All it takes is a vote, nothing more.....

[JaredKaragen]

So whatdaya think?

[SOHC_Rules]

well since ill assume we arent to say the full word...

***IMO*** and not to sound racist...

there's black people and N's..... most african americans ive met in my whole entire life are black people... imo who are just like everybody else just different ethnic backgrounds..... the N's are the ones who steal TV's, loot stores during times of danger/distress, or rape women and do crack.... ETC...

again thats in my opinion and im not a racist, and if u didnt want anyone posting in this thread, then disregard it.

[93civiccx]

well since ill assume we arent to say the full word...

***IMO*** and not to sound racist...

there's black people and N's..... most african americans ive met in my whole entire life are black people... imo who are just like everybody else just different ethnic backgrounds..... the N's are the ones who steal TV's, loot stores during times of danger/distress, or rape women and do crack.... ETC...

again thats in my opinion and im not a racist, and if u didnt want anyone posting in this thread, then disregard it.

Exactly. Just like there are white people and white trash and so on. Every race has some good and some that need to be shot.

[93civ123]

x2 i agree with all of the above

[ryan89crx]

racial terms only exist anymore because people still CHOOSE to believe that they are said to be negative.

prime example...HMT

everyone calls everyone else a nigger, gook, spic, wetback, jew...

guess what? there are BLACK people on there calling whites/mexicans/asians niggers. there are mexicans calling blacks and whites wetbacks.

its not directed at any particular race, everyone is all the same. and with everyone all the same, the words lose their meaning and its just like callnig someone a dickhead.

its those that CHOOSE to look at a certain word in a racial way that keep racism around. if you were to look at it as any other meaning like the HMT crew does, you would see a whole new light

[CIVICRicerBoy]

racial terms only exist anymore because people still CHOOSE to believe that they are said to be negative.

prime example...HMT

everyone calls everyone else a nigger, gook, spic, wetback, jew...

guess what? there are BLACK people on there calling whites/mexicans/asians niggers. there are mexicans calling blacks and whites wetbacks.

its not directed at any particular race, everyone is all the same. and with everyone all the same, the words lose their meaning and its just like callnig someone a dickhead.

its those that CHOOSE to look at a certain word in a racial way that keep racism around. if you were to look at it as any other meaning like the HMT crew does, you would see a whole new light

x2. He wins.

[remoer]

i want to say this it all depends where in the good ole USA you say it. i lived all my life in the north ny state. born and bred in the projects in brooklyn. so it's a very fluent word in my vocab. i've been called all my life a spanish speaking n*gg*r. and even when my son calls me i answer the phone to him "wha up nigga?"
now in the south, i live in Atl. race is broken into two section. black and everything else. for the first time i'm not consider a spanish speaking n*gg*er. even the mexican more love than the blacks.

[d-ranged]

im confused about the poll so i won't vote,but i will add every race has ignorant people one believing they are better than the other for one reason or another. hating a person because of religion or differences in physical appearances which are mostly due to geographical adaptations of evolution is senseless. hey call me crazy ,but maybe one is better than the other at one thing or another that just means we all have a piece of the puzzle, but it does'nt mean shit if we don't put it together.

[" Low "]

i agree with the thread title that got changed and that started this thread....

it was uncalled for because no one person will take it the same as the other.....theree ar 15k members on here

N!@@3R riggin was a poor judgement choice for a title, no matter the intention of misharm.....

some one will get offended by it ..... white. black , asian, mexican, jdm...... it doesnt matter.......

hell i was gonna neg rep for the title till i saw some one else already wiped you out....

[Steve-O]

well since ill assume we arent to say the full word...

***IMO*** and not to sound racist...

there's black people and N's..... most african americans ive met in my whole entire life are black people... imo who are just like everybody else just different ethnic backgrounds..... the N's are the ones who steal TV's, loot stores during times of danger/distress, or rape women and do crack.... ETC...

again thats in my opinion and im not a racist, and if u didnt want anyone posting in this thread, then disregard it.x2

i say to people that i'm not racist. i just notice that certain groups of people do the same things all the time. black people in poor parts of town are always gettin into trouble with the law and involved with the legal system a majority of time. native canadians in resevres don't work much (if at all), they drink like fish, smoke like chimneys, collect governemtn assistance, don't pay taxes and threaten or beat up white people who come onto a resevre.

we are all human with emotional variables at work and we have all made generalizations. anyone who says they don't is either lying or exceptionally in control of themselves. but for the most part, we all know that the crackhead who robbed a variety store for $100 or the prostitue who turns tricks isn't the same person as the black guy who religiously services his ridgeline at the honda dealership.

