The SSAC/cheap ebay thread. if you have a question about look here first

[94z6ex]

someone should sticky this.. There are a ton more threads so if you find one add to it. lets try and cut down on the redundant threads about this stuff.

manifold, wastegate, intercooler, IC piping
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55607&highlight=SSAC
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59467

OBX manifold
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55129&highlight=SSAC

SSAC turbos
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55073
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55073&highlight=SSAC

SSAC manifold
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50857&highlight=SSAC

SSAC Kit
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=49049&highlight=SSAC
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44292&highlight=SSAC

XS Power kits
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48646&highlight=SSAC
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46203&highlight=SSAC
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40047&highlight=SSAC
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56511

Ebay parts for your build
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48009&highlight=SSAC

SSAC exhaust
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46321&highlight=SSAC

Ebay Intercoolers
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41643&highlight=SSAC

SSAC Wastegates
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44184&highlight=SSAC
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42006&highlight=SSAC

Turbo Creations Ebay turbo kit
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41439&highlight=SSAC

[94z6ex]

keep adding. i searched SSAC and stopped at the bottom of page 3.

im prolly a loser for making this thread but i was bored and it needed to be done.

[Levi]

stickied

[CrazyConscious]

Nice thread!

[" Low "]

Nice thread!

fuck yeah....:TU::TU:

[jimmyb34]

maybe just put... in big red bold letters
this shit sucks, quit asking us if its cool because it isnt

[" Low "]

maybe just put... in big red bold letters
this shit sucks, quit asking us if its cool because it isnt

fuck yeah....:TU::TU:

[94z6ex]

please add to this everytime a new cheap ebay kit question pops up. if we keep it updated with more info, it will be more effective.

[dxdrver]

very nice very nice i applaud you

much easier now

[psycheus]

Thanks for taking the time to make this thread. http://www.d-series.org/forums/images/smilies/pi_thumbsup.gif

[jpayso88]

I would never put any of that shit on my car!!!!!!!!!
All that ebay stuff WILL FALL APART!!!!!!

It takes time and money to buld a fast car

if its cheap and reliable it will not be fast
if its cheap and fast it will not be reliable
if its fast and reliable it will not be cheap

sorry guys, it is whats it is

[ryan89crx]

I would never put any of that shit on my car!!!!!!!!!
All that ebay stuff WILL FALL APART!!!!!!please do not speak of which you obviously have no experience with

have you ran one of the cheap turbos or WGs? if not, then your opinion does not matter

[94z6ex]

I would never put any of that shit on my car!!!!!!!!!
All that ebay stuff WILL FALL APART!!!!!!

It takes time and money to buld a fast car

if its cheap and reliable it will not be fast
if its cheap and fast it will not be reliable
if its fast and reliable it will not be cheap

sorry guys, it is whats it is

well thats not why i posted this thread man. i posted this thread because we have been getting so many posts about these ebay turbo parts. i didnt post it to bash on it. the manifolds will crack if they are not braced and the turbos will go out fast if they do not run oil restrictors.

dont post on this without expirience please. just add posts accordingly to the thread.

-kendall

[1991rex]

well thats not why i posted this thread man. i posted this thread because we have been getting so many posts about these ebay turbo parts. i didnt post it to bash on it. the manifolds will crack if they are not braced and the turbos will go out fast if they do not run oil restrictors.

dont post on this without expirience please. just add posts accordingly to the thread.

-kendall

would rep u for this thread but says i have to spread rep around first

[CrazyConscious]

Guess what!!! My turbo took a shit on me recently. Right around the 6k mile marker...Other than that my wg and mani are holding up just fine. I wouldn't buy the SSAuto Turbo EVER AGAIN!...I'm sending it into blast to hopefully be re-built...

By the way, i was using an oil restrictor and it was only running 8-10psi.

[mark7901]

Guess what!!! My turbo took a shit on me recently.


oil spilling out through the exhaust side of the turbo?

[CrazyConscious]

oil spilling out through the exhaust side of the turbo?

And major shaft play up and down...

