which guages do you run to keep track of your forced induction setup? [Archive]

94z6ex

12-04-2006, 12:22 AM

CoreyR

12-04-2006, 12:37 AM

thats all i run. well those and a wideband

94z6ex

12-04-2006, 12:43 AM

thats all i run. well those and a wideband

air fuel or an actual wideband?

i figured if i got it tuned generously, and if the air/fuel didnt change too drastically (probably just with the outside temps and altitude), then i would be okay.

i thought about running a "knock signal light" by wiring a small led from the knock sensor, so when it activates, the led will shine and let me know..........(probably considered rice, but it was just a thought i had)

CoreyR

12-04-2006, 12:54 AM

air fuel or an actual wideband?

i figured if i got it tuned generously, and if the air/fuel didnt change too drastically (probably just with the outside temps and altitude), then i would be okay.

i thought about running a "knock signal light" by wiring a small led from the knock sensor, so when it activates, the led will shine and let me know..........(probably considered rice, but it was just a thought i had)

not the ricer autometer AFR gauge with the pretty lights, i rock a real wideband, zietronix to be exact.

the knock sensor light wouldnt be a ricer thing at all, ask a DSM guy they love to monitor knock.

94z6ex

12-04-2006, 12:58 AM

not the ricer autometer AFR gauge with the pretty lights, i rock a real wideband, zietronix to be exact.

the knock sensor light wouldnt be a ricer thing at all, ask a DSM guy they love to monitor knock.

right on man thanks for the info.

cbuscivictuner

12-04-2006, 10:28 AM

Yea alot of dsm guys love knock lights or sensors like the msd unit and sensor or turboxs light but personally I wouldn't run one.I run an autometer sport comp 35 psi boost and electric 1-100 oil psi gauge,along with a wideband.You may want to look into a temerature gauge to get a more acurate reading but it isn't 100% needed.

SpoolinSol

12-04-2006, 10:33 AM

i'd recommend a mechanical oil pressure gauge over an electric, i've heard qite few cases of the sending units on autometers going out (you have a warranty, but still...) Right now i'm only running a autometer boost gauge, but will be gettin an autometer oil press. gauge as well... don't even bohter trying to use the nylon tubing, the copper works well, and i'm sure the braided stainless would work VERY well.

You shouldn't need to run a wideband all the time, jsut make sure your tuner does a good job. Knock light is a good idea as well.

" Low "

12-04-2006, 10:45 AM

i run autometer pro comp ultra-lite boost, water temp, and a/f..... the a/f will be replaced wiht a wideband here soon....
going to run oil temp, pressure, and a few others here in the near future.....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a139/aadiofreek/civic/carsale009.jpg

EG6-Jarhead

12-04-2006, 10:59 AM

boost gauge
a/f ratio guage
oil temp
oil psi
:TU:

Jcazz

12-04-2006, 11:01 AM

Any pics of a good wideband? for him to look at....i am sure someone has some...i would post some but i dont yet have a turbo yet or the wideband! heh...

And yes

Oil mechanical Press
Oil Temp
Water Temp
Boost gauge
A/F Gauge.

Printz

12-04-2006, 11:06 AM

air fuel or an actual wideband?

i figured if i got it tuned generously, and if the air/fuel didnt change too drastically (probably just with the outside temps and altitude), then i would be okay.

i thought about running a "knock signal light" by wiring a small led from the knock sensor, so when it activates, the led will shine and let me know..........(probably considered rice, but it was just a thought i had)

If you have a d16z6 like I think you have then you don't have a knock sensor. I didn't know that until someone told me.

ryan89crx

12-04-2006, 11:09 AM

Wideband and boost gauge

probably going to get an EGT though

spool'nsol

12-04-2006, 11:18 AM

boost, wideband, and EGT gauge. Three essentials for tuning

94z6ex

12-04-2006, 11:48 AM

wouldnt an electronic guage be better to run into the interior of your vehicle? if the mechanical leaks..........well, i just dont want that to happen

CrazyConscious

12-04-2006, 11:59 AM

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/CrazyConscious/e10fdb86.jpg
Tach, Boost, Oil Pressure, Coolant Temp, Wideband, and Volts. All autometer gauges, and a PLX M300 wideband that you can kindof see below the speedo...

cbuscivictuner

12-04-2006, 01:02 PM

wouldnt an electronic guage be better to run into the interior of your vehicle? if the mechanical leaks..........well, i just dont want that to happen

Some say mechanical gauges are slightly more accruate,but an electrical gauge would be better for the interior.Im not having any oil leaks inside of my car with some nylon or copper line.Sure there are tons of people that have good expirences with runing lines inside their cars but im not going to risk it.

I've personally never had an autometer sending unit fail,but if that did happen they would honor their warranty and most speed shops around here carry sending units in stock.

