of mods and internals...sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't... you just got to work around this smog thing... no biggy... california is a nice state and depending on your location it's exciting and fun, so don't let no smogcheck ruin your day :-)

Haha yea you can probably get away with that just because it's in Oakland...more shit to deal with fo sho! lol

[SupraRXZ]

Im bout to be boosted, but im gunna try hidding all my shit as best as possible

try making it look like its a stock engine when you pop the hood
i got friends that can fab stuff together so this will be fun

E-Cutout to a stock exhaust FTMFW!!!!

[EJ1 Freak]

Im bout to be boosted, but im gunna try hidding all my shit as best as possible

try making it look like its a stock engine when you pop the hood
i got friends that can fab stuff together so this will be fun

E-Cutout to a stock exhaust FTMFW!!!!

I'm gonna be drooling hardcore when you're done! lol

[SupraRXZ]

I'm gonna be drooling hardcore when you're done! lol

BETTER! 400whp-450whp is my goal!
and better have one of those name tags printed with my SN at the next meet!

[EJ1 Freak]

BETTER! 400whp-450whp is my goal!
and better have one of those name tags printed with my SN at the next meet!

haha I'm never going to live that one down am I? ;)

[99EJ6T]

try making it look like its a stock engine when you pop the hood....E-Cutout to a stock exhaust FTMFW!!!!

so long as you stay out of Walnut Creek and San Jose.... you should have no problems running a built/boosted car in the bay.

sh!t last time i was in the city, i was running open dp on my friends audi. i didn't even get on look from the cops, don't think they even hear me over the city noise.... now i miss home :(.

[SupraRXZ]

any cops in the east bay sucks

and cops in SJ suck even more

oakland has soooo many problems they dont even bother dealing with modded cars

[D til Death]

On a side note from the re-post from Honda-tech. I asked a state ref and he said LPG systems have to be a free fab unit. No hookin' forklift mixer up to you intake or somethin'. He also said that I'd have to take it to Napa, the city. That's a distance from Modesto. I'm gonna actually call the corect agency to get specifics though. A lpg conversion is not that hard. At least on n/a. If I do it you can come and borrow my motor and then we'll just pass it around so everyone can be C.A.R.B. exempt up in here.

Also I'm so scared of a loud BOV here. I'd definetly run some DSM 1g crap if I were FI. Cops all over Cali are asses. The other prob is many cities call CHP for things. I.E. they think you're up to something and the assisting officer is CHP and they aint dumb. I'd still say bring it here as is tho. The other crappy thing about Cali. is that there's hella thievin' ass tweekers. Atleast have a nice alarm and/or garage that baby. Not only the tweekers it's the guy that follows you back to your pad so he can steal your shit in a few weeks.

[ef9turbo]

any cops in the east bay sucks

and cops in SJ suck even more

oakland has soooo many problems they dont even bother dealing with modded cars

YEP!!! as long you don't do something stupid like high revving or speeding in front of a cop, or running into a wall then you're koo... oakland is not that bad.... i like it here, cops don't harrass you like the other cities mentioned above... i got pulled over down in antioch/brentwood area 2 times with my old crx and it was basically stock and primered black and it wasn't even lowered... damn cops.

[hondalover22]

On a side note from the re-post from Honda-tech. I asked a state ref and he said LPG systems have to be a free fab unit. No hookin' forklift mixer up to you intake or somethin'. He also said that I'd have to take it to Napa, the city. That's a distance from Modesto. I'm gonna actually call the corect agency to get specifics though. A lpg conversion is not that hard. At least on n/a. If I do it you can come and borrow my motor and then we'll just pass it around so everyone can be C.A.R.B. exempt up in here.

Also I'm so scared of a loud BOV here. I'd definetly run some DSM 1g crap if I were FI. Cops all over Cali are asses. The other prob is many cities call CHP for things. I.E. they think you're up to something and the assisting officer is CHP and they aint dumb. I'd still say bring it here as is tho. The other crappy thing about Cali. is that there's hella thievin' ass tweekers. Atleast have a nice alarm and/or garage that baby. Not only the tweekers it's the guy that follows you back to your pad so he can steal your shit in a few weeks.