[mark7901]

And major shaft play up and down...

yup, as soon as I fired mine up, I got tons of smoke out of the exhaust. I took the turbo off, and no smoke. I think I emptied about half a quart of oil from my intercooler.

[Sexicivic2000]

here ya ebyers go! ssautoshiznot blur mani!!![http://www.myflirtyspace.com/uploads/images/2007-01-18/dVfvEvw4Kc.jpghttp://www.myflirtyspace.com/uploads/images/2007-01-18/G711qy67UU.jpghttp://www.myflirtyspace.com/uploads/images/2007-01-18/Y864jjUjIl.jpghttp://www.myflirtyspace.com/uploads/images/2007-01-18/5M6vIMjJhi.jpghttp://www.myflirtyspace.com/uploads/images/2007-01-18/giUX2Zu5Bu.jpghttp://www.myflirtyspace.com/uploads/images/2007-01-18/7RWSbMoaZX.jpg

[builthatch]

here ya ebyers go! ssautoshiznot blur mani!!![

this is typical of poorly executed butt welds (hehe)

if the weld isn't purged, then you end up with crap in the inside tract AND most of the time, a poor connection, so it's a double whammy- the weak connection plus the restriction which will become a hot-spot. that combo is a perfect recipe for a crack.

turbo stuff is under pressure and deals with high heat, moreso that intakes and NA headers. it's my personal belief that supreme quality is very important with these types of parts...

[Speedjunky01]

a good friend of mine has had nothing but good stuff to say aboput his kit.

www.spdweb.net

his kit has had 0 issues and is now at 13k, he has taken the kit apart at 5k and 12k and posted pics of turbo and mani internals.

[hondalover22]

except for the mani starting to crack.

[Speedjunky01]

except for the mani starting to crack.

I saw his tune he is runing ALOT of timing in low throttle and is at 15.5:1 in the high vac areas, hes trying to get MPG machine and power.

the EGT's are fucking HIGH lol. and many is fine just the brace :)

[1991rex]

was going to get the xs turbo kit but after seeing that pic glad i just decided to say the heck with it and stay n/a

[boostedeghatch]

i have been running my same ssac turbo for 11 months with absolutly no problems at all,the first ssac mani i had cracked due to poor bracing,but i bought a second and it has been fine for a while now that i have braced it off myself.

[©urbow]

Thanks for the info man!

[slowex98]

maybe just put... in big red bold letters
this shit sucks, quit asking us if its cool because it isnt

yes I agree

[ferioKYOSO]

i have seen and heard many mixed reviews. three ppl i know ordered ebay kits, one- wastegate did not work for crap, two- no issues whatsoever three- piping was incorrect, but once fabbed worked fine..(so far)

i guess its just the luck of the draw....
still i wouldnt gamble on this kit!
rather piece my own together as i have before.

my. 02

[94z6ex]

well its been proven that the turbos have a better chance of holding up with the use of a restrictor and the manifold has a better chance of not cracking if it is braced to all get out........

BOV and wastegates may need internal spring modification in order to work without worries.

it basically is the draw of the card, but IMO, when going turbo, dont skimp out where it matters, like the turbo itself and the manifold.

[CrazyConscious]

well its been proven that the turbos have a better chance of holding up with the use of a restrictor and the manifold has a better chance of not cracking if it is braced to all get out........

BOV and wastegates may need internal spring modification in order to work without worries.

it basically is the draw of the card, but IMO, when going turbo, dont skimp out where it matters, like the turbo itself and the manifold.

I'm running the wastegate no problem...I think that and the dumptube are the only thing good that came out of the kit i bought...Turbo and manifold were both dead within 6k miles...

[Daydreamer]

Heck of a thread. I just got a turbo mani in the mail from cxracing, off of ebay. it looks exactly like the ssauto mani from the first post but has bracing already in place. could it be that ssauto is also going under cxracing? something to ponder.

