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4CleanDoors
02-12-2007, 05:07 PM
B7 block
P29 pistons (d16a1)
Stock rods

z6 head
hottanked/cleaned/milled (done)
Cometic headgasket (have)
Crower stg2 cam, springs, retainers
1mm oversized valves
Slight port/polish
3 Angle Valve Job (done)

Skunk2 intake manifold w/ Hondata Intake Manifold gasket
GSR TB
AEM cold air intake (have)
DC 4-2-1 1 piece header (have)
2.5 Greddy Evo exhaust (have)

This is what I'm thinking so far. Leave any other suggestions on here.

I have pretty much unlimited dyno time, so tuning will not be a problem here. Thanks.

skspirits949
02-12-2007, 05:09 PM
sounds like a decent setup what hp #'s are you looking to acheive

4CleanDoors
02-12-2007, 05:32 PM
Made 127whp, like nothing for torque (96ish). On stock head and block.

Just I/H/E, tuned on Crome.

skspirits949
02-12-2007, 05:34 PM
yea not very torquey not bad though how much did you pay fro the crome?

Eyal 951
02-12-2007, 05:45 PM
I would not go oversized on the valves without boring the block. The vtec heads already have a shrouding issue, you'll just make it worse by going 1mm over. I went .040 over on my block, and it might have been the best think i did. Deshrouding the valves did good things! I plan to do valves this summer among other things but I'm going to keep the intake valves stock size. (You can oversize exhaust if you want, i probably will)

4CleanDoors
02-12-2007, 06:09 PM
yea not very torquey not bad though how much did you pay fro the crome?

I only paid for the chip that goes in. I have dyno tuning priveliges.

skspirits949
02-12-2007, 06:13 PM
how much is the chip i just need something to tune my car

4CleanDoors
02-12-2007, 06:35 PM
Well you have to have at least a basemap to run your car...a chipping kit costs 15 bucks.

big_g_jando
02-12-2007, 07:07 PM
will there be any issues with the p29s and the cam? cuz im looking to do the same kind of build

guest
02-12-2007, 07:40 PM
according to omniman, from intertunetv, oversized valves aren't a good idea, with a bigger cam because they could lap. which doesn't help that the head is going to be milled I believe.

SOHC_Rules
02-12-2007, 08:01 PM
will there be any issues with the p29s and the cam? cuz im looking to do the same kind of build

no there wont be, because the compression ratio with p29's in a b7 block with a z6 head is only like 9.5:1 or something.... i have more on my a6 with z6 gasket i think....

K2e2vin
02-12-2007, 09:42 PM
:werd: on the valves are too big for stock bore.
IIRC, someone stated that the cylinder bores already shroud the valves and more flow can be had just by overboring(I guess this is why the A6/non-VTEC heads work so great on stock bores). Stick with the stock valves since you already had the valve job done.

4CleanDoors
02-13-2007, 06:11 AM
no there wont be, because the compression ratio with p29's in a b7 block with a z6 head is only like 9.5:1 or something.... i have more on my a6 with z6 gasket i think....

Ummm, that is very very wrong. With the p29's in the b7 block, I am looking at around 12:1 compression. How do you explain 9.5:1? Right now, just on the mini me I am around 10.5:1.

SOHC_Rules
02-13-2007, 06:30 AM
stock d15b7 - 9.28:1

d15b7 with p29's - 9.48:1 (ok, ok, you're right :roll: )

with p29's and z6 head and gasket - 10.47:1

where the hell did you get 12:1? lol

http://www.zealautowerks.com/dseries.html

HONDATUNER356
02-13-2007, 06:52 AM
stock d15b7 - 9.28:1

d15b7 with p29's - 9.48:1 (ok, ok, you're right :roll: )

with p29's and z6 head and gasket - 10.47:1

where the hell did you get 12:1? lol

http://www.zealautowerks.com/dseries.html

he probably got that because as he stated in his first post that the head has already been milled and you need to add that in, which will bump the compression up.

SOHC_Rules
02-13-2007, 07:20 AM
he probably got that because as he stated in his first post that the head has already been milled and you need to add that in, which will bump the compression up.

what if it was milled just enough to make sure its flat??

the real question is... how much was is milled?

answer: AT LEAST .050" off the head

lets wait for his response

im not bashing your build, im just wondering where 12:1 came from

88cr-rex
02-13-2007, 08:00 AM
I went .040 over on my block, and it might have been the best think i did. Deshrouding the valves did good things!

x2.

I went .030" and I wish I would have went .040".

Milling the head does nothing but good things.

4CleanDoors
02-13-2007, 08:08 AM
Head milled .030. The compression calculator that I used must be different, I'll try and find what it was again.

BigTuna
02-13-2007, 08:10 AM
I dont agree with that zeal calculator, P-29's sit so far down in the bore there is no way they have the stated compression. By that calculator I am over 14:1 which isnt true considering I am running pump gas with no issues.

My setup P-29's and A6 head milled 0.079 and Y8 head gasket

SupaStyl
02-13-2007, 11:43 PM
I dont agree with that zeal calculator, P-29's sit so far down in the bore there is no way they have the stated compression. By that calculator I am over 14:1 which isnt true considering I am running pump gas with no issues.

My setup P-29's and A6 head milled 0.079 and Y8 head gasket

Yea with that setup you should be round the 11:1 range. Not 14, thats way out there.

transzex
02-14-2007, 09:44 AM
gotta select the right rods.....

134 or 137mm????

lsturbohatch10
02-14-2007, 10:31 AM
with the knology i get 12:1 too

SOHCinWA
02-14-2007, 01:23 PM
Yeah with the p29's and .040 off of the head. that calculator says I should be in the red at 15+ to 1. Not true, I am still running pump gas too. Wish I had known that before I put this one together I would have decked the block a little first.

SupaStyl
02-14-2007, 10:31 PM
gotta select the right rods.....

134 or 137mm????

did as trans said and input this on zeal's calc.

d15 block, d15 crank, z6 head milled .03 in., y8 head gasket, p29 pistons, b7 connecting rods and came up with 11.36:1 cr. I dont see ane flaws in that.