AEM EMS vs. NEP TUNE

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experience any one..??? what too choose. THANKS!!

[NEP-tuningalltheway]

NEPtune

[pearl62]

I use the EMS... I picked up 20whp over the stock P2P ECU! Not sure about Neptune. Can't it only be installed by a dealer? The EMS is plug'n play and you tune from a generic base map. There's tons of info on the AEM forums also.

[NEP-tuningalltheway]

ya neptune can only be bought at a dealer but most of the neptuners are fucking bad ass i'd only do neptune or crome

[PghSOHC]

AEM EMS FTW!!!!! soooo many variables to play with....EVERYTHING actually

[" Low "]

neptune, for the whole kit and kaboodle.....

fuck aem.... piece of shit ems

[NEP-tuningalltheway]

ya the aem is hella over priced

[Chiovnidca]

I picked up a used aemems a couple years ago. Just about anything you can think of is adjustable. Takes a bit of trial and error to figure out how it all works. 400+hp d16z6 makes me happy. :)

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ya the aem is hella over priced

and shit to work with.......i dumped my turbo b16 way back that was aem tuned.... i threw that fucking paperweight in the trash and went nep.

[" Low "]

I picked up a used aemems a couple years ago. Just about anything you can think of is adjustable. Takes a bit of trial and error to figure out how it all works. 400+hp d16z6 makes me happy. :)

glad you got it to work, but me tony palo, and allen sturgeon were hella pissed tryin to tune it....

you might have heard the name tony palo before he has drivin 2 diff cars on pinks and used to tune for bob norwood......

[pearl62]

Well, when and if Neptune is ever available directly to end users, I may buy one as an upgrade. Today though, I don't have any Neptune dealers near me, so I can't get one even if I wanted it...

In the mean time, the AEM EMS does a pretty good job.

[hcivicbrat]

I really don't know what aem ems has to offer.I'm really happy with neptune.
The two step and the antilag boost is kick ass!!!! :TU:

[dubbedcorde]

i know there ems isnt the same as my intake but after i got my aem cai for my 06 fg1 i will never buy anything aem again. they went down hill

[DOHCDX]

i'll stick with CROME thanks. it really doesn't matter what EMS you go with, as long as you have someone tuning with it that knows what the hell they're doing.

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.. 1800$ = aem ems, 1800$=nap ???? , 1800$= crome...???. cant find any product on crom, nap sites.. only info . any one know what they can deliver for that price...? thinking boost ,non v-tec , bad ass fuel and Ignition tables, lunch 2 step,non piggy back M;

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thanks to all ...

[eg4]

If monbey isnt the problem, an standalone is always better as an stock ecu with limited functions. But only if you are familar with all functions

[k1dfreeze]

what about hydra ems? y is this never considered? and no, im not getting anything from this, even tho my friend's friend is north america distributor, thats not the point...

http://www.hydraems.com/

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motec m4 ftw...... with the dis conversion even how bout dem' apples

[pearl62]

Looks interesting...

[k1dfreeze]

how bout dem' apples
how bout dem? how bout deez?
http://webpages.csus.edu/~ma28/red%20apples.jpg

[EJ1All-Star]

i have neptune, seems good, i havn't really read up on it to know what it fully does.

[pearl62]

.. 1800$ = aem ems, 1800$=nap ???? , 1800$= crome...???. cant find any product on crom, nap sites.. only info . any one know what they can deliver for that price...? thinking boost ,non v-tec , bad ass fuel and Ignition tables, lunch 2 step,non piggy back M;

Not sure about the others, but AEM EMS can do 2 step, anti-lag, knock control, EGT control, 02 feedback, boost control, nitrous control, traction control, automatic transmission control and even variable valve control. VTEC or non-VTEC is completely up to configuration. There are compensation calibrations for almost anything,

There are even dedicated monitoring LCD displays available like this -> http://www.gauge-tech.com/
Or even entire clusters like this -> http://www.aimsports.com/products/AEM-digital-display/index.html

It really is a very powerful system. Sure, it's a lot of hard work to do on your own, but any good tuner can get you going pretty quickly. My tuner got it running really well (+20whp over stock P2P) in just 1 hour. Maybe another hour or 2 and he could have gotten all the part throttle dialed in well too. I don't think he ever used an AEM EMS before.

