<--- Just got Dynotuned!!

[crazyxzer0]

Anyways to start off things here is the post.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/Turbo/IMG_5373Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/Turbo/derrek10lbspump.jpg


Before:

170whp@6600rpm 147.91ftlbs@4500rpm Streettuned at 8psi


After:

228.01whp@6200rpm 218.06ftlbs@5400rpm Dynotuned at 10psi




The skip is where the signal couldn't be read by the computer. My 10mm spark plug wires are too thick. There was also a small spike right around 5400rpm area.. not sure if that is because VTEC is engaging at 5000rpm. It was streettuned on a P30 base map to begin with and VTEC was set to 5000rpm. Streettuned was in august and I've been driving it since like that getting almost damn good gas mileage (21mpg-33mpg depending if city/freeway + driving habits). This new tuned was this past weekend, so I will have to watch it for awhile.


Setup:

Spoolinperformance A/C Log Manifold
Spoolinperformance 2.5" Downpipe
Spoolinperformance Dumptube
Spoolinperformance Oil Line Kit
Garrett T3 "Super 60" .42/.48
Greddy Type S BOV
Tial 38mm Wastegate
Lucas 440cc Injectors
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
Streamline FMIC Piping
Drag FMIC
ARP Headstuds
Cometic Extreme Duty Headgasket
Hallman MBC
ATP couplers + Tbolt Clamps
Egay Testpipe
Apexi 60mm catback piping
Vibrant 2.5" Muffler
Crome Pro Chipped P28


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v167/spec1al/Friends%20and%20Family%20Cars/2006-9-22%20LowTec%20GGB/DSC_0157Tsized.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20061013%20Klasse%20Detail/DSC_0296sized.jpg

Im planning to go to the track in about 2 weeks so I'll let you know how fast it is.



D16Z6 STOCK 16.5@84mph
D16Z6 8PSI 14.5@95mph
D16Z6 10psi ??????????

[DOHCDX]

holy shit, that first dyno is lean as HELL. i hope those are not the actual AFRs, or after the cat or something

please post SAE corrected numbers for the new dyno

[dubbedcorde]

damn i hope sometime i can pull that from my lil 1.8 if u get it from your 1.6

[vtecduck]

nice numbers :TU:, Damn, another clean red, boosted ej on fat fives. I like it :D

[turboedpickup]

nice numbers :TU:, Damn, another clean red, boosted ej on fat fives. I like it :D

i was gonna say...

[ryan89crx]

10psi, nice!!

[Jcazz]

GOOD JOB! hey how does that T3 super 60 spool>?>? i am really interested in one of these Turbos...please let us know!

[Sohc Wrath]

Fucking sweet bro, nice numbers and clean ass car :TU:

[civic97]

clean ass car and very nice #'s:TU:

[hondalover22]

man great job, nice!!!

[clemsonvic]

nice numbers, that air fuel looks a little off i take it they werent measuring very accurate on that one, and im pretty sure the actual garrett t3 super 60 has a .60 intake and .63 exhaust. the .42/.48 garrett usually comes from the turbo saabs and volvos. people go around saying t3 super 60 without actually knowing so if it was sold to you as a super 60 you need to snatch some money back from someone

[Levi]

Nice numbers! Car looks awesome in those pics.

[Jcazz]

nice numbers, that air fuel looks a little off i take it they werent measuring very accurate on that one, and im pretty sure the actual garrett t3 super 60 has a .60 intake and .63 exhaust. the .42/.48 garrett usually comes from the turbo saabs and volvos. people go around saying t3 super 60 without actually knowing so if it was sold to you as a super 60 you need to snatch some money back from someone

Isnt there a T3 Super 60 Turbo with .42/.48 but just a 60 Trim...i thought that Turbonectics also made one....

[kyle h.]

maybe a 60 trim, rather than a super 60...

love the torque numbers!

[crazyxzer0]

hmm, I got the Turbo from Spoolinperformance.com

He said it was a T3 super 60 and the ar was .42/.48


I just quick searched on google and this is what I got..

http://turbo-store.stores.yahoo.net/gart3sup.html

its an internal wastegate super60 but it has the same A/R.





The first one the A/F was after the cat. at the exhaust. Anyways, Jason Leslie tuned my car and cleaned it up. I have yet to get a wideband o2 sensor and set it up. The 2nd dyno is corrected. But there is no way the A/F is that lean cause I know that my car would've BLOWN up by now if it was that lean..





T3 Super60... Full boost around 3800rpm :)

[Gabby]

nice numbers... turbo d's FTMFW!!!!!11

[jimmyb34]

man i need a turblower

[Levi]

JRL Tuning? I have never heard of them. Where exactly are they located?

[crazyxzer0]

In the BayArea.


Jason Leslie is the tuner, and it has a 9sec Turbo Civic sponsored by full race.. I believe he tunes that car himself also.

[Levi]

where in the bay area though? east bay by the looks of the phone number.

[crazyxzer0]

he doesnt have his own dyno. There is no shop. He is just one person that does this on a the side because his true job pays more. Just give him a call. He can streettune or dynotuned. He has dynotuned at DSR, DNR, Import Automotive.. etc.