94z6ex

12-04-2006, 01:10 PM

Some say mechanical gauges are slightly more accruate,but an electrical gauge would be better for the interior.Im not having any oil leaks inside of my car with some nylon or copper line.Sure there are tons of people that have good expirences with runing lines inside their cars but im not going to risk it.

I've personally never had an autometer sending unit fail,but if that did happen they would honor their warranty and most speed shops around here carry sending units in stock.

i dont necessarily think its more accurate, its just the fact that if its hooked to the actual component or system that your monitoring, changes, if any, will show immediately. compared to the electronic, where it has to go through the sender, then to the guage, and has to wait for the guage to react.

but yes, im nervous about running oil lines into my car. If it is highly reccommended to do it by using mechanical, then i will, but i can use electronic then i most certainly will.

has anyone had problems with electronics oil pressure guages?

thanks

areskzc

12-04-2006, 02:28 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/aresk1/PICT2183.jpg
I have EGT to see how close to meltdown I am
I have Boost Gauge to see how much this blows
Soon I 'll have a Wideband NGK
And the OIL press you see in pic is for sale! with brand new copper tubing. (yeah it's mech) On sale also, not shown an autometer A/R sportcomp.

Maybe I'll get an electric oil press or fill with my Nitrous electric gauge (winter 2007)

areskzc

12-04-2006, 02:30 PM

Chiovnidca

12-04-2006, 03:02 PM

Oil pressure, boost and tach. Did have an egt guage but took it out.
http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/6/Gauges.JPG

Jcazz

12-04-2006, 03:05 PM

Oh man! you win I thought mine looked like a Tomcat cockpit yours is like a F117 :TU:

LOL!! :IHI:

CrazyConscious

12-04-2006, 03:10 PM

Oh man! you win I thought mine looked like a Tomcat cockpit yours is like a F117 :TU:

LOL, i want to get a pod for my boost gauge next to my tach and add an EGT gauge...so all in all i would have 8 gaues aside from the stock cluster...I love the way it looks at night!

cbuscivictuner

12-04-2006, 03:10 PM

Oil pressure, boost and tach. Did have an egt guage but took it out.
http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/6/Gauges.JPG

Exactley where I mounted my tach In my 90 hatch.With my newest build I wanted to stay away from gauge pods since I want somewhat of a sleeper look so my boost gauge is mounted dead center on the steering column and the oil psi gauge is in the dash.When i had a gauge pod i could pull up to a geo priszm and he would want to have a go.

CrazyConscious

12-04-2006, 03:12 PM

Exactley where I mounted my tach In my 90 hatch.With my newest build I wanted to stay away from gauge pods since I want somewhat of a sleeper look so my boost gauge is mounted dead center on the steering column and the oil psi gauge is in the dash.When i had a gauge pod i could pull up to a geo priszm and he would want to have a go.

I dont worry about hiding them, i like having them right in my face so i can easily see them. I use to have my wideband down by the shifter...that irritated the piss out of me cuz i couldnt see it very well...Form follows function.

Chiovnidca

12-04-2006, 04:19 PM

Exactley where I mounted my tach In my 90 hatch.With my newest build I wanted to stay away from gauge pods since I want somewhat of a sleeper look so my boost gauge is mounted dead center on the steering column and the oil psi gauge is in the dash.When i had a gauge pod i could pull up to a geo priszm and he would want to have a go.
That just seemed like the best place for the tach. I'm going to relocate the ones in the pod. The roll cage is going to be in the way. :(

konigcivic

12-04-2006, 04:52 PM

boost and a wideband.

cbuscivictuner

12-04-2006, 05:10 PM

I dont worry about hiding them, i like having them right in my face so i can easily see them. I use to have my wideband down by the shifter...that irritated the piss out of me cuz i couldnt see it very well...Form follows function.

Your going to hurt the function part when you get a toltal of 8 gauges because its going to be hard to drive and moniter the 8 seperate gauges and the speedo at the same time.They make units that can moniter multiple engine parameters at the same time for that exact purpose.

The way mine is pretty much setup when I look at my speedo or other dash mounted gauges I see my gauges,along with the added benefit of them being out of sight from another driver,ek guys are lucky they have the frog eye pods available.If at all possible I like to keep all my gauges in one or two spots max.

ryan89crx

12-04-2006, 05:11 PM

8 gauges is way too many. waste of money IMO.

get the essentials and call it good

CrazyConscious

12-04-2006, 05:21 PM

8 gauges is way too many. waste of money IMO.

get the essentials and call it good

Maybe so, but i like the look of it and i like to know whats going on.

areskzc

12-04-2006, 05:23 PM

LOL, i want to get a pod for my boost gauge next to my tach and add an EGT gauge...so all in all i would have 8 gaues aside from the stock cluster...I love the way it looks at night!

