FIREARM owners PLEASE READ

[ZackieDarko]

long story short


new years eve 2005 my girlfriend and i were at her mothers house (mom was outa town we were watching the house) and my girlfriends X, (psychotic mother fucker), who had made SEVERAL threats to beat me into a coma and kill me just because i was with his X (can somebody say issues?), broke into my girlfriends house with a knive and came very close to ending both of our lives

he is geting out of prison (serving 2 years on felony breaking and entering and 2 counts felony battery) this year and if he trys to pull this bull shit again im gonna be ready for his ass


now you know the jist of the story

im looking at geting a Desert Eagle 9mm but im not 100% on it...any of you suggset anything else? i wana get something i can cary around with me (consealed weapons permit ftw!)



suggestions are very welcome

[mikeD16Z6]

Wow what a crazy mofo.

But for home defense, nothing beats a good shotgun.

If you really want a pistol I'd get something smaller/lighter. Maybe a Glock or a Walther P99.

[Davy Jones]

Shotgun would be the ideal choice if you have room to keep it somewhere readily available, or a .45 caliber handgun. Slow big bullets are want you want, not piercing little 9mm'ers.

[kzoobaggs]

agreed i would get something light as well plus if it is small you can hide it better.

[Toddnos]

+1 for shotty gat

[Toddnos]

or you could be like me, and get an assault rifle, and shoot him through the walls of the house...and through his engine block.

[4Door Life]

you need stopping power...

40 or 45, they make them small enough to conceal very easy... a 9mm may not do the job after one shot, you need something that will tho, and use rounds that say "personal defense" on the box, if it gos to court, that will side in your favor that you intended to defend not kill...

im rockin a 40 s&w, i love it...

[slowex98]

my dad carries a glock 45 but I don't like it...a gun will do the purpose of stopping a person from doing what you don't want them to do so I would say go to your local firearm store and find the gun that best fits you hand and get that bcause it is hard to hit something if the gun doesn't fit you hand... and for home use I would a 12 gage shotgun with a legal short barrel because if you are in close quarters the shot from the shot gun will not spread out enough that is why the police use short barrels I would also recomend a pump shotgun very intimidating hope this helps

[Toddnos]

sks ftw

[superdewey58]

u cud always have a 12 gauge with an illegal short barrel and a legal one

[Toddnos]

i also have a little duece five auto, that is pretty powerfull for a small piece...that would be good for the gf

[ryan89crx]

you need this...

Smith and Wesson .50 caliber pistol. pretty much a fucking cannon :wink:

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/tb_gun-lg-1.jpg

[Toddnos]

^thats not a first time gun owner weapon....more than likely he will blow his foot off or something

[ryan89crx]

^thats not a first time gun owner weapon....more than likely he will blow his foot off or somethinggotta learn to use it somehow

lol :P

[Importfan1]

that is one hell of a fuckin hand gun

[slowex98]

i only like guns like 44 magnums and 357 magnums have about 20-30 guns and I would get a dirty harry gun they are very scarry

[Toddnos]

I want a machine gun pistol...i see them in the movies....one squeeze, and the clip is empty..any one know about those guns?

[ryan89crx]

I want a machine gun pistol...i see them in the movies....one squeeze, and the clip is empty..any one know about those guns?there was a vid on Youtube showing a guy shoot one of those. he went through a 16rd clip in about 2 seconds

he also had one of those TommyGun style clip/barrell thingys with like 100rds, now that was fucking cool

[slowex98]

I want a machine gun pistol...i see them in the movies....one squeeze, and the clip is empty..any one know about those guns?

you can make one just have a gun smith fille down the firing pin atleast I think that is how it is done, and it becomes a full auto I have a 22 rifle like that it is fun to shoot also have a 9mm assault rifle that has a thing to change it back and forth

[88cr-rex]

If this is to be your first gun, I would probably lean towards a glock 19 (9mm). But your best bet is to go to a range that rents out guns and shoot some. A .45 is a little much for me and seemed a little cumbersome (it was a ruger). Honestly, after shooting a Taurus millenium pro .40, it was like having the best of both worlds for a great price. Its decently light, shoots very easy and its only $320 at the local range.

[Toddnos]

i saw a gun at the gun shop..called a cat .10..its bigger than a nine, and has a super short barrel...for your pocket

[slowex98]

If this is to be your first gun, I would probably lean towards a glock 19 (9mm). But your best bet is to go to a range that rents out guns and shoot some. A .45 is a little much for me and seemed a little cumbersome (it was a ruger). Honestly, after shooting a Taurus millenium pro .40, it was like having the best of both worlds for a great price. Its decently light, shoots very easy and its only $320 at the local range.