[mikeD16Z6]

Good numbers man. Very clean car, very nice. :TU:

[pandorasbox]

Is this the one ya bought: http://www.spoolinperformance.com/garrett-super60-p-33.html ??
Oh and great build man. I plan on mine being very similar!:TU: :TU:

[clemsonvic]

hmm, I got the Turbo from Spoolinperformance.com

He said it was a T3 super 60 and the ar was .42/.48


I just quick searched on google and this is what I got..

http://turbo-store.stores.yahoo.net/gart3sup.html

its an internal wastegate super60 but it has the same A/R.





The first one the A/F was after the cat. at the exhaust. Anyways, Jason Leslie tuned my car and cleaned it up. I have yet to get a wideband o2 sensor and set it up. The 2nd dyno is corrected. But there is no way the A/F is that lean cause I know that my car would've BLOWN up by now if it was that lean..





T3 Super60... Full boost around 3800rpm :)


yeah i actually checked around apparently they do make a .42/.48 super 60 now. My statement I guess is more directed towards a few years back the explosion for the need of the "super 60" which was found on the earlier turbo buicks and chryslers. Either way its a kickass setup i hope to have a similar setup by next season

[kulo]

sweet numbers :)

[Jcazz]

3800RPM full boost....not bad! man i want my Super 60....."Sobs" lol...

[crazyxzer0]

Is this the one ya bought: http://www.spoolinperformance.com/garrett-super60-p-33.html ??
Oh and great build man. I plan on mine being very similar!:TU: :TU:

Since I am local, I bought it from the shop. I believe thats the Turbo.

[chowmien]

Damn how are all of you guys with almost the same setup as me making so much more torque? I make the same amount of whp as you do, but only 171wtq with the same turbo, same manifold, almost the same everything, but I get very little tq. The only thing I see better in my setup is my tq line holds steady and doesn't drop like yours and my hp keeps climbing.

Maybe it's because you are using the .42 compressor housing and I'm using the .60 housing? I honestly don't know, but those torque numbers are awesome.

[crazyxzer0]

err..


I'm not so sure why.. what are your specs for your setup?

[kyle h.]

also, chowmien, did you tune your setup on a dyno? ignition will play a huge factor in torque readout.

[Jcazz]

yea this is interesting someone chime in on this yeah....i would like to also know why his tq #'s are lower than his with same setup almost....

[spool'nsol]

good numbers

[SovXietday]

Great numbers!

Damn, I hope you're shifting at 7K lol. Upgrade your exhaust side to something a bit bigger, you're falling off really bad at the top.

Good numbers, but you definitely got higher torque numbers out of that spike. Looks to me like you peaked closer to 200, which still isn't bad at all. Great setup, and definitely shows how great a dyno tune really is.

The lower torque on the other setup is because of his exhaust housing. Flows a lot better, so he's not going to make as much torque.

[MyblkVTEC]

car looks great and the hp numbers are sweet!!

[chowmien]

Here are my specs:
Stock y7 block, stock y8 head, y8 intake mani, z6 tranny
T3 .60 Trim .60 / .48
Spoolin AC log, AC 2.5" dp, closed-loop dump tube
Tial 38mm wg
1g dsm bov
Stealthmode oil feed/return
2.5" ic piping
CCA 6" fmic
dsm 450's
Walbro 255lph
Joe P. mbc
GE vac mani
2.5" exhaust, carsound cat, 22" resonator, magnaflow oval
ACT XTSS clutch
ARP head studs
p28 w/ crome
Street tuned by David Lee

Dyno graph (only shows 213whp there, but dyno didn't rev all the way to 7200 so I'm estimating around 220whp and 160wtq at 7200): http://home.earthlink.net/~ricerocketx/dsc-p150/dyno.jpg

[SovXietday]

A) You were street tuned.
B) You have a larger exhaust housing.

Biggest differences that I see.

[myHonda1]

cleanest coupe eva!

I would love to see some vids, have any?

[crazyxzer0]

Great numbers!

Damn, I hope you're shifting at 7K lol. Upgrade your exhaust side to something a bit bigger, you're falling off really bad at the top.

Good numbers, but you definitely got higher torque numbers out of that spike. Looks to me like you peaked closer to 200, which still isn't bad at all. Great setup, and definitely shows how great a dyno tune really is.

The lower torque on the other setup is because of his exhaust housing. Flows a lot better, so he's not going to make as much torque.


Thanks for the comments

I like to have my car overall well. Handle well as well as have some power to back up that power. It seems I have met my goal for 200whp and then some! I chose the T3 super 60 because I wanted mid range power. This car is a daily driver that does mountain driving as well as drag racing and hopfully some roadracing in the future.


How big of an upset to the lower-midrange power will a larger exhaust do?

Definitely the spike 12psi made the 218tq but it is enough to spin tires in 2nd gear.. I'm still happy though..


Redline is 7200rpm so I guess 7k shift is better?