You know I blown both airbags in a silly accident (so stupid accident I shall post in entreteinment) sooo to hell with airbags and swapped in a JDM steering wheel for the pass side know I have a Hole and I plan to cover it with a flip over compartment to allocate 2 more gauges (Nitro press and fuel press and the wideband)

Consider the egt is a really easy friend who tell HOW HOT U ARE>>> grrrrrrr LOOOOOOOOL (seriously)

kyle h.

12-04-2006, 06:03 PM

vdo boost gauge in the drives side vent

vtecduck

12-04-2006, 07:20 PM

1 gauge and my shift light. My greddy profec e-01 boost controller. Shows boost, rpm and have it set up to show my wideband a/f on the screen.

Sohc Wrath

12-04-2006, 08:07 PM

Just a boost gauge here...

94z6ex

12-04-2006, 08:20 PM

so is a mechanical oil pressure a bad idea? anyone use them with good luck?

thanks

CrazyConscious

12-04-2006, 08:24 PM

so is a mechanical oil pressure a bad idea? anyone use them with good luck?

thanks

I use an Autometer Mech Oil psi gauge with the nylon line that it came with and i have no problems at all...I've been running it for a while now too...

Jcazz

12-04-2006, 10:44 PM

just go to Autozone and use the copper line kit, or fab up a steel braided kit to run into the gauge, that way, you will have Zero problemo!

lilryanadamse

12-04-2006, 10:56 PM

exhaust gas temp
boost
wideband

if you want to fill the pillar. i personally like mechanical gauges when you can get them.

i had a buddy who had i think 16 different guages. looked freakin sweet. all that and still no speedo.

CrazyConscious

12-05-2006, 06:07 AM

just go to Autozone and use the copper line kit, or fab up a steel braided kit to run into the gauge, that way, you will have Zero problemo!

I personally like the teflon line better than the copper...copper crimps to easily and is a pain in the ass to install...A steel braided line would be nice, but it would get hella expensive fast...

drunkinmaster1

12-05-2006, 06:36 AM

i rock an autometer boost and oil guage both mechanical.
i trust the oil guage, but the boost guage is off by +3psi.
electric boost guages are more accurate but lesss reliable.
my brothers greddy eletronic guage has went out and i guess this is common.

Jcazz

12-05-2006, 10:33 AM

I personally like the teflon line better than the copper...copper crimps to easily and is a pain in the ass to install...A steel braided line would be nice, but it would get hella expensive fast...

Serouis...though that is a good point, i didnt think about the bending part....kinda had the braided steel in my mind hahahah.....:haha:

CoreyR

12-05-2006, 02:45 PM

here a pic of mine. im not a fan on pillar pods anymore they dont help the sleeper look. :D

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/coreyr1/Picture164.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c320/coreyr1/Picture167.jpg

94z6ex

12-05-2006, 07:55 PM

like the title says, which guages do you run to keep track of your forced induction setup?

i was planning on running a boost guage (of course) and an electronic oil pressure guage. i was just wondering if there are any others that are a necessity.

thanks

exhaust gas temp
boost
wideband

if you want to fill the pillar. i personally like mechanical gauges when you can get them.

i had a buddy who had i think 16 different guages. looked freakin sweet. all that and still no speedo.

i said what gauges are YOU running. Your NA, and wasting threadspace............jk man (let me know when you hear more info on your motor being shipped...i want that mani)

is an EGT gauge really necessary for only a 300whp build?

im not too worried about the wideband because when its tuned, it will be a pretty generous tune........you know, room for error.

CrazyConscious

12-05-2006, 08:15 PM

is an EGT gauge really necessary for only a 300whp build?

I would like to know when an egt gauge is necessary also

94z6ex

12-05-2006, 08:35 PM

I would like to know when an egt gauge is necessary also

the only time ive heard of them being necessary is when you are running huge amounts of boost. I guess when you have overly hot EGT's, it is a sign of knocking.

but i thought that a simple led wired to the knock sensor would do the same.......but maybe im wrong.

but im curious what the exact use for them is.

SovXietday

12-05-2006, 08:58 PM

I'm running the carbon fiber series Autometer gauges.

-Boost
-Oil Press
-Water Temp

I also have a PLX R-300 Wideband and Datalogging unit.

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/turboinstall9.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/wideband.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/dwilz/wideband2.jpg

I still need an EGT gauge and a shift light.

CrazyConscious

12-05-2006, 09:10 PM

the only time ive heard of them being necessary is when you are running huge amounts of boost. I guess when you have overly hot EGT's, it is a sign of knocking.

but i thought that a simple led wired to the knock sensor would do the same.......but maybe im wrong.

but im curious what the exact use for them is.

I dont have a knock sensor so that idea is out...