I like the glock 9's also good guns very good first gun and very reliable

[" Low "]

colt 1911 officers model .45 caliber....7+1 capacity

or glock 36 compact carry .45 caliber ....6+1 capacity

[mikeD16Z6]

cool glock vid. full auto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs7rhMudvJw

[Toddnos]

that is sick as fuck omg!
I want that!!!

[4Door Life]

ya, that f-in rules...

[myHonda1]

cool glock vid. full auto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs7rhMudvJw

my new favorite...i want one!

[Toddnos]

highly illegal, but cool

[slebidia]

I like my H&K USP .40. Kinda pricey but a great gun.

[Haysoos]

How is illegal, I'm pretty sure they make a full auto slide, you just have to install it. And they make 20 shot clips, but they are illegal to manufacture anymore. That might be what you are thinking, but it's not illegal to own them, just to make them.

Good gun? They make a hand held .357, you don't get much better than that for personal protection that isn't blatantly obvious (is that a shotgun in your pants, or are crippled?).

[mikeD16Z6]

I like my H&K USP .40. Kinda pricey but a great gun.

cant go wrong with a H&K!!

I'd still take that full auto glock.

[Toddnos]

How is illegal, I'm pretty sure they make a full auto slide, you just have to install it. And they make 20 shot clips, but they are illegal to manufacture anymore. That might be what you are thinking, but it's not illegal to own them, just to make them.

Good gun? They make a hand held .357, you don't get much better than that for personal protection that isn't blatantly obvious (is that a shotgun in your pants, or are crippled?).
it is illegal to own anything that is fully automatic in california, not sure about the rest of the states

[pandorasbox]

fuck all this.. you gotta set up some boobietraps!! Fuckin HOME ALONE style!

[slebidia]

Live by the sword.

Die by the sword.


I say you stab him.

[Toddnos]

stab ftw with a rusty screwdriver

[slebidia]

Ginsu Attack!

[eddcartes]

Live by the sword.

Die by the sword.


I say you stab him.

stab him.
stab him.
stab him.
stab him.
stab him.

[cory jordan]

I want a machine gun pistol...i see them in the movies....one squeeze, and the clip is empty..any one know about those guns?

glock 18c? fully auto pistol

[bunger]

colt 1911 officers model .45 caliber....7+1 capacity

or glock 36 compact carry .45 caliber ....6+1 capacity

^^^ Agreed! I would go with the Glock 36 for a carry weapon and a short barrel 12 gauge pump for home. Everyone knows what racking a shotgun sounds like, so you may not even have to fire.

With whatever you go with, it wouldn't be a bad idea for you and your girl to take some self defense classes, some fire arms classes, etc. Just because you have a gun doesn't mean you'll find yourself in a situation to use it. You may also want to consider a tazer as well.

[green_hornet_96]

Hasn't it been a federal law since the early Depression that owning a fully automatic weapon without a permit is illegal?

I think I saw that on the History channel. Came about from all the banks being robbed by criminals with tommy guns (the gun the military wouldn't buy so the company sold it to the general public).

Need to check it out... that glock was sick!

This thread is very interesting. I've been considering investing in a pistol and permit too. There are times when there is NO replacement for it.

[Haysoos]

it is illegal to own anything that is fully automatic in california, not sure about the rest of the states

LOL, that may be true, but not here! I've seen so many full-auto guns out a the local firing range that holds quarterly machine gun shoots. M1 Carbine, 3008 full auto, kicks like a mutha.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure you have you have your class 3 weapons license. Far from "illegal", because you have to get a driver's license to drive, right?

SELF DEFENSE CLASSES FTW. Seriously, if the guy is wacked, don't expect a gun, or the sound of a shotgun to scare him. He's crazy right? If he is "crazy", its more than likely he won't shoot you while you can't see him, he may not even want to shoot you because it's not "personal" enough. So that means he will try blades or beating first, if he is "crazy", or try to hold you at gunpoint so he can get his jollies off. Isn't psychology fun? Even if I'm dead wrong, self defense classes wouldn't be a bad idea...

[Toddnos]

i dont know karate but i know crazy just ask somebody

[The_Acid_Beaver]

*sighs*

It's cool you want to protect yourself. using a firearm to protect yourself and your property is something I am highly in favor of, however, some of the attitude exhibited in this thread is not very constructive to keeping YOU out of jail, even if you survive another encounter with the jacktard. First off, owning a weapon that fires more than once each time you pull the trigger is generally very, very, very illegal unless you have a Federal Fire Arms Liscense, class III (with very few exceptions).