Here are my specs:
Stock y7 block, stock y8 head, y8 intake mani, z6 tranny
T3 .60 Trim .60 / .48
Spoolin AC log, AC 2.5" dp, closed-loop dump tube
Tial 38mm wg
1g dsm bov
Stealthmode oil feed/return
2.5" ic piping
CCA 6" fmic
dsm 450's
Walbro 255lph
Joe P. mbc
GE vac mani
2.5" exhaust, carsound cat, 22" resonator, magnaflow oval
ACT XTSS clutch
ARP head studs
p28 w/ crome
Street tuned by David Lee

Dyno graph (only shows 213whp there, but dyno didn't rev all the way to 7200 so I'm estimating around 220whp and 160wtq at 7200): http://home.earthlink.net/~ricerocketx/dsc-p150/dyno.jpg



Minor differences that I have from you:


1. Dynotuned
2. Open dumptube (not sure if that makes a difference besides loud noise)
3. Smaller exhaust housing
4. I have no cat
5. Your IC piping is smaller than mine (2" on hot side, 2.25 on cold side")
6. I have a 2.36" exhaust to a 2.5" muffler

not sure which one allow change for torque but those are it.




cleanest coupe eva!

I would love to see some vids, have any?


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=crazyxzer0

[SovXietday]

If you look at your dyno everything after about 6.5 just goes downhill, that exhaust turbine is getting choked up bigtime.

I'd say that putting a bigger exhaust housing might increase spool time by a few hundred RPMs, nothing major, but you'd see that graph continue you increase after 6 and not drop off until much later. You'd lose some torque down low, but you'd hold it a lot better up top. And as we all know, torque makes horsepower, the more torque you can hold on to the higher that graph will go.

Open the exhaust up to something bigger in diameter and I guarantee that you'll spool a larger exhaust housing at the same time you're spooling yours now, AND make more power.

Just my thoughts, of course every setup can be made better etc etc etc, but if you're happy with it then I'd say don't touch it until you want to go bigger. :)

[nation of kong]

nice numbers :TU:, Damn, another clean red, boosted ej on fat fives. I like it :D

remind you of somebody? lol

Definately nice numbers from 170 to 228 so thats like a 58hp jump. Crazy:TU:

[chowmien]

A) You were street tuned.
B) You have a larger exhaust housing.

Biggest differences that I see.

Street tuning and dyno tuning don't make much of a difference if both tuners know what they are doing. My tuner is a pretty well know one too.

His exhaust housing is the same size as mine. He's running the Garrett T3 "Super 60" which is essentially a T3 .60 trim with a .42 a/r compressor housing and a .48 a/r exhaust housing. I am using the exact same turbo, but I changed out the compressor housing for a larger .60 a/r housing.

Thanks for the comments
Minor differences that I have from you:


1. Dynotuned
2. Open dumptube (not sure if that makes a difference besides loud noise)
3. Smaller exhaust housing
4. I have no cat
5. Your IC piping is smaller than mine (2" on hot side, 2.25 on cold side")
6. I have a 2.36" exhaust to a 2.5" muffler

not sure which one allow change for torque but those are it.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=crazyxzer0

1. Shouldn't matter that much, but I may look into more tuning time.
2. Might be the cause, but shouldn't be that much of a diff.
3. Like said above, our exhaust housings are the same and turbo's are the same.
4. Might be the cat.
5. My IC piping is 2.5" all the way through, hot and cold sides.
6. If anything my 2.5" mandrel exhaust should flow better.

[crazyxzer0]

Street tuning and dyno tuning don't make much of a difference if both tuners know what they are doing. My tuner is a pretty well know one too.

His exhaust housing is the same size as mine. He's running the Garrett T3 "Super 60" which is essentially a T3 .60 trim with a .42 a/r compressor housing and a .48 a/r exhaust housing. I am using the exact same turbo, but I changed out the compressor housing for a larger .60 a/r housing.



1. Shouldn't matter that much, but I may look into more tuning time.
2. Might be the cause, but shouldn't be that much of a diff.
3. Like said above, our exhaust housings are the same and turbo's are the same.
4. Might be the cat.
5. My IC piping is 2.5" all the way through, hot and cold sides.
6. If anything my 2.5" mandrel exhaust should flow better.




Actually my Turbo is an interesting one.

COMPRESSOR SPECS: hi performance 60 trim WHEEL .42 A/R FLOW: 35lbs/min 422cfm TURBINE SPECS: 4bolt Turbine housing 68 TRIM WHEEL .48 A/R

is that the same as yours?

http://www.spoolinperformance.com/garrett-super60-p-33.html

[jdmsir20]

great setup crazy, i think i may have seen you on h-t...

we've got the exact same setup, spoolin mani, T3 super 60, etc etc... we'll compare numbers when i get tuned in january!

oh yeah, could you get a shot of your downpipe if possible? i started a thread on h-t just to find somebody with a super 60 and air conditioning lol

[crazyxzer0]

I dont have A/C on my car though...but the setup is A/C friendly.. But it doesnt clear the stock fan, you need a slim fan in order to clear it..

only pic I got right now..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/Turbo/IMG_4633Small.jpg

[xenocron]

nice numbers