[ryan89crx]

Heck of a thread. I just got a turbo mani in the mail from cxracing, off of ebay. it looks exactly like the ssauto mani from the first post but has bracing already in place. could it be that ssauto is also going under cxracing? something to ponder.:sadface:

ssauto DOES NOT make their own products!!!!!

all this shit is made in the same Taiwanese factory, regardless of what ssauto or OBX claims. ssauto just pays the company that makes it to put their nameplate on it. 385792395748654 other companies on eBay buy from the same manufacturer under different names. ITS ALL THE SAME GARBAGE!!!

ssauto just happened to be the first on the Chinese bandwagon...

[SinisterCRX]

Yikes, I thought the blur manifolds were going to be okay... goes to show once a terrible auto parts "company", always...

[5speed4life]

Ive been running my ssac manifold for 5 months now, lots of miles, lots of whoopin on it, and it has not cracked yet.


Anyone find any bad news on thier recently updated design? Not the twisty lookin one, but thier origional design that they upgraded the size of the tubes and the welds and shit. Id like to see how those have been doing.

[Green 91]

:sadface:

ssauto DOES NOT make their own products!!!!!

all this shit is made in the same Taiwanese factory, regardless of what ssauto or OBX claims. ssauto just pays the company that makes it to put their nameplate on it. 385792395748654 other companies on eBay buy from the same manufacturer under different names. ITS ALL THE SAME GARBAGE!!!

ssauto just happened to be the first on the Chinese bandwagon...

right.

i have a 2 links to sites where you can buy all the knock off shit on ebay, in lots (liek 55 pieces) where all the resellers on ebay buy and resell from.
turbos, BOV, springs, lights,manifolds. all that knock off shit


http://www.made-in-china.com/
http://www.alibaba.com/

[d15dunebuggy]

good links. I'm going to use an Ebay kit with the cast drag style manifold. Reliability is not a priority to me since it's not my DD. When the turbo goes it's getting rebuilt by Blaast.

[Andrew]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CIVIC-CRX-TWISTED-RAM-D15-D16-TURBO-MANIFOLD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ019Q QitemZ290122143115QQrdZ1

Opinions for >200whp?

[Printz]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CIVIC-CRX-TWISTED-RAM-D15-D16-TURBO-MANIFOLD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ019Q QitemZ290122143115QQrdZ1

Opinions for >200whp?
I wouldn't do it people have already shown them breaking, do a search for the blurr manifold.

[Andrew]

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1349

Ahh, so it's made by SSAC.

I'll make sure and stay away from that crap.
Thx for the heads up.

[d15dunebuggy]

that thing looks sick tho!!!

[ryan89crx]

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1349

Ahh, so it's made by SSAC.

I'll make sure and stay away from that crap.
Thx for the heads up.its not made by SSAC. SSAC doesnt manufacture anything...

read up a few posts

[Andrew]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/t3-t4-t3-t4-hybrid-turbo-with-oil-line-down-pipe-flange_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ020QQi temZ300119788955QQrdZ1

Anybody know why this is so cheap?
chinese crap?

[94z6ex]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/t3-t4-t3-t4-hybrid-turbo-with-oil-line-down-pipe-flange_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ020QQi temZ300119788955QQrdZ1

Anybody know why this is so cheap?
chinese crap?

i would say yes it is simply because all of the nice turbo brands such as garrett, turbonetics, air research, ect........does not have their name on it. Also, from what ive seen, most chinese junk turbos are 57 trim with a .50 compressor side and .63 exhaust side.........this turbo is exactly that, so it is probably on of the cheaper chinese ones.

[quakebks]

okay im a noob and dont have alot of money so would an ebay turbo kit be okay for like.... 6 psi or so. i mean im not goin to get 234094 hp out of it. the kit is really cheap obviously, the links below. i know greddys better but like i said im just starting out with this whole performane thing and am not tryin to have a racecar. its not ssac.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo-Intercooler-Kit-for-D16-Lx-Dx-Ex-CRX-Civic-SOHC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ017QQite mZ270130337979QQrdZ1

also where can i get crome for a good price?

