ImBack: New NONVTEC Setup no 56k

[BigTuna]

Hey Allmotor D-Heads here is a lil write up on my new nonvtec setup.

Head: D16A6 milled 0.079 ( 79K)
SBC Valve Springs
Honda Valve Seal
Honda Y8 Head Gasket
Stock Ports
Crane 14 cam w/ AEM Cam Gear
Z6 Intake Manifold and 4-1 Header


Short Block D16Z6 (this motor has over 80 passes on it)
Nippon Std P-29's
Hasting Rings
ARP Rod bolts
ARP Head Studs
Crx HF Timing belt ( THANK YOU BISI 4 ADVICE)
Z6 Water Pump
Z6 Harmonic Balancer

Having milled the head to a extreme I had to find a shorter timing belt, notch both the intake manifold and header due to hitting the block, and a few other minor mods. I clayed the motor and have plenty of valve clearance but I will be running a shorter strap spark plug because of piston to plug clearance. I will keep you all informed I am prob going to have the motor running by weekend.

Here is a few pics
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE013.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE016.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE018.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE019.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE021-1.jpg

[Dibble]

Cool.

Why did you get rid of the vtec? Just wondering. I know vtec is over rated and drag racing is about lowend power. Im just wondering.

[ryan89crx]

damn, thats a lot of material taken off that head!!

good luck with it :TU:

[bricheun]

Thats what what my head looked like when I milled 0.85mm. It was not round anymore, so I took a small dremel bit and took off the sharp edges around the valve making it more rounder.
Then used a 3 layer metal gasket.

[Misfit]

thats flat out sexy

[BigTuna]

Um Im not a big VTEC fan to start with and wasnt impressed with my old vtec d16. Plus I roll with a group of nonvtec guys who post big numbers, 300 plus hp boosted stock LS motors and the chasis I now own was one of if not the fastest allmotor nonvtec B20's in the world (12.1 @ 111). So I thought I would give it a try, plus it was cheap. The entire head cost me 300 start to finish including the Crane 14 cam I picked up for 75 w/ AEM cam gear.

This motor is test bed for alot of one off parts I am going to try, some home grown R&D. Pretty much this is stock Si motor with a mild cam and extremely high compression so I will just have to see how it works and how the car reacts on the strip.

[Dibble]

Good luck dude, Im looking forward to seeing what you put down.

[civic97]

wow good setup:TU:. keep us updated.

[SOHC_Rules]

whats the compression on this thing?

[transzex]

and I thought my P29's sticking up .052 was bad, could have shaved a little more :)

14:1+ compression is my guess :)

hugefishy, SBC valve springs? plus explain......you don't mean Chebie springs right?

[sl@sh]

wow big tuna... awesome , simply awesome...

u werent that impressed with ur old set-up... but to most... a 13second sohc motor.. is impressive.. hehe..

cant w8t what this puts down in the 1/4mile hehe

SBC? small Bomb chebie? hehe kidding..

cant w8t to go non vtec too...

keep it up!

[rushi]

Looks really nice, that's something similar I'm gonna do with my D15 8)

Why did you leave the ports stock? Racing class rules or something?

There's one thing I really can't understand;
WTF point there is to use big-port intake manifold in the small-port head?! Why ppl can't realize, what kind of disaster it is for flow? Nothing personal ofcourse, I would be grateful if someone could tell me a reason for that kind of nonsense.

[BigTuna]

Not Small block chevy, Im not that much of a mad scientist :-). SBC is aftermarket company that makes oem replacement vavletrain ect. Nothing special just some replacement stock stuff with a few twists :-).

I checked the intake manifold gasket on both the intake manifold and the head and I didnt noticed a huge difference if any. How difference have you found? I just had good luck with Z6 manifold so I was gonna give it a try again. Im all ears...

As for the head staying stock, I wanted to have a good starting point then see how the car reacts to a good port job, flat faced valve, different intake manfolds ect. If your setup start with a bunch of different mods already on the motor then you need find out what works or what didnt make a difference. Knowledge is power....

[robb600]

nice build can't wait to see the numbers it puts down

[rushi]

I checked the intake manifold gasket on both the intake manifold and the head and I didnt noticed a huge difference if any. How difference have you found? I just had good luck with Z6 manifold so I was gonna give it a try again. Im all ears...

IIRC my Z6 intake port and IM gasket was 44mm wide, and port at my D15B2 head and D16A7 IM was only 40mm wide. That is a huge difference in these things. I still haven't Z6 IM, but looking for one. Port size in head must always be slightly bigger than manifold for proper operation.


As for the head staying stock, I wanted to have a good starting point then see how the car reacts to a good port job, flat faced valve, different intake manfolds ect. If your setup start with a bunch of different mods already on the motor then you need find out what works or what didnt make a difference. Knowledge is power....

Yep, that makes a lot of sense, just the right way of approaching. Just gonna get costly in terms of HGs, if you're not using something re-usable. Dunno how well those OEM MLS gaskets keep when used multiple times. Cometics work in racing, and OEM is very close the same construction. Are you using some copper spray gasket with it?