I hate fucking thieves. their bad here in Oklahoma too, but I have a garage here. I guess I'll drive it there to cali with the OK tag and see how that goes, I want a place with a garage but it might cost me, who knows. thanks again man, keep this shit coming good info....

[d-ranged]

they dyno your car, sniffer in the tailpipe, info goes straight from smog center computer to dmv,but i got a hook up for 150.00 passed no problem. their are ways around everything. good luck

[D til Death]

They don't actually dyno the car but it is on rollers. Maybe if the place is a dyno shop too. Don't be that scared of the thieves, just keep your eyes open. Like I said worse comes to worse you could craigslist that bitch when you get here or Ebay it outta state. I'd drive it for as long as I could with Ok plates, 'til I got pulled over and given a ticket for being here too long anyway. You could even tell the cop you got the license because you drive back and forth between states.

[amarok]

Where i live i mostly get hassled by one officer over my exhaust... its not even loud he just sees the way it looks and notices its "modified". And that is a $130 ticket.

[NastyHabitzCRX]

E-Cutout to a stock exhaust FTMFW!!!!amen to that brotha!:beer:

[hondalover22]

gotta love it.

[speedfoos]

Damn. This was 5 more pages of reasons to NOT to move to Cali. Good luck on all this crap man.

[hondalover22]

ha, thanks

[crazyxzer0]

Damn. This was 5 more pages of reasons to NOT to move to Cali. Good luck on all this crap man.


seriously..

But i love my state :bravo:

[ardevas09]

cali isnt bad...

[SupraRXZ]

cali isnt bad...

if you own a domestic

[cory jordan]

*synethsized voice*.opening to 2pacs song.... california love.

[ardevas09]

i've lived here for roughly 3 years with 0 problems...

[crazyxzer0]

21 years and i had a few runs with the law. lol

It just really depends how you protray your car exterior attributes. My stock looking car isnt doubled looked but if my roommate's cf hood turbo red integra w/ huge OUTKAST (his crew) stickers on the car will instantly be pulled over.

[killer_D]

man fuck cali... i live in fresno and we have a strict enforcement to... popo takes pictures of your engine mod and when you go to court, you just can't say it was stock... then popo pulls out the picture he took of your engine with all the mods and your screw...
if you have smog legal shit... they still don't care... they'll tell you to ref it again anyways...
pigs are crackin down on out of state licence plates... if it's not cali stamped... your fucked...
pigs here are learning there shit so beware if you live in the san joaqin valley... caught in a race or spectator= equals car impound 30 days + jail time + $k fine...
FORGET SMOG MAN DON'T MAKE IT A BIG DEAL... you'll be alright...WORRY ABOUT THOSE FUK** CAR THIEVES BRO.
GOOD LUCK!!!
i don't think no one said this yet...but,
WELCOME TO CALI

[hondalover22]

Thanks man, Im liking it here so far. Just been here about 2weeks now. my car is still in Oklahoma so Im still trying to get how things roll down here. my friend with his 11 sec supra has lived here for 10 years with no problems but his car also looks stock (1984), he has told me just to sell the civic and buy something else cause hondas in cali are number one targets here for cops and thevies. but I think Im going to keep my civic and find some other car to drive daily. still in the thought process tho, Ill keep you guys informed

Thanks for all the help.

[20civic00]

wait so am i gona have problems passing cali smog with a d15b vtec?

[Toddnos]

wait so am i gona have problems passing cali smog with a d15b vtec?
i dont think so.
zc motors are supposedly illegal.

[20civic00]

in Kern County we dont really have asshole cops that pull you over and have you pop your hood. my buddy had his hood popped but he ran stop sign and then argued about it with the motor cop. so the cop decided to lift his hood up and give him a warning for having illegal i/e

[hondalover22]

hum,d15b vtec engine are not for sure, but it would be nice.
anyway its seems t be pretty nice here and not too my problems so far.

[20civic00]

i think cali is fine. the cops around here dont make you pop your hood unless your bein an ass to them. and i've been pulled over 4 times haha