For home defense, there is VERY little that outperform a simple short barrell 12 gauge pump action (Like an 870) with an extended mag filled with buckshot and a Tritium front sight. Under intense situations at the ranges encountered on most personally own property, it is MUCH harder to miss with a shotgun. However, you MUST, with ANY firearm you wish to use to defend your you MUST practice with it in your house (without ammo, of course), at night, in the dark. If you are NOT familiar with your weapon, carrying it, sighting it, and preparing yourself to kill someone, you should not bother using a firearm and should go with a baseball bat or something similar.

[Toddnos]

*sighs*

.
greater than thou attitude sux

[Haysoos]

*sighs*

It's cool you want to protect yourself. using a firearm to protect yourself and your property is something I am highly in favor of, however, some of the attitude exhibited in this thread is not very constructive to keeping YOU out of jail, even if you survive another encounter with the jacktard. First off, owning a weapon that fires more than once each time you pull the trigger is generally very, very, very illegal unless you have a Federal Fire Arms Liscense, class III (with very few exceptions).

For home defense, there is VERY little that outperform a simple short barrell 12 gauge pump action (Like an 870) with an extended mag filled with buckshot and a Tritium front sight. Under intense situations at the ranges encountered on most personally own property, it is MUCH harder to miss with a shotgun. However, you MUST, with ANY firearm you wish to use to defend your you MUST practice with it in your house (without ammo, of course), at night, in the dark. If you are NOT familiar with your weapon, carrying it, sighting it, and preparing yourself to kill someone, you should not bother using a firearm and should go with a baseball bat or something similar.

Good advice.

Do you have much experience in this area?

[" Low "]

greater than thou attitude sux

x eleventy billion, you bottom feeders...:haha:

[Toddnos]

w3rd up j man

[gpny]

Sorry, but this thread has totally gone out of hand with all the Automatic pistol talk.
He want's a FIRST TIME GUN for self defense.

I've fired a lot of guns and my dad and I collect them, and the 2 guns that we have as primary self defense weapons are a modified .45acp Colt m1991, and a colt king cobra .357 mag... Both are great weapons, HOWEVER, since this is your first time, I would go with a smaller caliber such as the 9mm, or .40.
Specific models that we own and like a LOT, are:
- Browning Hi Power - 13rnd 9mm - Fairly large frame but well balanced and low recoil.
- Sig Sauer P229 - 0.40 - 12rnd - nice handgun and what's cool is that you can drop in a .357SIG barrel if you want a higher velocity round down the line.

I've heard great things arount the Beretta 92 also.

Traits to look for in a first time gun:
- Fairly heavy - (helps keep recoil down)
- High cap magazine (or easy to get high cap mag)
- Common caliber (cheap bullets so you can PRACTICE SHOOTING OFTEN)
- Fairly small caliber (again recoil isn't great for novices)
- Single/Double action (not a DAO) - that way once you cock it and every bullet after will have a nice light trigger pull

Buy it used at a gun shop if you can (just make sure it doesn'y look beat up) - No major knicks, not too much slide play, inpect the recoil buffer, make sure trigger pull is smooth.

As far as bullets - Practice often with cheap FMJ ammo (BRASS CASE - NON CORROSIVE...) We buy 1000-10000 rounds at a time for less than $0.15 per round for 9mm.
For home defense, get HOLLOWPOINT Bullets. When we were using the 9mm as a Primary defense gun, we had it loaded with the GECKO+P rounds. They are excellent if you can find them (but about 1$/round), otherwise, winchester SXT ammo is good, corbon are also good brands...
Every few months or every 3-4 times you go to the range, you should shoot a magazine of you hollowpoint rounds, as they have different characteristics than the practice rounds (it is also a good idea to cycle your magazines if you have a few to keep wear and spring tension even)

Bottom line 9mm and up will be lethal with a good chest shot. The 9mm round was designed to stop a running man in his tracks, and a smaller round like the 9mm will allow an inexperienced shooter to reacquire the target faster after the 1st round goes off...

[Haysoos]

Meh, yeah, it was Holier than thou, but he made some good points. *shrug* The sigh wasn't needed, thats for sure...