[94z6ex]

okay im a noob and dont have alot of money so would an ebay turbo kit be okay for like.... 6 psi or so. i mean im not goin to get 234094 hp out of it. the kit is really cheap obviously, the links below. i know greddys better but like i said im just starting out with this whole performane thing and am not tryin to have a racecar. its not ssac.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo-Intercooler-Kit-for-D16-Lx-Dx-Ex-CRX-Civic-SOHC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ017QQite mZ270130337979QQrdZ1

also where can i get crome for a good price?

everything will work, but im assuming that the intercooler piping will need to fitted correctly, which isnt a big deal. my main concern is the manifold. They are very easy to crack, and will crack. From what ive seen, (not expirienced) is that it is pretty much a hit or miss with these manifolds. Some run them for years without a problem, some for 5 months, others for 2 weeks before a problem or crack occurs. The same goes with the turbo......although as said many times before, if you run a restrictor with the turbo, it will last longer.

With these kits, like i said before, is a hit or miss. The wastegates, blow off valve, oil lines, and intercooler and piping really arent all that bad (not saying tehy are great but they will work, especially for 6 psi), its the manifold mainly and the turbo as well that i wuld worry about.

and crome is a free program. check out www.pgmfi.org to download it. Crome pro has datalogging and a few extra features that regular crome doesnt have, but crome pro is $150.

[quakebks]

so what do i all need for crome,(by the way i have a 00 civic dx any help?) i download it and what else........

[94z6ex]

so what do i all need for crome,(by the way i have a 00 civic dx any help?) i download it and what else........

you will need to convert to obd-1 from your current obd-2 setup. you then need to get a ecu capable of chipping....most widely used is the p28. chip the ecu with the necessary hardware, find a tuner, burn a basemap, hookup a wideband, and start tuning.

[Andrew]

Thx for your comment up there btw 94z6ex. I figured as much! :p

[quakebks]

is this an okay ecu for me to convert to.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBD1-honda-civic-ecu-p28-p06-vtec-turbo-chipped-chip_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33596QQihZ019QQite mZ290127781247QQrdZ1

[d15dunebuggy]

ebay turbos are a lot like D-series motors. If they break, just buy another one for like $200.

[94z6ex]

ebay turbos are a lot like D-series motors. If they break, just buy another one for like $200.

yeah, but difference is, that if you buy another motor, you take corrective action of what not to do to blow the new one, so it wont happen again, or at least for a long while.

but if your ebay turbo goes out in 2 weeks and you buy another one for $200 more, you still have an ebay turbo that has a potential of going out. What then, buy another one or learn from your mistakes and have $400 extra invested in turbos when you could have spent $600 to get on that will pretty much hold up for several years like a garrett.

[rkcarguySI]

I got a T3/T4 hybrid turbo from SSAC a few years ago. It lasted about 3 miles, and then the wheel started rubbing on the exhaust housing and leaking oil into the exhaust. I removed it and took it apart, and found that both the compressor and exhaust wheel were apparently belt sanded "sorta" round and massively out of balance. Long story short it was a big waste of money and time, I had to wait 3 weeks and borrow a friends 87 toyota turdcell to have enough money to order a garrett and for it to get here, then I was finally back on the road.

I recently bought a manifold from them, only because it was so cheap that if it cracks I can utilize the flanges and use my own piping. Hasn't cracked yet. Maybe I got lucky or maybe tomorrow it will.

Generally I say it's all crap, and yes, we should put "it's all crap" in big red letters in the first post.

[94z6ex]

I got a T3/T4 hybrid turbo from SSAC a few years ago. It lasted about 3 miles, and then the wheel started rubbing on the exhaust housing and leaking oil into the exhaust. I removed it and took it apart, and found that both the compressor and exhaust wheel were apparently belt sanded "sorta" round and massively out of balance. Long story short it was a big waste of money and time, I had to wait 3 weeks and borrow a friends 87 toyota turdcell to have enough money to order a garrett and for it to get here, then I was finally back on the road.

I recently bought a manifold from them, only because it was so cheap that if it cracks I can utilize the flanges and use my own piping. Hasn't cracked yet. Maybe I got lucky or maybe tomorrow it will.

