Question on my 1/4 mile time

[crohnman6]

Ok tonight i went up to indy fortusday night street legals. I odnt have have a scanner but here is what my sheet said exactly. But i think with some practice on my drivng skills i coulf get a 15.4 My buddy ran a 15.6 with the same car as me except he has all power accessories and just an ebay CAI and a header. I drive a 94 coupedx all my mods are listed in my sig. Thanks for any comments. Plus the light bar wasnt working right tonight just flashed one red then green. but anyway heres what my time slip says exactly.

R/T... .432 < bad because light bar was messed up
60'... 2.555
330... 6.989
1/8... 10.593
MPH.. 67.63
1000... 13.728
1/4... 16.353
MPH... 86.20

[nathan]

Well, first off, reaction time has nothing to do with your ET so I wouldn't worry about it - that, and at a lot of tracks, a .423 would have been a redlight (.500 and under).

Second...

Most of your time was lost in the 60' ...work on your launch. I pulled 2.4 and 2.3 outta horrible stock mismatched cheapo tires on a stock D16Y8...so you should be able to pull at LEAST a 2.3 or 2.2 outta your car.

Your trap speed is about what you'd need for a mid 15 second pass - they say .1 at the 60' is worth a lot more at the end of the track (And they're right since a lot of the race is spent in those 60'). I believe the rule is soething like .1 at the 60' is .2 at the end of the track....so you might see a 15.5-15.8 with reasonable driving depending :).

To give you an idea...bone stock (off the dealer floor condition), I ran 16.4@83 or 84mph just to give you an idea...that's in a 2600lb (as weighed with driver) car. 60' on that run was 2.44

Nathan

[sickness_d6]

i think you should be getting better times......i ran 16.669 in a 984dr dx even so i think i can do better......only removed the spare tire....i was running a short ram intake, z6Im with h22 tb, 2 piece header, a muffler and a blaster coil. so with all that stuff you have i think you should be for sure in the high 15's.

[NEP-tuningalltheway]

what did you launch at? i know with my civic i'd launch at 6k with the b7 a6 cam set up anything lower than that was pointless

[crohnman6]

i was launching at like 3 anything over i just spin or hop really

[sickness_d6]

your launching to low man...launch at around 5k and play with your tire presure i was running 14's steelies i had my tires at around 15psi

[njn63]

Nathan covered everything i was going to say. In general .1 in the 60' is good for .2 on the top end so you could realistically get down to 15.4X with a very good 60' (2.1ish)

[Misfit]

first off the idea that anything under .500 being a redlight is false. my best firends girlfriend, yes shes a female. has ran numerous .001 reaction times. shes a drag racing phenom.

your 60' could use some work. depending on your setup try to launch at around 4k and let out on the clutch slower while giving the gas more. you want to try to get as much power to the ground as possible without spinning any at all.

your biggest problem is your transmission, if you still have the stock DX tranny. the gears in that thing are made for an airplane in my opinion. worste transmission ever for straight line racing.

i think after a few times at the track and some practice launching your car AND a EX tranny you could be hitting high 9s in the 8th and mid 15s in the quarter. your MPH look good enough for it in my opinion

[crohnman6]

i have an ex tranny in witha 6 puck clutch and 12lb flywheel but right now it grinds going into second i slammed it in there

[njn63]

first off the idea that anything under .500 being a redlight is false. my best firends girlfriend, yes shes a female. has ran numerous .001 reaction times. shes a drag racing phenom.

It depends on the track. I'm pretty sure most tracks have gone to .000 perfect lights but up until last year my local track hadn't. It doesn't change the actual time you launch any of course, just the way the timeslip looks.

What's her average reaction time? Not doubting her at all, reaction times are not that hard to cut when you get some seat time, but i always hear people talking about how great their lights are and showing off their 2 best. Shit, i cut a .014 light 2nd pass :)

[crohnman6]

1.3 is my bvest but ive only gone tot the track twice 9 runs in total

[nathan]

none the less, even if the notion is false...there ARE tracks that say it's a redlight - it depends on their RULES. Pro events usually say 0.000 and below is a red light.

I can hit a 0.1 light pretty easily myself. So it annoys me when the track is running the .500 rule.

Anyhow, launching too low... your on street tires, you will spin the hell outta first gear...just feather it a little. I actually got my best time fully stock when I let it bounce off the rev limiter (spinning the whole time)...let it hook and then shift at redline again....as my stock clutch wasn't working with me on the feathering note :).

Sticky tires (read: BFG, bad ass f-ing grip), and a few experiments with launching and you got this homey :)


Nathan

[crohnman6]

yeah i might try and go again next week if i can get my extra ex tranny in by the end of the night i couldnt get it into 2nd at those rpms no mater how hard i pulled and it had started to grind going into 3rd

[njn63]

I can hit a 0.1 light pretty easily myself. So it annoys me when the track is running the .500 rule.


Um... it doesn't change when you launch at all. They just subtract the .400/.500 from your time on the timeslip to make it easier to read.

[DirtyDC4]

The whole .500 or .000 thing is so fucking stupid. They're the same to me.

If you're at track A and you cut a .213, that's the same as a .713 at track B. Plain and simple.

