Bomz Coilovers

[shorty_du_op]

(This application will be for a '91 CRX DX)

They any good? They're on eBay for like $45 right now. I know "you get what you pay for" but I'm under the impress that Bomz is a respectable company.

Also, what shock/strut combination is reccomended when lowering a car? Any out there that work really well? or ones that suck and I should stay away from?

[91civicZC]

I have to post this becouse I work for a suspension company :D

These are not "Coilovers", this is a "Sleave over" and no matter what you use, they are garbage. I dont even care if you buy the coilovers that the company I work for make, for god sake just dont buy these.

A REAL coilover is made as a shock and spring together with the shock having a threaded housing. A sleave over is a thin peiece fitting over a shock and spring combo of your choice. The problem here is that you are not only pushing the shock out of its range (making the car ride like crap and usually blowing the shock within months) but neither the shock and spring you will be using were developed to work together, taking into account ride hights, weight of the vehicle, what the vehicle is used for, spring rates ect ect, like a real coilover setup does. The company I work for builds individiual solutions for each application. Shocks are individually valved for each application and each kit is made in house by our factory in Germany.

If you are looking for somthing REALLY cheap that will lower the car, slap theses on and get ready for the crappiest ride of your life. If you want a car that handles properly and can be lowered, look into a real coilover and not this garbage. A real coilover is pricy, but then again, as most people here will agree, "do it right the first time" will save you alot in the end.

If you want more info on the company I work for, PM me. If not keep looking around and checking out real coilover companys. KW, Tein, ect ect.

[Honda4VW]

Lets all give a hand to 91civicZC for his utterly correct and straightforward explanation of the commonly known "coilover"!

[91civicZC]

lol Im not sure if that was sarcastic or not :?:

[Honda4VW]

Not sarcastic, honestly

[91civicZC]

Well alright then! :lol:

Youd be suprised how many people dont know anything about a real coilover setup. As well, how many people think coilovers ride like crap becouse they think "coilovers" are "sleaveovers".

Really, a real and quality made and valved coilover will ride better than your stock suspension. Handling and comfort, yes it is posible.

[Honda4VW]

I totally agree, it really takes a little common sense to figure out what a sleeve over is and what it will eventually do. I am sure there are some sleeve overs that work alright, but most are cheap and are there to look good for cheap. But all I can picture is installing them, going a couple thousand miles, and just getting loose. What a disaster. That is why most states try to stop people from putting aftermarket parts on their vehicles, especially imports. A majority put cheap inferior parts and using them like they are real race proven parts. It does not take much failure at 100+ MPH to cause a lot of harm. I think most here can agree with that!

[91civicZC]

I didnt even touch on saftey just couse I dont even want to think about it.

I have to admit, years ago I too had a sleave over. I realized what a huge mistake it was before I even put them on. I blew one shock within 2 weeks. I was lucky that my sleave overs acually seized to the shocks, but a scary thought none the less. It amazes me that people are willing to put there life in the hands of a $45 product. Kinda scary.

[krazyrican76]

Yup, there is a big diff. But if you still go with the cheapo things, remember to cut your bump stops...

[Eee Pee]

...all of this depends on the shock the spring is being paired to...

Up to 500lb springs on Konis are good. Very good.

[D16Z6racing]

On cheap springs/sleeves, I've seen the sleeve tear in half.

Just something for ya to think about.

[Goldenboy]

there are a couple things that you can't get thirfty on when it comes to your car.
1. Paint. you pay for what you get. YOu get a different paintjob when you go to mayco, then lets say a painter that charges 2000 and you have to be on a waiting list
2. suspension. I've seen customers that buy cheap drop springs or adjustable springs offline or from the magazines, and the spring itself as an irregular coil. Meaning that it's not equal thickness throught the spring. By this i don't mean a progressive rate. I mean if you look at one side of the spring it will be thicker in material then another. And if you've ever played with a spring, what happens when you squeeze the spring from one side and not the other? The spring compresses more on one side then the other. And that is what could happen when you buy a cheap spring and install it in your car. OF COURSE there are going to be those people that bought cheap springs and got away with it with no problems. But are you willing to take that risk of having one or more sides of your car being lopsided?
If you need a good deal on springs PM me I can set you up with a good price.

[bigrob2308]

after reading this i was a little curious with a few things.
1. will lowering springs (not coilovers or sleeves) ruin your shocks?
2. where can i find the right kind of coilovers for my car?

i have an 88 integra and it is very hard to find springs and such for my car. i found some but i didn't know what kind of quality they were, so i am asking you guys. the link is http://www.shox.com/appguide/shoxshop/productsdisplay.php . i am specifically looking at the B&G springs, Suspension Techniques springs, and the Ground Control coil-over kit. i just wanted your opinion on these. i have also found some eibach springs that would lower my car 1.5 inches. would these mess my shocks up (they are not coil-overs).

thanks,
rob

[gftgrill]

yes I would like to know this as well. in spring I was going to lower my car using eibach sportlines with tokico illumina's and use a progress group camber kit.

are lowering springs really that bad? or is just the cheap springs that are bad?

[f00ker]

my stock springs are way too bouncy, i got a set of "Zero1 racing (R1)" sleeves that i'm going to put on my stock suspension.



Oh, dont worry, I didn't have to pay for them, I traded my friend some parts from my 88 LX parts car for these.

[91civicZC]

Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted in while, haven't had much time because of work.

Lowering springs aren't BAD by any means. Don’t get me wrong here, I wasn’t talking about lowering springs; I was initially talking about just sleeve overs.

In my mind, any time you lower a car, your springs and shocks should be DEVELOPED to work together. And my ideas on tuning suspensions differ from some, but one thing I think most could agree on is that is that shocks NEED to be tuned to the spring. If you're lowering a car 1 inch or 1.25 inches, and it’s a street car, then no really big deal. Myself, I wouldn’t go lower than that and expect a car to handle, or feel proper at all. It all comes down to tuning really. Am I saying don’t buy lowering springs? No not at all. All I'm saying is that when your lowering a car, and looking for the most performance from it, You HAVE to match your springs and shocks. This of course is more expensive. If you are lowing your daily driven Civic by 1.25 inches, and it will never see a track in its life, then it will never make a difference to you so don’t worry about it. If you are looking for the best performance you can, then it will make a difference. And I would recommend just a lowing spring and a good set of shocks over a sleeve over any day. Personal opinion I guess. :D

Just my 2 cents.

[Tad]

if you want cheap coilover sleeves,
there ARE some that are cheap, AND reliable

arospeed,
i'm not kidding in the least,
i've had mine for well over a year and no problems,
and i've talked to NUMEROUS people with very good experiences with them.

they are very durable, and so far show no signs of wear.
spring rates are 450 front and 350rear (also the springs have held up just fine this whole time).
I got mine for 110 shipped, its not 45 bux.. but you should be able to find a set for under 100 shipped nowadays.

I really do recommend them.
I duno if bauleycivic is on this board, but he frequents honda-tech and superhonda(he made a big minime writeup on honda-tech) and he'll vouch for them also.

but yes, you must match them with a good set of shocks.
modifications to the shock to supply more suspension travel are also highly recommended.

[BseriesKllR]

Im saving for tein coilovers.. :D