Turbo install

[Slowhatch]

Having a 3 day weekend off of work I decided to put in my turbo since I pretty much had everything and I found out thursday that Randy at Exhaust Works could make me a downpipe. Little did I know I would get called in today at 5 and I started the install at 2, so all I got done was injectors, somewhat. On with the pics....
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Bye bye old injectors.

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Very dirty pic of the tip of them. Cant tell by the pics but my homie said that there was/is water in my gas just by looking at them.

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Dsm 450's ftw!
Forgot to take pics of me putting in the resistors, but i only have 3 of them in(stupid work). A lot more pics coming tomorrow.

UPDATE***
Didn't get as much done as I hoped, actually no where near where I hoped to be at this point. I finished off the injectors and did a test fire, removed ac, removed exhaust, and spent way to long bolting the hf manifold-adaptor-turbo together (I guess it helps to have the right sized bolts and not go back to ace 3 times).

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My little turbo and the custom gasket with high temp silicone gasket. It's a shame it took us the better part of an hour to put this damn thing together.

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No more A/C! You can see the splatter marks from when i unhooked one of the lines after starting the car and not releasing pressure again.

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Pink heatshrink! Yay.

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A pic of the injectors completely installed and in working order. Thanks go to Bizzar for the write up.

UPDATE***
A few problems arrived with the w/g I bought. Since it was of unknown origin, I later figured it out to be sspos and it was missing the seal ring. I found a place to buy the seal ring and bought a 5.8~ psi spring (its only going to be "tuned" with a vafc2). Not a day after buying the spring and seal ring I learn that bmc lost my order info due to a ''site bug'' (after about a week and a half) and needed to know what I bought for 26$. I sent the email back and they 2 day aired it to me saturday so I'm expecting to start putting everything back on and head down to exhaust works by friday.

[4Door Life]

so, what are the resitors for that are in the pink shrink wrap...? for us non turbo guys i need a lil more detail...lol thank you, Brian

[Slowhatch]

its so i can run the dsm injectors without burning up something i dont want to lol. i think its like the injector control module or something like that.

[thsmrtone1]

when peak and hold injectors (dsm usually) are put in a car that use saturated injectors, the injectors need resistors to convert a low resistance signal to a high resistance signal

[4Door Life]

when peak and hold injectors (dsm usually) are put in a car that use saturated injectors, the injectors need resistors to convert a low resistance signal to a high resistance signal

no kidding...

this poses a question for me then...
PM me if it's cool cause i don't want to highjack his thread...
my question has to do with my speedo is why... thank's...

[Clutchmaster]

what's your setup

[Slowhatch]

stock block
Garrett t3 (supposedly a t3/t4 but im not to sure about it)
hf manifold
dsm 450's
custom downpipe
vafc2
I/C from autoworks (i think)

[hondalover22]

looks good man, good luck

[gpny]

I'm a little concerned with the red sealant you're using on your flanges...
Are you using metal gaskets pre-turbo? or just that stuff? Also, how much of that stuff did you put?
Silicone based stuff will burn off right away. I think it's good to 600f, whereas your exhaust is around 1200F.
Also, if you put too much of it, and it seeped out on the inside of the flange, it's going to go right into your turbo... That might not damage it, if you're lucky, but it could...
I wouldn't risk the turbo on 10$ worth of gaskets. Use the oem one on the manifold side, and the correct turbo one on the other side.

[modsHXcivi]

Good luck with the build....

Loose the gasket sealer :TD:
Get real gaskets ...:TU:

[DOHCDX]

that wiring looks JANK. solderless honda OEM resistor box install > inline resistors x 100000000

definitely run a real gasket. boost leaks SUCK and cause lots of problems.

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=736737

[CrazyConscious]

Looks like a decent set up

[Got Vtec?]

I hear ya with the manifold an turbo man. It took me and a buddy about the same time to mash mine together. I had to drill out the adapter plate I got though to run the bolts through it.

I too used a little bit of that liquid gasket stuff. So far its holding up pretty good. No leaks that I can see or hear anyways.

My next step is the injectors and running a chipped ECU.

Goo luck with the build up man. HMT FTW!

[EG6-Jarhead]

:TU: looks good bro

[Slowhatch]

ran into a BIG problem today, the waste gate hits the ps bracket but it would still hit the block with the ps off. i couldve avoided this if i did mock-up correctly, but i didnt of course, so now im in a very desperate situation and broke. i need to find an internally gated manifold for around 200$ or another flange that does a 45 at least 2inches away from the block. also that orange silicone gasket stuff was on when my brothers civic was turbocharged and it was fine up until he took off his turbo, which was after like 6 or 7months. oh and i did use an oem gasket for the block to manifold and a custom cut-out gasket for the hotside to internal wastegate thing.