[Toddnos]

Meh, yeah, it was Holier than thou, but he made some good points. *shrug* The sigh wasn't needed, thats for sure...
w3rd

[" Low "]

i have a 18 1/2 barrell on the 870 loaded with #8 shot and 000 buckshot
every other shell....and a 7 shot extension...

colt 1911 .45 behind the top of the headboard...

colt trooper mkIII .357 mag in the kitchen/lilving room

"custom" over under 12 ga pistol in the front closet

and a glock 36 as a concealed carry weapon

no one is going to ambush me in any room in my house, other than the shitter...

but then i would just throw my huge ass bong at him and leap for the headboard....

[MiloReaper87]

Woah alot of ppl viewing and posti i stick to home made fire power or a simple flamethrower from any spray can and a simple lighter!!!

[Haysoos]

but then i would just throw my huge ass bong at him and leap for the headboard....

LMAO, death by bong...

[" Low "]

Woah alot of ppl viewing and posti i stick to home made fire power or a simple flamethrower from any spray can and a simple lighter!!!

yeah, try and grab that IN THE DARK, while asleep/waking up to a 300lb 6foot dude coming in your door.....


no fucking way....

[MiloReaper87]

there is the bat and whack across the head or a simple butcher knife!!!

[" Low "]

yeah, ok....

[Levi]

I have a mossberg pump action 12 guage with a legal short barrel for home protection. Go see what fits your hand nicely though like mentioned before. Just make sure to get something that will not wound him, but kill him. Forget letting him live. Also self defense classes are a must. After you get your gun, take it to a firing range and get familiar with it so if you ever do have to use it, you know how.

[bunger]

i have a 18 1/2 barrell on the 870 loaded with #8 shot and 000 buckshot
every other shell....and a 7 shot extension...

colt 1911 .45 behind the top of the headboard...

colt trooper mkIII .357 mag in the kitchen/lilving room

"custom" over under 12 ga pistol in the front closet

and a glock 36 as a concealed carry weapon

no one is going to ambush me in any room in my house, other than the shitter...

but then i would just throw my huge ass bong at him and leap for the headboard....

Time to move your guns now... =)

[Toddnos]

yeah, try and grab that IN THE DARK, while asleep/waking up to a 300lb 6foot dude coming in your door.....


no fucking way....
thas why i keep my pistol close at hand..under my bed

[Toddnos]

LMAO, death by bong...
sounds good

[MiloReaper87]

Sleep with ur pistol in the trigga finger and wake up with ur shit blasted that will suck!!!

[slebidia]

greater than thou attitude sux

Suck it up.

[Toddnos]

Suck it up.
blow me asscaptain:hammer:

[slebidia]

blow me asscaptain:hammer:

You'd like that wouldn't you?

:fag::fruit:

[MiloReaper87]

Eazy on them fukin Roidz man no need to argue!!! (handle ur shit overnite)

[" Low "]

Time to move your guns now... =)

yeah, i'd love to see some one get past

A: my dad home 24/7
B: erica can group the glock and 1911 - 2'' at 40 yards
C: the dog....
D: all of the above...

and that is just if i am not home......i hear tree limbs/twigs break while i sleep.....

go ahead and make your way in the door, i DARE you....lol

[Toddnos]

You'd like that wouldn't you?

:fag::fruit:
smooch smooch

[ZackieDarko]

thanks for the advice guys


some of the posts have been very helpful..and some..well

this will be my FIRST firearm i need something i can cary without anybody knowing i have it on me but at the same time it has to drop the fucker with no more then 2 rounds

anybody know of any ranges that will let me rent a/some/a few guns to test out in the Seattle/Bellevue/Renton/Kent/Auburn/Tacoma area?

looks like self defense classes are going to be seriously looked into too

keep the good advice coming, thanks :)

[Haysoos]

In that case, start with a compact 9mm, glock or beretta would be my choices. After you learn how to shoot well and are completely comfortable, you could move up to a .45 of some kind, but I don't know shot about those. All I know is, I'm fairly accurate with my brothers glock 9mm, but I suck with his S&W .40 cal.

[slebidia]

thanks for the advice guys


some of the posts have been very helpful..and some..well

this will be my FIRST firearm i need something i can cary without anybody knowing i have it on me but at the same time it has to drop the fucker with no more then 2 rounds

anybody know of any ranges that will let me rent a/some/a few guns to test out in the Seattle/Bellevue/Renton/Kent/Auburn/Tacoma area?

looks like self defense classes are going to be seriously looked into too

keep the good advice coming, thanks :)

I hope you plan on getting a concealed carry permit before packing...