i don't make the association that because a black/white/hispanic/asian/etc guy beat me up for $40 that all of them are like that. but i'd be lying to say that when i see homeboys talking ebonics with huge jerseys, sagging pants with picks in their hair giving me a dirty look or talking shit about something, i can't help but wonder why certain groups of people do certain things. but it's not just blacks or natives, it's white people too. i don't know how many times i've seen this white-but-i-think-im-black homeboy wannabe thugs, dressed in clothes 5 sizes too big costing more than a down payment on a car, with huge-rimmed SUVs, acting all hard and tough in public when you know if they got tossed into the bucket their cinnamon ring would be more appealing to the inmates and be eaten or plowed more than a krispy kreme donught.

i might be opening a can of worms here but the one thing i hate is when other races play the race card and generalize white people or want special treatment. think you should get a job because of the colour of your skin or th ethnicity you have? too fucking bad :TD:. you can live right next door to me in middle class suburbia and i would happily be your neighbor. pay the same taxes, do the same yardwork, have the same firneds, make the same living. i don't begrudge you any pluses that i have or can achieve. but i didn't enslave you or take your land. i didn't put your anscestors to work on a plantation or take your women and furs. i didn't whip, beat, toture or opress any of your people. don't cry about something that happened over a hundre years ago that i had nothing to do with and wouldn't do today if it still happened. also, don't sell m,e your land for booze, smokes and women then cry about it and ask for it back 200 years later :TD:

slavery and everything else ended over 100+ years ago people. time to get over it.

just my $0.02

[ryan89crx]

i might be opening a can of worms here but the one thing i hate is when other races play the race card and generalize white people. i mean, i didn't enslave any african canadians or put them to work on my plantation. i didn't whip or beat ot toture or opress any black people. also, i didn't come to canada and take any native canadians' land. but with that being said, don't sell it to me for booze, smokes and women then cry about it and ask for it back 200 years later :TD:

slavery and everything else ended over 150 years ago. get over it.

just my $0.02i feel the exact same way!

if someone is still going to be bitter towards whites over the slave trade, you better damn well be pissed at blacks too. because who do you think sold blacks to the whites?? BLACKS!! its a fucked up situation, but treating one race like shit over something that everyone had a hand in is just plain rediculous

[Steve-O]

i feel the exact same way!

if someone is still going to be bitter towards whites over the slave trade, you better damn well be pissed at blacks too. because who do you think sold blacks to the whites?? BLACKS!! its a fucked up situation, but treating one race like shit over something that everyone had a hand in is just plain rediculous i did some editing while you posted this ryan. sorry man, i had some comments to add.


i might be opening a can of worms here but the one thing i hate is when other races play the race card and generalize white people or want special treatment. think you should get a job because of the colour of your skin or th ethnicity you have? too fucking bad :TD:. you can live right next door to me in middle class suburbia and i would happily be your neighbor. pay the same taxes, do the same yardwork, have the same firneds, make the same living. i don't begrudge you any pluses that i have or can achieve. but i didn't enslave you or take your land. i didn't put your anscestors to work on a plantation or take your women and furs. i didn't whip, beat, toture or opress any of your people. don't cry about something that happened over a hundre years ago that i had nothing to do with and wouldn't do today if it still happened. also, don't sell m,e your land for booze, smokes and women then cry about it and ask for it back 200 years later :TD:

slavery and everything else ended over 100+ years ago people. time to get over it.

just my $0.02

[d-ranged]

saying your not racist does'nt make it so. your actions are what prove this. the best time to find this out is when you are confronted by a person of another color under negative circumstances ,and you handle the situation with out race being brought up even if the other guy does you can still take the high road that is what i do.

[Steve-O]

...the best time to find this out is when you are confronted by a person of another color under negative circumstances ,and you handle the situation with out race being brought up even if the other guy does you can still take the high road that is what i do.pose that experiment to an average white guy living and/or walking down the street in south central los angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Los_Angeles) and see what he has to say at the end of the day

not flaming at all man. i just think racisim, where evident, is environmental, conditional and nutured in the human mind over time. it isn't something we wake up and decide to do or not to do one day

[d-ranged]

it does'nt matter what color you are walking thru south central if your not from there you could easily become a victim. this could be applied in traffic, grocery store, any where people gather. in my work place is i find the opportunity more often tha any.