[stevec]

good luck with your project

[4Door Life]

ran into a BIG problem today, the waste gate hits the ps bracket but it would still hit the block with the ps off. i couldve avoided this if i did mock-up correctly, but i didnt of course, so now im in a very desperate situation and broke. i need to find an internally gated manifold for around 200$ or another flange that does a 45 at least 2inches away from the block. also that orange silicone gasket stuff was on when my brothers civic was turbocharged and it was fine up until he took off his turbo, which was after like 6 or 7months. oh and i did use an oem gasket for the block to manifold and a custom cut-out gasket for the hotside to internal wastegate thing.

i dont know much about turbos but is re-clocking it out of the question...

[lsturbohatch10]

my turbo will be mounted facing the passengers side. i belive that would fix your problem. but the dp would be a tight squeeze between the ps pump

[JaredKaragen]

Either that, or you might be able to angle the manifold or adaptor plate to make the room for you (take it to a machine shop). It may require you to drill out the holes and re-bolt...

[CoreyR]

ran into a BIG problem today, the waste gate hits the ps bracket but it would still hit the block with the ps off. i couldve avoided this if i did mock-up correctly, but i didnt of course, so now im in a very desperate situation and broke. i need to find an internally gated manifold for around 200$ or another flange that does a 45 at least 2inches away from the block. also that orange silicone gasket stuff was on when my brothers civic was turbocharged and it was fine up until he took off his turbo, which was after like 6 or 7months. oh and i did use an oem gasket for the block to manifold and a custom cut-out gasket for the hotside to internal wastegate thing.

just flip the turbo around, the downpipe will just have to do a 180 after it comes out of the flange, not a big deal really.

[Slowhatch]

my turbo will be mounted facing the passengers side. i belive that would fix your problem. but the dp would be a tight squeeze between the ps pump
i thought about it but i dont think i have enough ic piping plus i dont know how i would run the piping. and clocking the turbo is out of question since the wastegate has to stay in that spot to line up with the little valve thing on the hot side. getting a mani from thsmrtone1, 2nd daying it. thanks a lot bro!

[thsmrtone1]

i thought about it but i dont think i have enough ic piping plus i dont know how i would run the piping. and clocking the turbo is out of question since the wastegate has to stay in that spot to line up with the little valve thing on the hot side. getting a mani from thsmrtone1, 2nd daying it. thanks a lot bro!

no prob... glad to help a brotha out

[ejoneabee]

keep up the good work man! looks good.

[Slowhatch]

UPDATE**** Just bought an external w/g from lsturbo hatch, thanks a lot, and an exhaust flange for the turbo since i will be taking off the cover thing that attaches to the internal w/g

[Slowhatch]

***UPDATE on first page

[Slowhatch]

UPDATE***
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Sort of bolted up, just need to get the turbo gasket from my cousin and put on the exhaust manifold gasket.

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Oil pan is now tapped with only the steel braided line from the tuner toys return line kit, since the brass fittings were too small for the hose and the turbo fitting.

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My 2nd Autozone radiator cracked about 2months after putting it in, I took it out so it would be easier to acces the bolts for the intercooler and replace it.

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My dad screwed this fucker on so tight we couldn't get it off! So we used the screw driver and hammer trick, works every time.

Instead of using the oil pressure from the sender I'm going to buy a sandwich plate from Apex, discounted 'cause I'm cool like that, and like 6 U bends from Dons Hot Rod Shop so that Willie at Exhaust Works can make me a full 2.5inch exhaust for 150$. (The downpipe will be 2'' then flare up to 2.5'' right before the cat) Someone my cousin knows at Apex is going to dyno tune my car with my vafc2 and their wideband for ~50$ an hour.

[Slowhatch]

Around 9 PM Mtn time my car officially became force fed. I fired her up and let her run for a little while, then shut 'er down. I don't have the blow-off valve hooked up yet (its on but no vacuum to it), im about to post a question about the vacuum situation, so I couldn't hit the throttle hard, but I did hit it hard enough so i could hear the turbo spool. Anyways on with the pictures...
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The last one is a front mount shot I tried to get but couldn't and I'm tired so I didn't attempt to take another one. Tell me what you guys think!

[thsmrtone1]

looks good!! you like the mani?