[K2e2vin]

I didn't read the thread but just the original first post. If you're going to get a Desert Eagle, get the .50AE :) But seriously, those are too big for defense; look into those Smith and Wesson Sigma series, the Springfield XD40 or 1911A1(shorter than the original 1911).

I'm not a fan of the Glock because the two that I shot jammed a lot. Get whatever pistol you want that fits you, and train with it.

[S Q A D]

Slow big bullets are want you want, not piercing little 9mm'ers.


skip a 9mm

get a .40 or a .45

[areskzc]

Glock G21

[mikeD16Z6]

More important than the gun is your marksmanship. You're not going to stop anybody by missing. Go to the range, get your sights dialed in, and practice.

[green_hornet_96]

More important than the gun is your marksmanship. You're not going to stop anybody by missing. Go to the range, get your sights dialed in, and practice.

Right on. I am awful with a pistol. Not horrible with a small-caliber rifle, with my .22 I used to keep a 6" group on the iron sights and a little less on the scope at 50 yards. Shotgun, meh maybe within 6" at 25 yards on a 12ga and within about 10" at 50 yd with the .410. That was two years ago. A pistol though, I need a lot of practice and a 550-round brick of .22 cal is under ten bucks at wal-mart.

#1 reason why my first pistol will be a .22. Something easier to get used to before stepping up to a mule.

[remoer]

i tell you the best thing to do is go and buy a machete. get some sand paper like a fine grit, sand the blade and let is sit outside in th rain/damp ground till rust builds up. bring it in take a rag and wipe the blade dry but you can see the rust. sharpen that fucker, and wait. when the fucker comes over, don't try to hack anything off just make sure you give him a nice slash. oh once that rust settles in the nice cut. he'll have something to remember for a very long time. lol. that's how some of the hill billys in puerto rico do.they might not have a gun in the house but you can count on your life that every house hold has a machete there. lol.

they say the pen is mightier than the sword. i say fuck the pen, cause you can DIE BY THE SWORD. - Tom Araya, SLAYER!

[modsHXcivi]

Fuck it go mid evil on his ass......

http://www.kultofathena.com/images%5CYK0413_l.jpg

[" Low "]

Fuck it go midevil on his ass......

http://www.kultofathena.com/images%5CYK0413_l.jpg

into the hardcore gay scene are we......?


i cant say i am shocked......:haha:

[modsHXcivi]

into the hardcore gay scene are we......?


i cant say i am shocked......:haha:

Bastard ...you weren't supposed to tell and one :hammer:

[civic97]

into the hardcore gay scene are we......?


i cant say i am shocked......:haha:

bahahahaha

[4Door Life]

.40 s&w model 99...

all you need, but have it when you need it, thats the hard part...

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/292/im001622oh7.jpg

[superdewey58]

yeah, i'd love to see some one get past

A: my dad home 24/7
B: erica can group the glock and 1911 - 2'' at 40 yards
C: the dog....
D: all of the above...

and that is just if i am not home......i hear tree limbs/twigs break while i sleep.....

go ahead and make your way in the door, i DARE you....lol

just to proove how stealthy i am i will travel half way across the country,.... steal yo SHOES. and u wont notice till im back in the good ole FL

[Agent T]

dude a Desert Eagle would definately fuck his world up haha, just for the hell of it im wanting a DE .50, bullet tooth tony style. but for a starter i agree, a simple smaller handgun is best, you dont have to have a strong gun to immobilize someone, just take out a kneecap, if he still comes at you, the other kneecap, if that doesnt stop him, fuck it, make it fatal.

[bunger]

yeah, i'd love to see some one get past

A: my dad home 24/7
B: erica can group the glock and 1911 - 2'' at 40 yards
C: the dog....
D: all of the above...

and that is just if i am not home......i hear tree limbs/twigs break while i sleep.....

go ahead and make your way in the door, i DARE you....lol

A little off topic, but I actually prefer geese for home protection over dogs. Reasons being:

1. Dogs are easier to shoot without missing.
2. Dogs won't always bark when another dog has been killed.
3. Dogs are easier to bribe.
4. Dogs cost more to upkeep.

Info given to me by an ex-boss who is in some kind of special ops.

[" Low "]

yeah, i see those....

but who has a goose, IN THE HOUSE....?

lol

[" Low "]

just to proove how stealthy i am i will travel half way across the country,.... steal yo SHOES. and u wont notice till im back in the good ole FL

only have one pair of shoes, and i am outta town right now.....


and i aint sayin where

[bunger]

yeah, i see those....

but who has a goose, IN THE HOUSE....?

lol

LOL... yea... the geese stay outside... humm that's the ultimate combo, k9 inside, poultry outside. =)

[sxy_rexi]

very true. i'd imagine the geese would start making noise and alert the dog way far in advance.