[SOHC_Rules]

pose that experiment to an average white guy living and/or walking down the street in south central los angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Los_Angeles) and see what he has to say at the end of the day

not flaming at all man. i just think racisim, where evident, is environmental, conditional and nutured in the human mind over time. it isn't something we wake up and decide to do or not to do one day

this is very true... people are raised to be racist by their mother/father, or brother or sister, neighbors friends and classmates.....

someone from say... vermont... or NH even (depending on the area..) hardly ever see's a black man, if at all in their life (depending on the area...). if you take this person, and a white person from LA and put them in the same room, with like 50 black people. the 2 white people will act completely different.

but i must say.. if a black man, asian, mexican, etc confronted me about anything (which happens at the track... because it is in southern NH where theres more of an ethnic arrangement) i dont act differently than i would if a white person did the same.

cant say the same for a couple of my friends, though... :roll:

[SOHC_Rules]

it does'nt matter what color you are walking thru south central if your not from there you could easily become a victim. this could be applied in traffic, grocery store, any where people gather. in my work place is i find the opportunity more often tha any.

thats because the people of the area get the mindset that they are alone in the world, beaten battered and bruised by whitey, create a clique/posse, and anyone they dont know must be threatened..

[Steve-O]

i don't CONSIDER myself to be racist and i feel i have a very open mind for many things. but i'm also realistic and don't sugarcoat things and i'd be lying if i said i didn't make generalizarions a time or two. we all do.

at the end of the day i know what is right and what is wrong.

[SOHC_Rules]

i don't CONSIDER myself to be racist and i feel i have a very open mind for many things. but i'm also realistic and don't sugarcoat things and i'd be lying if i said i didn't make generalizarions a time or two. we all do.

at the end of the day i know what is right and what is wrong.

i dont think ANYBODY considers themselves racist, but some people dont know that they actually are by someone else's standards.... for example.. the members of the KKK were raised with the notion of black people don't belong... but im sure they dont consider themselves racist... if they do they are fucked up in the head...

and it's not only white people that are racist, blacks, mexicans, asians, etc can ALL be racist....

when you think about it, being racist boils down to making a generalization, think it isnt just a generalization, and then hating from there.....

and ill be honest, i, as well, make generalizations, but i realize they are just that.

[d-ranged]

i am a of mixed race decent of black ,and white. but have always been regarded ,and treated as black, but have strong opinions from both sides. where i live gang activity is present their are black gangs their are mexican gangs and of course white gangs. i have an uncle who is white who was in a black gang ,and has much respect til this day, and he was not the only one, i have seen white guys in mexican gangs ,and black guys in mexican gangs. the white gangs are only white gangs mostly with blonde hair ,and blue eyes if you know what i mean.

[ryan89crx]

i don't CONSIDER myself to be racist and i feel i have a very open mind for many things. but i'm also realistic and don't sugarcoat things and i'd be lying if i said i didn't make generalizarions a time or two. we all do.its true. Carlos Mencia said it best when he talked about racism...

[SOHC_Rules]

its true. Carlos Mencia said it best when he talked about racism...

someone should find that bit on youtube, or google video...... or something

[Steve-O]

...and it's not only white people that are racist, blacks, mexicans, asians, etc can ALL be racist....:werd:

[d-ranged]

yes get carlos in here so he can shed light on the subject

[Steve-O]

i didn't know who carlos was (yes, i live under a rock) so curiosity got killed the cat in me and i ggogled him. im watchin his clip on his site from late night with conan obrien right now. he's funny as hell :TU:

[Steve-O]

:bigrofl:

he's some seriosuly funny shit. this may sound weird but it would be nice if what he is like is how all racism was :TU:

[ryan89crx]

someone should find that bit on youtube, or google video...... or somethingNot for the Easily Offended

part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8A5ngy8-94
part2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syx9IyKmDxE
part3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie_UPZd0nKw
part4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjB7nTpvwM
part5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAeYH8Dx9ew
part6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Q_bXGkRrE


funny as shit!

[HondaSteve]

I don't understand why its such a big deal. Its just another one of those names that you call people. I hear best friends calling eachother a mother fucker all the time and no one takes offense by it. A white guy doesnt take offense to being called a Cracker or Whitey. Black people call eachother nigger more often than anyone else does. I dont see how it makes any difference about who says it. I called by buddy a nigger one time and a black guy accross the street heard me, came over to me and started getting mad and shit. I was like.....dude, I wasnt even talking to you! How can you take offense to something that wasn't directed at you?!? I just dont understand guys.