Generally I say it's all crap, and yes, we should put "it's all crap" in big red letters in the first post.

hmmmmm......never heard of anything that extreme from ssac......that sucks man. was it a used turbo, or brand new directly from their warehouse?

[Andrew]

Thoughts on this wastegate (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-38mm-External-Wastegate-Kit-FREE-SHIPPING-Turbo_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ004QQit emZ140132757228QQrdZ1)?

Is this an SSAC wg?

[Normworldhero]

Thoughts on this wastegate (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-38mm-External-Wastegate-Kit-FREE-SHIPPING-Turbo_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ004QQit emZ140132757228QQrdZ1)?

Is this an SSAC wg?

Mine works fine. I have a 14psi spring in it. I haven't heard of any trouble with the knockoff wastegates.

[Andrew]

Cool. Thx for posting up.

Would I have any trouble finding different springs for it, or are WG springs pretty much universal?

[bermanator]

i've got an SSAC 38mm external wastegate and it's held up fine for the last 2 years. i had to change the spring when i got it, so i checked the internals and they all looked to be good quality and have pretty high tolerances. i think i paid 100$ shipped with 2 springs, gaskets, and flanges.

[blade]

wg holding up fine really it came with a 7 spring and i just add a few washers on top of the spring to raise the boost and its working great i guess some of the cheap shit not that bad

[onedayaway]

I noticed a kit going by the name revspeed, they sell b & d series kits with cast manifolds.
Is this another ss auto company?
Anyone have an experience with said company?

[crazyacecivic]

yeah xs power manifold did crack but the turbo is still going it crack when i hit 30 psi

[projectEH2-t]

yeah xs power manifold did crack but the turbo is still going it crack when i hit 30 psi

damn 30psi homie? :skull:

[Andrew]

Once again, I know you get what you pay for...

But heres a turbo being sold:
BTW it's a 57 trim

I have up for sale a brand new t3/t04e turbo5 bolt exhaust asking $175 shipped this is not a ssauto chrome or a xspower. I ran the same turbo on my sohc turbo at 18 psi for 1 year and never had a problem

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7978/turbohp5.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9606/turbo1dg8.jpg


Is this one of those garbage-chinese-turbos?

[Normworldhero]

That's the same turbo as my SSAC turbo, but mine has worked fine so far...well, the second one.

[Andrew]

Hmm.... It sounds like these turbos are pretty much hit-or-miss.

Any other peeps have experience with this particular turbo?
(thanks for your imput Normworldhero)

[Overkill]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95-CIVIC-D15-D16-REV-SPEED-T3-T4-COMPLETE-TURBO-KIT_W0QQitemZ120152661695QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33742Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohost ing

What about these kits? I noticed it's not the cheaper looking SSAC manifold, but I wasn't sure, I haven't saw any posts regarding this kit, I'm going to guess its the same quality as the SSAC, but just curious.

[J_Dog]

Here's a few kits on eBay right now. Post up some opinions or experiences on them.

Kit 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/88-00-Civic-CRX-Del-Sol-D15-D16-T3-T4-T04E-Turbo-Kit-C_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ017QQitemZ2 70165959012QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Kit 2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FULL-TURBO-KIT-D16-SOHC-CIVIC-CRX-DEL-SOL-1988-2000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ013QQite mZ230171577006QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Kit 3 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-88-00-CIVIC-EG-EK-T3-T4-FULL-TURBO-KIT-D15-D16_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ013QQitem Z230172903106QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Kit 4 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95-CIVIC-D15-D16-REV-SPEED-T3-T4-COMPLETE-TURBO-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ002QQitem Z120161961460QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Kit 5 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-Turbo-Kit-D16-CIVIC-92-2000-w-INTERCOOLER-CRX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ013QQitem Z230173512180QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

[Mike_995]

This kit to me looks like a relativily good kit for the money, I have seen it in person and it looks pretty good.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HONDA-88-00-CIVIC-T3-T4-FULL-TURBO-UPGRADE-KIT-D15-D16_W0QQitemZ230157751998QQihZ013QQcategoryZ33742Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[SupraRXZ]

I have about 10k miles on my XSpower t3/t4 and its running fine