[gpny]

dude a Desert Eagle would definately fuck his world up haha, just for the hell of it im wanting a DE .50, bullet tooth tony style. but for a starter i agree, a simple smaller handgun is best, you dont have to have a strong gun to immobilize someone, just take out a kneecap, if he still comes at you, the other kneecap, if that doesnt stop him, fuck it, make it fatal.

I have a DE with 6 barrels and 3 calibers... the .50AE is banned at the range we go to, so we only use the .357, and .44mag calibers. Those 2 calibers have very reasonable recoil because the gun is so heavy and has the gas??? recoil (forget the exact term, but it's the same type of recoil mechanism the AR15 has)... I've heard the .50AE shell kicks hard though...

[ZackieDarko]

the .40 S&W looks nice

whats that run?

[torturedsol]

buying a gun for protection is cool and all. Smaller home use I'de say 12-guage or a little 22 for shotgun use or glock 9mm for a handgun. I have a 9mm, yes it's got an automatic option on it but it rarely gets used.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/celicasupraxx/Nine20002.jpg
Muh cheap piece

Anywho, keep in mind that there's a statute in some state laws that limit how you can defend yourself. Kinda hard to explain, it's kinda like if a dude breaks in your house and has doesn't have a weapon but you blast him with a 357 hand-cannon in self-defence you could be lookin at jail time. It's always a good idea to check your local laws on such things. You don't wanna go to jail cause of some assclown

[bunger]

Anywho, keep in mind that there's a statute in some state laws that limit how you can defend yourself. Kinda hard to explain, it's kinda like if a dude breaks in your house and has doesn't have a weapon but you blast him with a 357 hand-cannon in self-defence you could be lookin at jail time. It's always a good idea to check your local laws on such things. You don't wanna go to jail cause of some assclown

Or buy a 'drop gun' to plant on the dead guys body... dead men tell no tales.

[Toddnos]

dead men tell no tales.
yaaaaaarrrrr

[eddcartes]

i tell you the best thing to do is go and buy a machete. get some sand paper like a fine grit, sand the blade and let is sit outside in th rain/damp ground till rust builds up. bring it in take a rag and wipe the blade dry but you can see the rust. sharpen that fucker, and wait. when the fucker comes over, don't try to hack anything off just make sure you give him a nice slash. oh once that rust settles in the nice cut. he'll have something to remember for a very long time. lol. that's how some of the hill billys in puerto rico do.they might not have a gun in the house but you can count on your life that every house hold has a machete there. lol.

they say the pen is mightier than the sword. i say fuck the pen, cause you can DIE BY THE SWORD. - Tom Araya, SLAYER!


:TU: that's true. specially if you go around utuado, ciales, orocovis. contrary to the city people, those are very quiet people, but a lot of balls.

[ZackieDarko]

was invited to a gun range by a former military man on a local street racing board..

should be fun

[Toddnos]

was invited to a gun range by a former military man on a local street racing board..

should be fun
sounds romantic

[K2e2vin]

I have a DE with 6 barrels and 3 calibers... the .50AE is banned at the range we go to, so we only use the .357, and .44mag calibers. Those 2 calibers have very reasonable recoil because the gun is so heavy and has the gas??? recoil (forget the exact term, but it's the same type of recoil mechanism the AR15 has)... I've heard the .50AE shell kicks hard though...

.50AE<<<<<<<<.460 S&W That thing has a higher muzzle velocity than my 7.62x39 SKS!!!

http://images.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_460XVR-2.jpg

[Toddnos]

sks owner ftw

[ryan89crx]

yeah, i see those....

but who has a goose, IN THE HOUSE....?

lolbuddy of mine did, the fucker would NOT shut up!! they had to put a blanket over its cage so that it couldnt see out, because if it could all it would do is honk. stupid fucking thing...

[Haysoos]

yaaaaaarrrrr

LMAO.

THe sigma series is nice, my brother has the .40, more trigger wieght than I prefer, but thats cause I love his glock. If anyone has a problem with glocks jamming, you may be cleaning it too much. Thats what a gunsmith told my brother when his glock was jamming and I don't think he's had problems since.

[" Low "]

stupid fucking thing...
my girl had one when i first met her, it would peck at my leg and crotch, till one day i grabbed that fucker by the neck and didnt let go....


needless to say we got along after that.....