[Steve-O]

Not for the Easily Offended

part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8A5ngy8-94
part2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syx9IyKmDxE
part3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie_UPZd0nKw
part4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQjB7nTpvwM
part5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAeYH8Dx9ew
part6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Q_bXGkRrE


funny as shit!OMFG i'm dyin here.
mutha freakin rep 4 j00!!!1!1!!11

p.s. check what i wrote in your rep bro. thanks a million :TU:

[jimmyb34]

i thinks its hilarious you put some ignorant shit in a title.. it got locked and now your making a thread asking whats racist and whats not..... LOL i hope this one gets locked too

[93civiccx]

I don't understand why its such a big deal. Its just another one of those names that you call people. I hear best friends calling eachother a mother fucker all the time and no one takes offense by it. A white guy doesnt take offense to being called a Cracker or Whitey. Black people call eachother nigger more often than anyone else does. I dont see how it makes any difference about who says it. I called by buddy a nigger one time and a black guy accross the street heard me, came over to me and started getting mad and shit. I was like.....dude, I wasnt even talking to you! How can you take offense to something that wasn't directed at you?!? I just dont understand guys.

Because they can't come up with a better comeback. It's all about getting money. Hey lets throw the race card and we'll sue them. Just like the stupid fuck that sued mcdonalds over hot coffee. Who the hell wants cold coffee? Everybody wants to be fuckin special. Liek gangs. Gangs are for pussies. If i want to fight someone I want to just fight them, not their 40 fuckin person posse. The only people that I've ever seen take offense to the n word is broke ass, livin on welfare, black people and that's becuase that's what they are. I know because I work with these people. Civilized, doing ok, black people won't take offense to that. I could go on all day about this shit. I was broke and trashy once and now I'm fine. Call me what you want. I don't give a shit.

[ryan89crx]

How can you take offense to something that wasn't directed at you?!?ding ding ding!!!!!

[99EJ6T]

How can you take offense to something that wasn't directed at you?

because it is easy to hate, harder to forget.

[" Low "]

i agree with the thread title that got changed and that started this thread....

it was uncalled for because no one person will take it the same as the other.....there are 15k+ members on here

N!@@3R riggin was a poor judgement choice for a title, no matter the intention of misharm.....

some one will get offended by it ..... white. black , asian, mexican, jdm...... it doesnt matter.......

hell i was gonna neg rep for the title till i saw some one else already wiped you out....
you in you own actions, caused this whole thing

you are old enough to know that the ''n'' word is off limits.....

now quit sulking about it, know that you go put in your place....

and most importantly,

learn from it.

[4gExpress]

i am a of mixed race decent of black ,and white. but have always been regarded ,and treated as black, but have strong opinions from both sides. where i live gang activity is present their are black gangs their are mexican gangs and of course white gangs. i have an uncle who is white who was in a black gang ,and has much respect til this day, and he was not the only one, i have seen white guys in mexican gangs ,and black guys in mexican gangs. the white gangs are only white gangs mostly with blonde hair ,and blue eyes if you know what i mean.


Yea same here.. I am mixed with black and white, however, I have always been regarded and treated as white... Kinda funny how 2 people, of mixed decent, can be brought up in a completely different way depending on where they live.

There is no doubt in my mind that of all the racial terms in the world, for example wetback, white trash, spic etc., nigger is the worst. It identifies with our country's past more than anything else does. There is no question that our country has a dark past that echoes in the present.

People need to chill... I mean check out dave chappelle... uses every "racist" word he can. But he's not a racist. If he is a racist, he's a universal racist. He makes fun of everybody including black people. Carlos Mencia also... makes fun of everyone. People just need to relax.... you can tell when someone really means something or not. If someone comes up to you spitting racism and looks pissed off, you know they mean it. You can tell if someone is being condescending or just screwing around.

[ryan89crx]

People need to chill... I mean check out dave chappelle... uses every "racist" word he can. But he's not a racist. If he is a racist, he's a universal racist. He makes fun of everybody including black people. Carlos Mencia also... makes fun of everyone. People just need to relax.... you can tell when someone really means something or not. If someone comes up to you spitting racism and looks pissed off, you know they mean it. You can tell if someone is being condescending or just screwing around.rep for that brother!! :TU:

[d-ranged]

yes slavery ended over 100 years ago. just forty years ago black people had to fight for the right to vote or sit on a bus ,and even eat at a restaurant. they fought hard for these rights that every other ethnicity enjoys because of that struggle. and yet black people are treated less than all. plus the generation that survived this struggle are still alive so more time is needed for this to pass

[JaredKaragen]

The whole spawn for this thread is the fact my thread was changed and locked for using a substitution for the N word.... rather, doing something like this: F$%k.

Will it get changed and/or closed because im using that word? [not even the word, I spelled it with 2 '&' instead of 'gga. It's the "Riggin FTW" thread.

