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Toddnos
03-19-2007, 12:21 PM
just got back...... my car passed, but failed visual,,because he said i have an illegal motor,...nooooo not this shit again...fuck..its a sohc nonvtec zc,,,wtf!!!!!!!!!

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 12:22 PM
the fucker said the zc isnt legal. it has to say d16 on the block he said...sounds like bs to me......

modsHXcivi
03-19-2007, 12:24 PM
Boy this is the only reason im glad i dont live in cali .....

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 12:27 PM
the thing is..that very same motor passed smog a month ago in a different hatch..its our smog motor for cryin out loud...we keep it just to pass swapped cars....wtf? Is the zc legal or not?

S Q A D
03-19-2007, 12:35 PM
hey douche... wanna make a trip down to Glendale/Eagle Rock?

I have a middle eastern dude who will hook your ass up

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 12:36 PM
how much

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:09 PM
bump

myHonda1
03-19-2007, 01:13 PM
try a different shop...

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:15 PM
thats the plan,,im goin to the same shop that passed that motor in another hatch a month ago...hopefully nothing is reported beteween shops about failed cars...

steve98ex
03-19-2007, 01:16 PM
if you haven't taken the engine through the carb process then yeah its not a legal motor. try other shops though, somebody won't notice

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:18 PM
if im gonna go through the BAR/CARB process, i will put a swap in it...im gonna try another shop. Just cost 40 bux a pop.

myHonda1
03-19-2007, 01:21 PM
damn! 40 bux...

it's $21 for inspection in NY, but we don't have to go through smog or emissions with obd1. It's more of a visual thing...

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:22 PM
ya, they put you on a sort of dyno thing, and run it to third gear

steve98ex
03-19-2007, 01:28 PM
a dyno thing? for the carb process or smog?

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:31 PM
a dyno thing? for the carb process or smog?
smog test

steve98ex
03-19-2007, 01:34 PM
weird, my car has never on something like that for a smog test, maybe just a socal thing

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:35 PM
yep, even at arco smog pro they have the little dyno. they run you to 25 mph...

S Q A D
03-19-2007, 01:46 PM
weird, my car has never on something like that for a smog test, maybe just a socal thing

your car has never been hooked up to the rollers? and had a sniffer tube inserted into the muffler to check for emissions?

replica
03-19-2007, 01:47 PM
Write D16 on the motor and sand down the ZC spot?

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:48 PM
Write D16 on the motor and sand down the ZC spot?
lol....im not sure that would work,,,,

jimmyb34
03-19-2007, 01:48 PM
if im not mistaken i thought someone on here posted up that in cali the sohc zc and d15b jdm motors were approved to be oem replacement motors as long as everything emissions wise is in tact...

Toddnos
03-19-2007, 01:49 PM
if im not mistaken i thought someone on here posted up that in cali the sohc zc and d15b jdm motors were approved to be oem replacement motors as long as everything emissions wise is in tact...
thats what i thought..I knew there was gonna be trouble, when i seen him get on the phone, and looking with his flashlight at the engine code........

cory jordan
03-19-2007, 01:50 PM
i know the d15b is with the p28. ecu and z6 manifold. to pass bar .

steve98ex
03-19-2007, 03:03 PM
your car has never been hooked up to the rollers? and had a sniffer tube inserted into the muffler to check for emissions?

sniffer yes but not the rollers.

Haysoos
03-19-2007, 03:08 PM
When they smogged my car in santa barbara (2005), they just tossed a sniffer in the tail pipe, and used a bar to hold the pedal to 2500, no rollers. *shrug* is it new?

@todd:
C'mon, its probably allowed on a technicality that he's too lazy to look up. Call a few shops, just tell them what you got and ask them if it'll be a problem. When one of them says it isn't, go to them.

d-ranged
03-19-2007, 04:40 PM
i passed mine with a zc motor never seen state ref. with ebay header ,and intake, and aftermarket exhaust. emmisions passed ,but like you said the visual had to be overlooked for 180.00. only way you don't have to dyno is if you have full time awd. the zc is a legal swap ,because it is has a usdm equivalent which is the z6 you just have to have the four wire o2 sensor, and obd1 ecu converswion harnesses, are illegal mods also. ,and all the sensors ,and emmissions equipment of the z6 have to be in place. i have a book sitting here that says so, but you first have to take it to the state ref. sso he can make sure there are no illegal mods on it. so it has to be stock to the standard of the model year of the engine your putting in.