[ryan89crx]

my girl had one when i first met her, it would peck at my leg and crotch, till one day i grabbed that fucker by the neck and didnt let go....


needless to say we got along after that.....hahaha!!

i dont see why people would want those things as pets :neutral: whats wrong with a cat or dog?

[" Low "]

she's mexican, had chickens a goose, and a couple of goats......

and an annoying ass lil overgrown rat known commonly as a chihuahua....

he nabbed my hand one day, so it got bit on the back of the neck...

we also were cool after that.

[ryan89crx]

i HATE chihuahuas...

[" Low "]

yeah i called the puppies shark bait.....!

this was 9 years ago.....

we have an aussie now..... and much happier for both of us.

[Haysoos]

husky/wolf mix FTW. Go ahead, fuck with that dog...

[Toddnos]

my lab will fight any dog that acts funny

[4Door Life]

i was thinking, you should just make a zip gun and call it a day...

prolly cost $5, just were gloves cause the pipe/barrel gets f-in HOT!!!

[K2e2vin]

Taser?? "Non-lethal" and hurts like hell.

[mikeD16Z6]

she's mexican, had chickens a goose, and a couple of goats......

.

My friends got me some chickens as a joke. When I came home I saw a box on the patio outside. I look inside and see white feathers. WTF?? Chickens!! I had NO idea what to do with them. So I built a little cardboard pen for them and fed and gave them fresh water everyday....that is until the raccoons got them about a week later. Can't say I was too upset.

[" Low "]

Hahahahahahahahahahaahah

[big_tiger]

X3 on the 1911 FTW

I have heard bad things about Desert Eagles.

Second choice would be a AK47

Check out www.gunbroker.com

[siregcivic]

sks ftw

x2 with a bayonet on the end.. so you can stab his ass before you shoot him.. ftw

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d69/siregcivic/sksbayonet.jpg

[transzex]

He'd be buying a BABY Eagle, aka a IMI, not a true Desert Eagle.

I have a Mountain Eagle Target, almost bought a Lone Eagle. I know a little about Magnum Research :)

[ZackieDarko]

:offtopic:

personel protection people


no AK47's , SKS's, homo ass sticks with metal sticking out of them and no fucking geese!

:rolleyes:

payday is next weekend

if anybody from the Seattle-ish area wouldn't mind showing me a range or 2 or a store where i can go look at some potential pistols that would be great

[siregcivic]

:offtopic:

personel protection people


no AK47's , SKS's, homo ass sticks with metal sticking out of them and no fucking geese!

:rolleyes:

payday is next weekend

if anybody from the Seattle-ish area wouldn't mind showing me a range or 2 or a store where i can go look at some potential pistols that would be great

do they have any white elephant stores near you.. theres a bunch in spokane washington. they have a nice selection of handguns

[Skcivic]

Check out a Springfield XD-9 or a Walther P99. You can default to a Glock 23. Something lighter with a polymer frame so you can aim quickly.

PLASTIC .40cals FTW!

[ZackieDarko]

from what im reading and research on the net im leaning torward a .40 not a 9mm

[transzex]

.40 is the way to go :)

Over penetraction is less likely.

[mikeD16Z6]

Frangible ammo is designed to fragment into many pieces upon impact. Wont overpenetrate and will deliver 100% of the energy to the target.

[Toddnos]

x2 with a bayonet on the end.. so you can stab his ass before you shoot him.. ftw

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d69/siregcivic/sksbayonet.jpg
eh..mine has a thumb hole stock with thirty round detatchable clip....looks better than that one..

[Toddnos]

:offtopic:

personel protection people


no AK47's , SKS's, homo ass sticks with metal sticking out of them and no fucking geese!

:rolleyes:

payday is next weekend

if anybody from the Seattle-ish area wouldn't mind showing me a range or 2 or a store where i can go look at some potential pistols that would be great
shut up bitch

[K2e2vin]

eh..mine has a thumb hole stock with thirty round detatchable clip....looks better than that one..

Here's mine(Tapco T6 stock, 20rd mag(I have two 20s, a 10 and 30), bayonet removed. Definitely overkill for home defense, unless you use Corbon ammo(which is expensive), even then its still long(at least 4" longer than a AK).

And rifles aren't homo sticks, ask an LAPD officer that was involved in that bank robbery awhile back ;) There's a guy that lives not too far from me who uses just the bayonet(still on rifle though) for home protection.

[Toddnos]

nice lookin rifle man!!