Honestly, 'N' riggin is 'N' riggin... it has nothing to do with black ppl... im kinda upset that people can't take real-world American terminology that is accepted all over the whole US, and alot of the world without getting in a tiff and taking it personally for whatever reason....

Just like people say don't cuss, but isn't bitch an accepted word now? I believe we have grown out of the 1700's and 1800's long ago.... it's the people who were raised or grew up around racisim that incite it..... especially when it is directed at that specific group.

I really feel offended; I would think that non-racially projected terminology, even scensored for people who might not like the word themseles would be accepted.... just like calling your best friend a Jew bait.... does that mean im hating on jews and not being friendly?? and then should I be punished for it?

I mean c'mon... I didn't even spell it the "socially unaccepted", or "racially projected" way.

[spool'nsol]

geez if you didnt want to use the N word you should have made it called Afro Engineering ;)

[Clutchmaster]

I'm not going to get into this too much especially because i'm black. I only refer to a word or phrase that is used against my ethnic background in a derrogatory manner as racist but that's just me

[jimmyb34]

your offended because you put that in a title of a thread and it got locked...? your a fucking retard! this site has 15k+ members.... you dont do stupid shit like that REGARDLESS on how you may feel the word can be interpreted..... every member on here will take it differently

[d-ranged]

i take no offense to that terminology that could be a sick compliment just means you can make something outta nothing. i work constuction ,and all we do is slam eachother ,and make light of all of the stereotypes of all races ,and we laugh. i think california is a little more advanced in dealing with these issues, because of our cultural diversity. give the guy his rep back ,and stop being so sensitive. hey i married a white woman im doing my part eliminating racism one white woman at a time. another hundred years we will all have a mild tan ,and micheal jackson won't lighten his skin ,and white people won't need a tanning salon

[spool'nsol]

yes slavery ended over 100 years ago. just forty years ago black people had to fight for the right to vote or sit on a bus ,and even eat at a restaurant. they fought hard for these rights that every other ethnicity enjoys because of that struggle. and yet black people are treated less than all. plus the generation that survived this struggle are still alive so more time is needed for this to pass

Treated less than all my ass. I have nothing against black people but i didnt get my state job because there were 3 black applicants and me, and there were only 3 positions to fill. I don't want to hear the inequality or blah blah blah bullshit beause it's a thing of the past and there is no reason to dwell on it. I personally feel that white people if any are the most socially unequal these days. I'm sorry if you feel different but that's just my POV on the subject. The generation the survived this struggle are still alive? Of course they are, but most people these days WERE NOT around at that time, and there is no excuse for them to be shouting about they want equal rights or whatever the issues my be. IMO black folks just need to lighten up. As was said earlier, white people dont take offense the the very common "cracker" or whitey or whatever other slurs that may be around. I don't see why black people take such offense to the N word, escpecially when used the same way 99.99999999 percent of them use it toward their own race. It's one word of many, and obviously their mothers didn't teach them the common saying when they were children, "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".

[d-ranged]

geez if you didnt want to use the N word you should have made it called Afro Engineering ;)

i don't think McGyver was a black guy he was always riggin up shit afro engineering is a slam at race, and a poor attempt at humor.:slap:

[Steve-O]

i don't think McGyver was a black guy he was always riggin up shit afro engineering is a slam at race, and a poor attempt at humor.:slap:i personally love and always use the term "Mickey Mouse", "Mickey Moused" or "Mickey Mousing it" depending on the grammar and type of sentence it is being used in :TU:

[jimmyb34]

i tend to call it "redneck engineering" lol

[spool'nsol]

again, lighten up...im sure you have plenty of ways of joking on white people. It was just a joke, get over it

[Honda4VW]

i tend to call it "redneck engineering" lol

We here in Maine take offense to that

[spool'nsol]

people call me redneck, cracker, hick or whatever it may be, and you know what i tell them? Yeah and I'm fucking proud of it too.

[jimmyb34]

We here in Maine take offense to that

lol i live in ohio.. if i can say it here and noone gets pissed i could honestly care less.... lol
shit i could be considered a redneck....

[d-ranged]

i think something in spoolnsol has been released hes gettin quite heated. easy bro single words with double meanings. if you called eachother honkey or cracker or what ever the hell ,and black people you have not befriended said it to you. you would probably be offended

[jimmyb34]

i honestly could care less what anyone calls me... call me a cracker... whatever.. if you get yo jollies off by trying to put someone down i dont mind raising your self esteem a bit....