robrico5333
03-19-2007, 05:12 PM
so is a mini me not legal or not d15 block with a z6 head

dkid15
03-19-2007, 05:23 PM
Ny is sweeeet. They check for cel and inspect for brakes and crap. Then you get your tag. Pre 1995 cars dont have to be checked if im correct but i could be wrong.

dkid15
03-19-2007, 05:24 PM
Ny is sweeeet. They check for cel and inspect for brakes and crap. Then you get your tag. Pre 1995 cars dont have to be checked if im correct but i could be wrong.

cory jordan
03-19-2007, 05:39 PM
teh double post owns joo!...

cali is bad. i guess the central valley just got second worse air in nation. fucking bowl of smog soup i tell you. people who move here end up with asthma and shit like that. they are getting tougher here on the carb legal and bar'd motors.. i didnt pass visual because i didnt have my greddy kit sticker. even tho it says 92-95. and its in a 89 crx si.

robrico5333
03-19-2007, 05:58 PM
moving to socal in walnut need to know if a mini swap is ok

d-ranged
03-19-2007, 06:29 PM
moving to socal in walnut need to know if a mini swap is ok

i don't even think they are up to speed on that yet i think you can squeak by as long as your emmisions pass.

Toddnos
03-20-2007, 09:17 AM
fuck this car...i went to the dmv, and the new title app didnt go through, i have to track this bitch that sold me the car down, and have her fill it all out again...fuck this car im done..........car overheated on the smog dyno////fuck

cory jordan
03-20-2007, 03:02 PM
have it forged. i told them that i couldnt/ wasnt going to waste my time having the guy sign this again for my crx . they said they couldnt do it with out. i told them ill just walk out side and sign it, and come back in an hour and you will never know the difference..
. she said let me get my manager. she looked on the back and he had really signed it on the back. just not the front. she said well ok thats fine. but next time make sure. he signs both
and did they put the fan on for ya on the rollers?

d-ranged
03-20-2007, 07:52 PM
true dat forge that shit that's what i did the only way to get busted is if she contests to it. chances of that are slim.

Toddnos
03-21-2007, 07:27 AM
fuck it...car gone.
You got to know when to fold em.....

Toddnos
03-21-2007, 07:36 AM
im gonna start a new thread, but i got another hatch....a red 90 si, clean as fuck, with a b20/cable gsr trans....bwaahhahhahahahhahhaaaa..oh and black gsr leathers......oh ya

jimmyb34
03-21-2007, 08:46 AM
werd get up some pics

myHonda1
03-21-2007, 08:49 AM
im gonna start a new thread, but i got another hatch....a red 90 si, clean as fuck, with a b20/cable gsr trans....bwaahhahhahahahhahhaaaa..oh and black gsr leathers......oh ya

Nice! did u trade the other one for it?

Toddnos
03-21-2007, 09:10 AM
Nice! did u trade the other one for it?something like that....trade plus money.
b20z
blox IM
megan 4-1 header
high flow cat
magnaflow muffler
2.5 piping
gsr cable trans
ebay short shifter
slotted rotors
15 inch rotas
ground control coilovers
tokico blues
its pretty much a done car, besides the old factory fading red paint.
only thing im gonna change is the grant steering wheel, and maybe some cams+ tune

myHonda1
03-21-2007, 09:12 AM
something like that....trade plus money.
b20z
blox IM
megan 4-1 header
high flow cat
magnaflow muffler
2.5 piping
gsr cable trans
ebay short shifter
slotted rotors
15 inch rotas
ground control coilovers
tokico blues
its pretty much a done car, besides the old factory fading red paint.
only thing im gonna change is the grant steering wheel, and maybe some cams+ tune

sounds sweet dude! :TU: get some pics up!

Toddnos
03-21-2007, 09:40 AM
digi is out of batteries..i will get some.

d-ranged
03-22-2007, 08:49 PM
wow thats nice. now your ef bound right on.

Levi
03-22-2007, 09:35 PM
Damn, that really sucks ass. I am so glad I dont live down there. I live in 1 of 2 counties here in Cali that dont require smog checks and inspections. You have to pass once when you buy the car, thats it. If I had to pass emissions, I would be so beyond fucked. 3 of my 4 cars wouldnt pass in any way.

flatfourfan
03-26-2007, 05:30 AM
Man I love this continent that I stay on......non of this bs.