[mugenej8power]

pretty good.

i ran 16.3 w/ intake and exhaust on the ol D.. hoping to hit low 15's one day :(

[crohnman6]

I'm sure that i could hit mid to low mid 15's with better launch and R/T and with my other tranny hopefully next time the light bars is fucked up and i have my toehr tranny in

[njn63]

R/T has nothing to do with ET.

[95 R-81 Cx]

Yeah, I agree you should be doing 15.7 at least or even lower. Take a look at the thread about Drag Racing Tips there was good stuff like preloading and just general small tips that I found to be a good read. Sorry I don;t have the link maybe someone else does.

[jimmyb34]

i suck at driving too lol.. practice makes perfect is all i can say.. from last time i hit the track to now i am a lot better of driver in my eg
keep doing what you can to practice..

[93civiccx]

first off the idea that anything under .500 being a redlight is false. my best firends girlfriend, yes shes a female. has ran numerous .001 reaction times. shes a drag racing phenom.

99% of the tracks in the U.S. use a .500 tree for street and bracket cars with .500 being a perfect reaction. Drag radial, pro street, pro mod, ihra, nhra, funny car, top fuel, and so on use a .400 tree also called a pro tree. Sometimes it shows up as .00#'s, but only on a pro tree.

[93civiccx]

Yeah, I agree you should be doing 15.7 at least or even lower. Take a look at the thread about Drag Racing Tips there was good stuff like preloading and just general small tips that I found to be a good read. Sorry I don;t have the link maybe someone else does.

http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48062&highlight=drag+racing

[crohnman6]

yeah i have plans for next week to get my tranny in but i wont make it to the strip by then 'll have to wait til the week after. I hope this tranny doesnt grind like the last one the guy swore the last one didnt and it did so who knows about this one.

[crohnman6]

this track doesnt use the .500 rule

[Misfit]

Sticky tires (read: BFG, bad ass f-ing grip), and a few experiments with launching and you got this homey :)


Nathan

very very true. great tires. nitto 555rs are the best if your making enough power to put them to good use

[Misfit]

ive never been to a trak that uses that .500 rule. ive only been to three differnt ones though two 8th miles and a 1/4 mile one

[transzex]

99% of the tracks now use .000 for the RT.......just a number though.......I still leave when the last yellow comes on :)

[crohnman6]

yeah me too

[TurboCivic95]

As said a few times before your reaction time doesnt factor in to your 1/4 mile time. The time for the 1/4 doesnt start until your tires leave the contact area of the beam at the starting line, so you could sit there for 5 minutes after the light turns green and still run a 16 second pass. Dont worry about your reaction time, focus on your launch....you can definatley improve on that 2.5. I pulled 2.1-2.2 60's all day long in my coupe when it was stock on street tires. Keep the motor around 5500-6000 rpms when your launching and slip the clutch for a few feet. Dont rev it up and just dump it....thats not going to do anything but make you spin, wheel hop, or break something. Just practice, theres a fine line between riding the clutch too much and not enough, you'll get it down.

[Misfit]

As said a few times before your reaction time doesnt factor in to your 1/4 mile time. The time for the 1/4 doesnt start until your tires leave the contact area of the beam at the starting line, so you could sit there for 5 minutes after the light turns green and still run a 16 second pass. Dont worry about your reaction time, focus on your launch....you can definatley improve on that 2.5. I pulled 2.1-2.2 60's all day long in my coupe when it was stock on street tires. Keep the motor around 5500-6000 rpms when your launching and slip the clutch for a few feet. Dont rev it up and just dump it....thats not going to do anything but make you spin, wheel hop, or break something. Just practice, theres a fine line between riding the clutch too much and not enough, you'll get it down.


agreed 100%

[sohc head]

With some practice on launching and shifting you should be albe to hit the 15's. I've ran 15.7 at only 84 mph before but I had a 60' of 2.3 With some practice you should really be able to get you times to drop.

[skate4life]

I got a 16.6 at 83mph with my 94 dx coupe with full interior, full size spare, with ram air intake and catback, and short throw shifter. I don't remember my 60ft i think it was 2.3 but not 100%

with a minime with full exhaust, some suspension, camed and ex/si tranny i think you should have pulled a better time than that

[lsturbohatch10]

The whole .500 or .000 thing is so fucking stupid. They're the same to me.

If you're at track A and you cut a .213, that's the same as a .713 at track B. Plain and simple.

it all depends on the light setup. the 3 2 1 light is a .5 RT light. and i have hit many .5xx times. the 3 GO light is a .400 RT. Some tracks are dumb and say a .000 is a perfect light. but actually the computer just retards the clock .5 or .4 to make up for the time it takes for your head to see the green and your foot to move. if the lights are set up right, i dont think there are many hondas that are supposed to run on the 3 GO light.

[88cr-rex]

your 1/8 trap speed is enough to go low 10.2s . . . maybe high 10.1s.

As stated before, the key to a better ET is your 60ft.
On street tires with a stock 96 HX, exhaust and ebay intake the car went a 10.61 @ 65.6 mph with a 2.38 60ft.

[lsturbohatch10]

for some reason i feel that you should be doing way better with that setup. i ran a 10.6 in the 1/8th with my bone stock d15b8 and pulled a 9.62 with a bone stock ls