[Clutchmaster]

I think everyone shoudl just walk away form this thread before it get's outta hand

[spool'nsol]

lol naw not heated at all, i just tend to get into a discussion. Anyway, in a way you'd be right. If a black person walked up to me and said "you fuckin cracker", I would take offense to it. But the thing that bothers me is most (not all but a lot) seem to set this double standard. My friend or not, they believe it is o.k. to call me cracker (some of my black friends even call me "nigga") or whatever, and at the same time, will explode in rage if the n word happens to come out of my mouth. When expressed in a friendly manner, I believe people should take it for what it is, a word, and nothing else

[d-ranged]

thats what some think ,but im getting a lot from this. a point of view from all over the country. besides how racist can we all be when we all drive japanese cars a bit oxy moronic

[Steve-O]

honestly, if a black guy called me a cracker i would

a) instantaneously evaluate what i was doing to insitgate such a comment,
b) absorb the comment whilst considering a viable but respectful closing and deflating response then
c) WALK AWAY :sadface:

i used to get SOOOOOO mad if people flipped me off in traffic, yelled something at me driving by or were generally just moronic and immature. i found out that people calling you names or acting like asshats are childish and looking for attention or a rise out of you. whether or not go down to their level and play their game is up to you

i don't turn the other cheek all the time, but i'm learning more and more each day that it's better to do so and makes you feel like and be a better person.

[d-ranged]

lol naw not heated at all, i just tend to get into a discussion. Anyway, in a way you'd be right. If a black person walked up to me and said "you fuckin cracker", I would take offense to it. But the thing that bothers me is most (not all but a lot) seem to set this double standard. My friend or not, they believe it is o.k. to call me cracker (some of my black friends even call me "nigga") or whatever, and at the same time, will explode in rage if the n word happens to come out of my mouth. When expressed in a friendly manner, I believe people should take it for what it is, a word, and nothing else

true your friends are stupid for that. don't call anyone anything you would'nt want them to call you

[spool'nsol]

true your friends are stupid for that. don't call anyone anything you would'nt want them to call you

I agree with you 100% d-ranged. None of the people on this site should have racial issues with eachother. We all share a common interest, our hondas. Race is just a factor which makes each person an individual. I live in what is likely one of the most racist regions in the U.S., and I do not consider myself a racist, but when racism is directed toward me, I can't just ignore it. Not trying to be a racist of anything of that nature, but sometimes people have to get a taste of their own medicine, to help them see and learn that it can go both ways and everyone at one point or another may take offense to a racial slur.

[JaredKaragen]

There is no doubt in my mind that of all the racial terms in the world, for example wetback, white trash, spic etc., nigger is the worst. It identifies with our country's past more than anything else does. There is no question that our country has a dark past that echoes in the present....
... You can tell if someone is being condescending or just screwing around.

I don't see any censorship here.... see what I mean. :bull:

[JaredKaragen]

I'm not going to get into this too much especially because i'm black. I only refer to a word or phrase that is used against my ethnic background in a derrogatory manner as racist but that's just me

would you say the term "n rigging"[Mod safe typing] is a derrogitory slur twards black people?

[jimmyb34]

would you say the term "n rigging"[Mod safe typing] is a derrogitory slur twards black people?

it was changed and locked because IT OFFENDS PEOPLE, this is a public forum with 15k + members..... dont put stupid shit like that in a title plain and simple.. whats so hard to understand about that?

[spool'nsol]

I don't see any censorship here.... see what I mean. :bull:

i dont understand what position you are taking here jared

[spool'nsol]

it was changed and locked because IT OFFENDS PEOPLE, this is a public forum with 15k + members..... dont put stupid shit like that in a title plain and simple.. whats so hard to understand about that?

exactly, its called respect

[" Low "]

would you say the term "n rigging"[Mod safe typing] is a derrogitory slur twards black people?

yeah, it is implying that black people arent educated to do it the right way.....or that only a black person would do this, in esscence puttin you down for being uneducated ......not uneducated in general but about the task at hand.....

which should be judged by the PERSON not there RACE..... jerry rigged would have gotten you farther than the N word....regaurdless on how it was spelled

[JaredKaragen]

i work constuction ,and all we do is slam eachother ,and make light of all of the stereotypes of all races ,and we laugh. i think california is a little more advanced in dealing with these issues, because of our cultural diversity. give the guy his rep back ,and stop being so sensitive.

People go off the rocker over stupid shit sometimes, and when EQUAL RIGHTS is involved..... which is what this is about right? keeping others from being offended? these actions offended me.

Sorry I am relaxed, sorry I speak in a way that offends you but it is recognized in the world, and used daily everywhere... if you call these things a slur you must have trouble looking past your own likes and dislikes; the world can't snowboard cause you hate it.