[Slowhatch]

looks good!! you like the mani?
sure do! fits nicely

[rattmann316]

nice work man. i had problems with my vacuum routing as well. plus i heard conflicting information about where to run vacuum.

do you have a vacuum mani? what is your source of vacuum (brake booster?) bottom section of wastegate should be run to the compressor side of turbo. top portion can be left to atmosphere. hook up both halves for the blow off valve tho for faster response. i can recall where to run those right now but maybe someone else will chime in.

[thsmrtone1]

i cant really tell from the picture, but if that fitting on the oilpan starts to leak, slap some jbweld on it... JBWELD FTW!!

[siregcivic]

just flip the turbo around, the downpipe will just have to do a 180 after it comes out of the flange, not a big deal really.

ya thats what i thought when i went to install mysetup.. so i did it and the turbo inlet was hitting the block by the engine code...

what u do is make a custom bracket like i did and mount it like this.. kinda ghetto i know but.. what else can u do

oh ya btw.. i had to take the filter off to access the wg actuator.. i do not run open turbo like that at all

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[SpoolinSol]

Make a dp yet? Make sure to post pics when you do...

[necro]

Nice setup

[Slowhatch]

Make a dp yet? Make sure to post pics when you do...
it'll be made on friday or saturday, a day to get some pipe bends and the other for the guy to weld them together. he quoted me 150$ to do my exhaust only if i provide him the bends, cat, muffler, and the flange for the turbo. it'll be mandrel bended but that still sounds kidna high to me, especially for a "homie discount"

also why would i run the vacuum line to the compressor? my cousin told me that the bottom one should go to a vacuum source and the top only connected to the compressor if its interrupted by a mbc. he had the same w/g on his integra, so i just took his word for it.

[rattmann316]

also why would i run the vacuum line to the compressor? my cousin told me that the bottom one should go to a vacuum source and the top only connected to the compressor if its interrupted by a mbc. he had the same w/g on his integra, so i just took his word for it.

i have no idea honestly. thats how it was routed in the instructions and when i called up turbonetics thats how they said it should be run. like i said, i dont know dick about vacuum.

[jhovtec]

Looks really good! I was wondering what dimensions are the FMIC?

[thsmrtone1]

also why would i run the vacuum line to the compressor? my cousin told me that the bottom one should go to a vacuum source and the top only connected to the compressor if its interrupted by a mbc. he had the same w/g on his integra, so i just took his word for it.

the wastegate opens when it sees a certain positive pressure. it doesnt matter whether it is hooked up to the compressor or your intake manifold, it will see positive pressure no matter what. however, if it is hooked up to the intake manifold, it will see the pressure of the compressed air after it gets cooled (thus condensed) by the intercooler, allowing for a truer boost amount. but being hooked up to the IM, it will also take longer for the wastegate to see the pressure because the source of the vacuum/pressure is measured 4 feet from the wastegate (as opposed to half a foot from the compressor).

the blowoff valve on the other hand, needs negative pressure to open/blowoff. when the pressure in the charge piping is positive, and the pressure in the intake manifold is negative, the bov bypasses the air in the charge piping into the atmosphere...

moral of the story: everything can be hooked to the intake manifold, but the wastegate is the only thing that doesnt have to be.

(sorry about the novel... im bored and tired of studying)

[siregcivic]

yep.. i had my wastegate hooked up to the im.. it would hit 10psi for a second then go down to 8.. its hooked up to the turbo now.. much better:TU:

[hyisbm]

[QUOTE=Slowhatch;690266]it'll be made on friday or saturday, a day to get some pipe bends and the other for the guy to weld them together. he quoted me 150$ to do my exhaust only if i provide him the bends, cat, muffler, and the flange for the turbo. it'll be mandrel bended but that still sounds kidna high to me, especially for a "homie discount"

so, is he providing anything else other than welding your parts together? If he's not, that doesn't sound like a homie discount to me either.

[Slowhatch]

[QUOTE=Slowhatch;690266]it'll be made on friday or saturday, a day to get some pipe bends and the other for the guy to weld them together. he quoted me 150$ to do my exhaust only if i provide him the bends, cat, muffler, and the flange for the turbo. it'll be mandrel bended but that still sounds kidna high to me, especially for a "homie discount"

so, is he providing anything else other than welding your parts together? If he's not, that doesn't sound like a homie discount to me either.
nope just bending the pipes. im gonna see what the shop says thats just down my street so i dont have to drive across town with no exhaust and o2 sensor.

thanks tone for the novel, it really helped :) ill hook it up to the turbo when i get the rest of the bumper cut out and a new radiator hose.