Shifter question

[spawnd]

I have searched but have found nothing on a del sol shifter fitting into an EG6. So the question is will a stock shifter fit into an EG6?

[transzex]

Civic del Sol......
Civic 4 door.....
Acura Integra....

think for a moment

[spawnd]

ok...then the other question is the del sol stock shifter throw shorter then and stock EG6 throw? i had a del sol but it has been 4 years sence i got ride of it and i don't remember

[The_Acid_Beaver]

Very slightly, but not very noticeable. The dual bend integra shifters have a shorter throw stock.

[Richie_A_19]

If you want a SS, buy a SS.

[spawnd]

i have an ebay one...i just want a better one.

[Richie_A_19]

a shifter is a shifter.

WHat is it you are looking for?? Better feel?? Buy a weighted shift knob.

[spawnd]

I will try that then. The biggest thing i guess i am looking for is having the shifter as close to me, at least 3rd, 4ht and 5th. 5th felt like it was in left field stock, it is a little better now but when I had my del sol it was all right there where.

[Richie_A_19]

Thats because the sol was a smaller cabin. Everything seemed closer because it was.

[DirtyDC4]

The throw between a stock Civic shifter and stock del Sol shifter is about the same. The actual length of the del Sol shifter is shorter, about 1 1/2 inches shorter.

If you want something closer to you, get the FLP shifter.

[spawnd]

who makes good weighted knobs? i know greddy and skunk2 make them, but who else makes them?

[99EJ6T]

i got the fix.... sit up in the seat, no gansta leaning ftw!

but really, i had a sk2 duel bend w/ sk2 knob. it was really really nice and smooth.

now i have a stock shifter and si knob w/boot, and it is just as sweet. just not as short, but i have noticed i don't seem to "grind" third as much as i use to when "quick" shifting is required during trips down the 1/4.

[4Door Life]

phuck short shifter's, they are actually bad for your transmission...

use a stock one from a teggy and have a nice day...

[transzex]

phuck short shifter's, they are actually bad for your transmission...


How you figure?

Shifter length doesn't hurt the tranny, the idiot operator does.

[hatchnthoughts]

How you figure?

Shifter length doesn't hurt the tranny, the idiot operator does.

hahaha... all a shifter does is control what gear you are in via shift linkage... its not part of the moving transmission parts at all so how could it damage em? idiot operator- grind em till you find em

[transzex]

Most people think they can shift just as fast with a short throw shifter.

a tranny with synchros is only gonna shift so fast.

Get a short shifter + learn to slow down your shifts = happy tranny.

Side note, short shifter = less leverage.

I just realized I haven't broken a shifter fork since using a Edelbrock short shifter.

Weird.

[The_Acid_Beaver]

Blox makes a decent Skunk2 Knob knock-off.

[4Door Life]

How you figure?

Shifter length doesn't hurt the tranny, the idiot operator does.

from all the info i gatherd up... this sums it up nicely...

The problem with short shifters:
1. The aftermarket wants you to believe that the solution to the problem is shifting faster. 'Short shifters' do this by decreasing the shift throw, allowing you to feel like you are shifting faster. In reality, the transmission regulates how fast you can shift, not the shifter. Shifting too fast causes synchro wear ('crunching' between shifts), and forcing the shifter into gear (easy to do on short shifters) bends or breaks the shift forks inside the transmission.
2. 'Short shifters' are all shorter (height wise) than the stock shifter. While this may look 'cool' or give the illusion of 'performance', it is the furthest thing from the truth. The stock shifter is too far away from the steering wheel to provide proper shifting and steering techniques in the first place. So the worst thing to do is move the shifter even farther away from the steering wheel (with a shorter shifter).
3. Most all short shifters are made of aluminum. Aluminum is inexpensive and easy to manufacture, but it is soft and easily broken. There are many cases where even expensive short shifters from reputable companies shear off during shifts, in some cases causing over revving and engine damage. Check out the "big name" short shifter that sheared off at the threads below:
http://www.fastlineperformance.com/images/bg_brokenshifter.jpg (http://www.fastlineperformance.com/images/bg_heatshield.jpg)
(click picture to enlarge)

Steel is a better material due to its strength, and won't shear like aluminum short shifters. But steel short shifters still suffer the same basic design flaws as aluminum ones.
4. The other problem with aluminum is weight. Due to their lightness, aluminum short shifters transfer engine and transmission vibration directly to the driver. The stock shifter is made of steel, so its weight helps dampen the annoying vibrations and rattling expected with aluminum short shifters. A few steel short shifters are available, but again, all short shifters suffer the same basic design flaws.

5. Aluminum short shifters upset the counterbalance of the shift linkage. The shifter is connected to the transmission via the shift linkage, so when you shift you are moving both the shifter and the linkage. The stock shifter feels so smooth because its steel construction provides increased weight to counterbalance the weight of the linkage. Aluminum short shifters feel much worse because the weight balance of the shifter and the linkage has been upset. Shifting is now 'bottom-heavy' with a lighter shifter moving a heavier linkage.
6. Short shifters feel notchy, due to a combination of factors (weight, drastically shorter throw, etc). But another reason is the linkage bearings. Most short shifters use the same linkage bearings - metal 'roller blade' bearings that make shifts feel notchy and rough. Shift feel worsens as the bearings wear. The stock shifter uses rubber bushings that help dampen vibrations, but the rubber deforms easily and deteriorates quickly, making shifting very sloppy.

Better control starts with a better shifter:
The problems outlined help explain why many people remove their aftermarket short shifter after breaking them or being unhappy with their performance (or lack of). Most opt just to keep their stock shifter to begin with because of the notchiness and rattling attributed with short shifters.

The stock shifter has an excellent feel and throw, and does not cause transmission damage, but due to its height does not allow your hands to stay on the steering wheel as much as possible. Besides wasting time with every reach for the shifter, you also sacrifice vehicle control on the street and track (where it matters the most).
You do not need a short shifter to shift faster - the stock shifter throw is fast enough (too fast sometimes). And you certainly don't need to reduce steering control with a shorter shifter (height wise).
What you need is a better shifter.

[civicpwr1]

i have a gsr shifter and a skunk2 knob on my car. i love it.

[H2Bcivic]

i always new short shifters were bad on trannys but i still always end up having one on my car! hahah

[hatchnthoughts]

i have never seen a use for a short shifter, i still beat the crap out of other cars without it :) maybe i just have more experience throwing around the big rod. maybe stock shifter makes some feel inadequate? lol sorry im tired