One of the main points of this thread is to show how NOBODY ELSE has been repromanded or had their posts changed for ACTUAL and UNCENCORED words.

This is my problem.... you speak of being fair to others and not use slurs?

So do I get banned if I call you Jewish?

[jimmyb34]

noone else has been repremanded because they are not using the words in a derogatory manner..... they are stating what peopel are called and saying their opinion if it is right or wrong.. you still manage to keep avoidingm y comment as to why it was locked etc.. maybe because you realize that you have NOTHING to argue about here.. if you dont like it then go somewhere else.. im sure youll get the same thing at any other site

[" Low "]

So do I get banned if I call you Jewish?
jewish is a religion, n@#$$%r is a defamation of character....

[JaredKaragen]

so when I say "What's up ni$#%#$" to my good friend I see every day I am degrading his character?

[" Low "]

the word is demeaning no matter how you use it.....it shouldnt be a word , so in essence you are degrading your friend....

[JaredKaragen]

People could be born Jewish and be it because of heritage... some choose; most didn't have the choice... they were born a Jew right? Your wrong.

Being Jewish has a context to it: I.E. I was born Jewish, thus I'm a Jew.

If I say "That guy was Jewish" you know why I say it right?

WRONG.... You know nothing about him[no info], you also know nothing about the reference to why....

Now think about this....


would ANY person in their RIGHT MIND walk up to a black guy and blindly call him a "N-rigger"? and furthermore, would you say that it's very likely that 80%+ of the english speaking population of the world knows the "Inside meaning" [not slurish from the slavery south] of the term?

[JaredKaragen]

so your telling me that he is degrading himself by saying it? You know nothing about him and his feelings do you not? Your putting YOUR feelings instead of his..... not a good idea in real life bro.


You can keep saying it is that way regardless, but I must enlighten you: Society is greater and more complex than your feelings.

BTW: Didn't Bitch used to be a cuss word instead of a widely used and accepted word???? Just like the word Shit is becoming?

Why?

Because people grow out of childish feelings.

FYI: I'm not trying to start shit here... I am trying to enlighten people to their own downfalls.

[" Low "]

People could be born Jewish and be it because of heritage... some choose; most didn't have the choice... they were born a Jew right? Your wrong.

Being Jewish has a context to it: I.E. I was born Jewish, thus I'm a Jew.

If I say "That guy was Jewish" you know why I say it right?

WRONG.... You know nothing about him[no info], you also know nothing about the reference to why....

Now think about this....


would ANY person in their RIGHT MIND walk up to a black guy and blindly call him a "N-rigger"? and furthermore, would you say that it's very likely that 80%+ of the english speaking population of the world knows the "Inside meaning" [not slurish from the slavery south] of the term?

why does it have to be a black guy, would you go up to anyone and use white trash, spic, wetback, jew, otr any of the likes...? at any rate that word iss associated with, being black/ uneducated... and is not cool, you used it, got rep takin away and are bitching about it more.... suck it up and be glad you didnt get banned.

[" Low "]

so your telling me that he is degrading himself by saying it? You know nothing about him and his feelings do you not? Your putting YOUR feelings instead of his..... not a good idea in real life bro.


You can keep saying it is that way regardless, but I must enlighten you: Society is greater and more complex than your feelings.

BTW: Didn't Bitch used to be a cuss word instead of a widely used and accepted word???? Just like the word Shit is becoming?

Why?

Because people grow out of childish feelings.

FYI: I'm not trying to start shit here... I am trying to enlighten people to their own downfalls.
i dont take any offence to it, i have seen both sides of the picture, you being white calling me white trash isnt as hurtful and hatred, as calling someone black a N(*&^%R..... regaurdless of who your friends with, and how you say/mean it...... it shouldnt be said.

[JaredKaragen]

What about everyone else then?

I see an overwhelming 2-1 that it aint a slur.... it's a slur when DIRECTED TWARDS SOMEONE.

It woulda been bad if I had said "I got my shit rigged like only a n$%^$ would!"

That's demeaning.

Think about it.

I know English, I know society, I know Psycology, and I know a bit of how the world works.....

U have yet to prove how it was a slur directed at anyone..... especially by context..... funny thing is most ppl agree with me 100%.... sorry you can't see past your own feelings.
No comment on the Jewish contexts that were corrected for you.... funny.

I know race and religion are seperate, but:

Jewish is both.

How can it not be demeaning...

Why are you favoring something that you think is referring to a black guy?

so if I said "It's raining cat's and dog's" you would take me literally?