And, since it's not that easy for everybody, you can benefit and pick one up used for cheap!! That what I did... $800!

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how bout dem? how bout deez?
http://webpages.csus.edu/~ma28/red%20apples.jpg

fucker, now i want a damn apple....:haha:

[siregcivic]

im running uberdata obd1 p06 to vtec... 2 step is the best thing in the world... i guess if i ever make over 300whp ill consider a standaloe over a honda ecu but for a street car.. its really not worth it..

:TU:

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Not sure about the others, but AEM EMS can do 2 step, anti-lag, knock control, EGT control, 02 feedback, boost control, nitrous control, traction control, automatic transmission control and even variable valve control. VTEC or non-VTEC is completely up to configuration. There are compensation calibrations for almost anything,

There are even dedicated monitoring LCD displays available like this -> http://www.gauge-tech.com/
Or even entire clusters like this -> http://www.aimsports.com/products/AEM-digital-display/index.html

It really is a very powerful system. Sure, it's a lot of hard work to do on your own, but any good tuner can get you going pretty quickly. My tuner got it running really well (+20whp over stock P2P) in just 1 hour. Maybe another hour or 2 and he could have gotten all the part throttle dialed in well too. I don't think he ever used an AEM EMS before.

And, since it's not that easy for everybody, you can benefit and pick one up used for cheap!! That what I did... $800!I have many sleeples nights...thinking! but this may be what Im looking for ... loved aim sport.. aem+aim sport.... hehehe cool .. you dont need to track down every gauge , lets see where did I fit the new oljepresure gauge ???? ahhhh there it is ,didnt see it when driving 3 gear ..then psi gauge 5 gear ...lol.... thanks

[K2e2vin]

There's a reason why EMS is so powerful compared to Neptune and others:

Crome=stock Honda ECU
Hondata=stock Honda ECU
Neptune=stock Honda ECU
Uberdata=stock Honda ECU
AEM EMS=stand alone AEM EMS ECU

Crome, Neptune, etc. are just software programs used for creating maps, but still using stock Honda hardware. AEM EMS is a new ECU/hardware with their own software to configure it.

[1337]

I dont even want to get into this conversation.
Nep is awesome, a little more $$ then S300 but same options
AEM...Worked with it...not thrilled and not thrilled with the self learning options either...like if it detects any, ANY, knock it detunes itself...

Nep is only available thru certain distributors
Same with hondata and hydraems

AEM is widely known but very difficult if you have never used anything.
You can actually do a majority of AEM functions that you can with Hondata.
I love tuning on S300 simply because everything is there, and there is nothing hidden and it is FOR honda's.....wish they made something similar for my car....im stuck with either EMS or Hydra..

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I dont even want to get into this conversation.
Nep is awesome, a little more $$ then S300 but same options
AEM...Worked with it...not thrilled and not thrilled with the self learning options either...like if it detects any, ANY, knock it detunes itself...

Nep is only available thru certain distributors
Same with hondata and hydraems

AEM is widely known but very difficult if you have never used anything.
You can actually do a majority of AEM functions that you can with Hondata.
I love tuning on S300 simply because everything is there, and there is nothing hidden and it is FOR honda's.....wish they made something similar for my car....im stuck with either EMS or Hydra..I see , this maybe truble.. when it detunes , dose it pretune as well to the last fuction point? or do you need an base build up again..?

[BigTuna]

Electromotive TEC is the only system I have found to be worthwhile. No dizzy, No MSD, No resistor boxes, No bs CEL's, just simply makes power with zero issues.

Set it and forget it...