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SOHC_Rules
10-27-2006, 08:02 AM
I have 2 different wideband o2's in mind, and am considering, but im still undecided as to what one to get...

i am torn between the plx m300 and the ngk wb o2... what are some differences between these? do i need a narrowband output to datalog? or do i need a wideband output?

any opinions or input would be greatly appreciated :)
CrazyConscious
10-27-2006, 08:09 AM
I've got the PLX M300. I love it. It was easy to wire in for my stock o2 sensor before i went turbo. Then when i went turbo i just hooked up the wideband output to the ecu was all set.

PLX FTW!
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DOHCDX
10-27-2006, 08:58 AM
what's your budget?
do you need a gauge?
do you need programmable outputs?
what's the sensor cost to replace?

if you don't need a gauge (which 99% of people don't actually need one) the innovate LC-1 is the best sensor available, period. it has both simultaneous wide and narrowband outputs (which are fully programmable), it uses a cheap bosch sensor ($40 from VW to replace) and only costs $212 shipped new from innovate.
jimmyb34
10-27-2006, 02:42 PM
im running the ngk.. it was simple to hook up and datalogging is easy....
just ask 5speed4life lol
SOHC_Rules
10-27-2006, 04:23 PM
what's your budget?
do you need a gauge?
do you need programmable outputs?
what's the sensor cost to replace?

if you don't need a gauge (which 99% of people don't actually need one) the innovate LC-1 is the best sensor available, period. it has both simultaneous wide and narrowband outputs (which are fully programmable), it uses a cheap bosch sensor ($40 from VW to replace) and only costs $212 shipped new from innovate.

i want an lcd display... thats why i chose between the ngk and plx ones.

im running the ngk.. it was simple to hook up and datalogging is easy....
just ask 5speed4life lol
ngk it is :)
mikeD16Z6
10-27-2006, 06:19 PM
Make sure you put the sensor at least 16" downstream from the turbo. If the sensor gets too hot it can get damaged.

I've had a PLX M300 for over a year. Works great :TU:
SOHC_Rules
10-27-2006, 08:51 PM
Make sure you put the sensor at least 16" downstream from the turbo. If the sensor gets too hot it can get damaged.

thanks for the tip :TU:
ryan89crx
10-27-2006, 09:51 PM
I've had a PLX M300 for over a year. Works great :TU:i love mine! although i wish i had the 52mm gauge instead of the box. oh well, still a breeze to use
turboedpickup
10-27-2006, 11:08 PM
if you don't need a gauge (which 99% of people don't actually need one) the innovate LC-1 is the best sensor available, period.

you can use a wideband....tune without a gauge?

can you tune (boost per say) without using a gauge? (thread jack?)
ryan89crx
10-27-2006, 11:18 PM
you can use a wideband....tune without a gauge?

can you tune (boost per say) without using a gauge? (thread jack?)yes, as long as your tuning program has datalogging
DOHCDX
10-28-2006, 04:41 PM
no, the better question is... how CAN you tune with a gauge? you MUST datalog..... you'll never be able to keep track of the changes in AFRs over varying engine load and RPMs without logging
ryan89crx
10-28-2006, 07:46 PM
no, the better question is... how CAN you tune with a gauge? you MUST datalog..... you'll never be able to keep track of the changes in AFRs over varying engine load and RPMs without loggingyou dont HAVE to datalog. i do all my tuning without datalogging and my motor runs great almost 2yrs after boosting

i also tuned a bud's GSR, but only datalogged for the first 20 minutes...
SOHC_Rules
10-28-2006, 07:52 PM
no, the better question is... how CAN you tune with a gauge? you MUST datalog..... you'll never be able to keep track of the changes in AFRs over varying engine load and RPMs without logging

yeah im a noob to tuning and everything, but im quite sure you dont HAVE to datalog... i will datalog in the future, but right now its just not in the budget.
DOHCDX
10-28-2006, 08:06 PM
why not? $10 off ebay for a nokia DKU5 USB cable. CROME with quickRTP. connect to a laptop with freelog... datalogging for next to nothing

i'm sorry, but you simply cannot get an accurate tune without it
SOHC_Rules
10-28-2006, 08:22 PM
^^^ of course you cant get an accurate tune, and the cable, etc is in my budget, sure. i probably have 10 dollars in quarters right now.

if you want to send me a laptop then ill datalog, just for you.