[JaredKaragen]

It's a shame people take things the wrong way soo much in life....

Another reason why governments went soo corrupt.....

but that's another discussion in itself.

[CIVICRicerBoy]

BTW: Didn't Bitch used to be a cuss word instead of a widely used and accepted word???? Just like the word Shit is becoming?

You should do some research. Do me a favor and go look up how SHIT became a word to start with. Actually. I'll do it for you. One moment please.

[" Low "]

What about everyone else then?

I see an overwhelming 2-1 that it aint a slur.... it's a slur when DIRECTED TWARDS SOMEONE.

It woulda been bad if I had said "I got my shit rigged like only a n$%^$ would!"

That's demeaning.

Think about it.

I know English, I know society, I know Psycology, and I know a bit of how the world works.....

U have yet to prove how it was a slur directed at anyone..... especially by context..... funny thing is most ppl agree with me 100%.... sorry you can't see past your own feelings.
No comment on the Jewish contexts that were corrected for you.... funny.

I know race and religion are seperate, but:

Jewish is both.

How can it not be demeaning...

Why are you favoring something that you think is referring to a black guy?

so if I said "It's raining cat's and dog's" you would take me literally?
the term was used to describe a race, raining ing cats and dogs is an implication of raining harder than normal..... and the jewish thing..... lets focus on one subject at a time.....

[JaredKaragen]

"It shouldn't be stated"

now... is this your feeling? or is it how the world works?

[CIVICRicerBoy]

Email text contributed by V. Anderson, 28 Aug 2002:

Subject: Fabulous bit of historical knowledge

Ever wonder where the word "shit" comes from. Well here it is:

Certain types of manure used to be transported (as everything was back then) by ship. In dry form it weighs a lot less, but once water (at sea) hit it. It not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by-product is methane gas.

As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen; methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern. BOOOOM!

Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was discovered what was happening.

After that, the bundles of manure where always stamped with the term "S.H.I.T" on them which meant to the sailors to "Ship High In Transit." In other words, high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.

Bet you didn't know that one.




Maybe you should do more research. I know that ''shit'' has nothing to do with what this thread got started for but maybe, since you don't know what you're talking about with this, you should do some research on some other stuff.

[" Low "]

just because the term is as easily accepted as friend doesnt discern from it's roots....

[" Low "]

"It shouldn't be stated"

now... is this your feeling? or is it how the world works?

both as i/we have a place in this world...... think of where we would be with out that term....?

[CIVICRicerBoy]

By the way, HOW IGNORANT CAN YOU BE?

[spool'nsol]

there is a few words all/most of us use a lot that refer to other races, but this does not necessarily deem it demeaning to the said race/religion. For example, if my friend bought a 25 dollar part for 60 bucks, i would tell him he got "jewed". this not in any way a derrogatory term towards jewish people. I think these terms can only be defined as demeaning by the context in which they are used.

[" Low "]

For example, if my friend bought a 25 dollar part for 60 bucks, i would tell him he got "jewed". this not in any way a derrogatory term towards jewish people. I think these terms can only be defined as demeaning by the context in which they are used.
how is that not being demeaning towards jewish peeps, you are impliying as a whole jewish people charge more for stuff than others.....? that jews rip people off.....?

[CIVICRicerBoy]

IBTL

[spool'nsol]

how is that not being demeaning towards jewish peeps, you are impliying as a whole jewish people charge more for stuff than others.....? that jews rip people off.....?

nothing against you low eg-t, but you obviously are not comprehending the term "jewed" correctly. "Jewed" refers to being screwed, I.E. the jewish were screwed in the holocaust of germany, and in so many other ways throughout history. In this context, it is not putting down jewish people or anything like that, jsut referring to a time in history that is similar (to an extent) to the matter at hand.

[" Low "]

nothing against you low eg-t, but you obviously are not comprehending the term "jewed" correctly. "Jewed" refers to being screwed, I.E. the jewish were screwed in the holocaust of germany, and in so many other ways throughout history. In this context, it is not putting down jewish people or anything like that, jsut referring to a time in history that is similar (to an extent) to the matter at hand.

ok i can see that aspect of it and i can agree with it, but this just goes as an example on different people taking things in different ways, and why certain things should not be said in public places.....

[Bizzar]

I'm a nigger he's a nigger she's a nigger we's a nigger wouldnt you like to be a nigger too.

You all need to go listen to some NWA Thread closed.

[S Q A D]

this never should have been a debate

JaredKaragen,the oP - is a fucking retard

his mental hopsital accidently gave him access to the computer lab