[transzex]

Frangible ammo is designed to fragment into many pieces upon impact. Wont overpenetrate and will deliver 100% of the energy to the target.

Use it in self defense, hope you have a VERY GOOD lawyer and a BIG bank account.

Lower velocity lightweight "Personal Defense" loads are easy to defend. Personally I choose Federal Premium PD 135 gr Hydra-Shok JHP in 40 S&W

1200 fps/432 ft/lbs muzzle
1116 fps/373 ft/lbs @ 25 yards

Same style round but in a 9mm 135 gr

1060 fps/337 ft/lbs muzzles
1026 fps/316 ft/lbs at 25 yards

[S Q A D]

from what im reading and research on the net im leaning torward a .40 not a 9mm

isnt that what I told you like 5 pages ago?

[mikeD16Z6]

Use it in self defense, hope you have a VERY GOOD lawyer and a BIG bank account.

Lower velocity lightweight "Personal Defense" loads are easy to defend. Personally I choose Federal Premium PD 135 gr Hydra-Shok JHP in 40 S&W



Good to know. In the courts why does it make a difference? The lethality? Seems kind of moot considering both rounds are lethal.

[Haysoos]

You can't just pop people in your house and claim self defense, otherwise people would just invite someone over and shoot them in the face. I don't know the specifics because I don't own a firearm to defend my home with, but if I were going to, I would learn the law quick.

Both rounds are lethal, but one is made specifically for fucking someone up, above and beyond a regular round. For that purpose, a laywer can question intent. Why did you have those rounds in there? He could construe that you went above defense and you intended unwarranted harm. Painting this picture, he could say that maybe the the person you shot wasn't intending harm and you shot before danger was present.

Courts are crazy, lawyers can bend shit all kinds of ways and a lot of judges and juries will let themselves be led by the lawyers.

[ZackieDarko]

isnt that what I told you like 5 pages ago?


somethen like that

[Rexinre]

.40 ftw.

Just learn how to fight.

[mikeD16Z6]

started a gun thread. post your shit up

http://www.d-series.org/forums//showthread.php?t=63802

[4horsepower]

Call me old school, but for a carry gun I think it's very hard to beat a .38 snub with a bobbed hammer. The best thing about a single action revolver is it's brain dead simplicity. You don't have to cock it or fumble with a safety, just point it and pull the trigger. I know from experiance, when you're in a panic situation it can be tough to remember all the details to get your gun ready.
Tarus used to make a 2" .38 in titanium... really nice, light guns.

[transzex]

Call me old school, but for a carry gun I think it's very hard to beat a .38 snub with a bobbed hammer. The best thing about a single action revolver is it's brain dead simplicity. You don't have to cock it or fumble with a safety, just point it and pull the trigger. I know from experiance, when you're in a panic situation it can be tough to remember all the details to get your gun ready.
Tarus used to make a 2" .38 in titanium... really nice, light guns.

I'll just call you a noob.

What happens on a uncocked single action wheel gun when you pull the trigger?????


NOTHING!

[4horsepower]

I'll just call you a noob.

What happens on a uncocked single action wheel gun when you pull the trigger?????


NOTHING!

DOH! I guess I'll have to take that.
My bad, should have said double...
And actually I carry a 9mm mak (nearly useless caliber) that is double action, my .38 has been untouched in the safe for about 5 years. ... I wouldn't lay the blame on newbness, I'm hopping on the board as a break from studying. I have tests in behavioral statistics, social psychology and philosophy tomorrow morning , so right now I'm doing well just to remember my name!

[transzex]

brain farts happen :)

Myself I'm looking for a small .357 enclosed hammer pistol for carry. I can always "download" it to 38 SPL.

[gpny]

I've already said this, but look at the SIG p229
It takes 1 minute to go from a .40 to a .357 SIG
The .357sig is a .40 case necked down to fit a 9mm slug and fire it at .357MAG Velocities...
IIRC it has a 13 or 14 round magazine.

[4horsepower]

brain farts happen :)

Myself I'm looking for a small .357 enclosed hammer pistol for carry. I can always "download" it to 38 SPL.

I've been thinking along those lines as well. I absolutly get off on firing a .357. I sold mine about 2 years ago and I still regret it, but I still have about 400 (half of that is .38 wad cutters) rounds and my reloading dies for it. (not to mention 3lbs of powder and a couple thousand primers!)
But then again I keep eyeballing the .40's and .45's...

[transzex]

Sold all my reloading stuff, hadn't touch it in 8 years due to transmission bug.

Now getting back into shooting/carry.