[BigTuna]

As for the intake manifold, I pulled mine off and compared it to a D16A6 intake manifold. I can not find on any of the ports a huge difference between the two manifolds. Maybe on a few areas the Z6 might be 1/32 bigger but its close if not completely perfect on 90%. I saw no pressing need why the Z6 wouldnt work so I reinstalled it.

As for head gaskets, I run OEM Honda gaskets with a sealant applied to it, I reuse them 2 times. I havent had one issue with resusing honda mls gaskets.

Just my 2 cents and experiences

[BigTuna]

Well its alive and oh my does it sound good. Cant wait to dyno it and get some passes before the snow comes.
Here is a idle clip at around 1000 rpm

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/th_RACE024.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/?action=view&current=RACE024.flv)

and a finished engine shot
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE023.jpg

[gloryhog]

wow ... thing sounds nasty...Get a driving vid....FTW of coarse:TU:

[vtecencrx]

wow ... thing sounds nasty...Get a driving vid....FTW of coarse:TU:

x2... :TU:

[Misfit]

wow ... thing sounds nasty...Get a driving vid....FTW of coarse:TU:

really, i wanna see this thing in action. i want to hear it run too

[" Low "]

weaksauce.....big smelly fish.....:haha:

i like it mang..... hurry up with the action vids already.....

[the twanksta]

I cant wait till mine sounds like that again!

[jimmyb34]

damn that thing sounds sick.. so what are you hoping to run how it sits? or its basically just testing out for baselines?

[BigTuna]

Me and a bunch of friends have a private track rental on the 29th, so hopefully I can dyno it next week.

I dunno what it will make or what it will run, I just put setups together and see how the car reacts to them.

[sl@sh]

pls do ITB's on this, hehe she wud so rip!!

[SLO SOHC]

Damn that thing sounds mean how can i get my vtec engine to sound like that?

[myHonda1]

are you using a Z6 tranny too?

[BigTuna]

ya Z6 trans with a welded diff, and slo sohc if your want your engine to sound like that you have to jump off the vtec bandwagon.

As for ITBs, they dont work on the kind of setup and power band I want to build. Im gonna stick with the CAI-OEM style intake manifold for now.

[lsturbohatch10]

what ignition setup is that. i am thinking of converting to coilpacks on my setup. my dizzy has a bearing in it thats making noise, so i want to decide soon

[BigTuna]

Electromotive Tec-2 very simple and cheap

[BigTuna]

lil update, 2moro I get to finally dyno the car. I made a few changes to the setup before the dyno. I built a set of custom 8.8 mm race wires and changed the intake to a cold air intake. Also hooked up a DC Sports exhaust (2inch), no cat. I am competing in a Imports vs Dumbmestic Street Car event on Nov 5 so I have to set the car up w/ full exhaust and interior.

Wish me luck on the dyno....

[robb600]

good luck

[Acid X]

Oh man, i'm looking forward to the results on this. Jebus... HUGE compression!!

[s_18]

Damn, it sounds somewhat like a Harley or something...
Looking forward to seeing an action video here aswell :TU:

[B16KILLA]

that thing sounds wicked! cant wait to see it run. gj

[Rease3]

good luck. wanna c drivin vids and pix of it put all back together

[mindless]

Good luck on the dyno BT. Sounds sick!

[rushi]

Damn I love that sound. I hoped my Z6 would sound like that with Crower Stage 3, but I got badly disappointed :(

Pls take some video from dyno run, and good luck dude :TU:

[bartek_b]

Car sounds beefy...can't wait for HP/TQ figures

[BigTuna]

Well after about 2hrs on the dyno I am a very happy man, the car made 135.8 hp and 117.5 lbs trq. It made that power on 93 pump and through a 2inch exhaust. For being a very simple budget setup I was stoked for see that kind of power and torque.

I wish my dyno guy would get his printer fix cause the hp and tq curve was a thing of beauty. It makes over 130 hp from 5200 to 7200 and the entire tq curve was moved up between 10 - 15 lbs the entire graph compared to my vtec head.

NONTVEC 300 dollar setup 135 hp 117 tq
VTEC 1500 dollar setup 131 hp 106 tq

Its a no brainer...

Hope it doesnt rain out the track tonight

[robb600]

siiiiick. lets get some vids of it at the track tonight:bravo:

[mindless]

Nice numbers man. Now we need track vids!

[BigTuna]

Friggin raining here, oh well I have a track rental on sunday.

If anyone wants to make big power with a very simple setup just mimic my build.

[Steve-O]

this is very intriguing. my eh2 came with a d15b7 and after reading your build, it's definitely given me something to think about ;)

ok, i will admit that i too went through an anti-vtec phase. i helped a friend build and install a newer low kms '97 b18b into his '96 teg. plan was i would buy his old engine for dirt cheap when it was out but as luck would have it, his newer engine (being from an auto recycling yard) required us to commandeer several parts from the old engine to complete the install. so i passed on it since it would cost me too much to replace what we used :sadface:. i like the idea of an LS engine because aside from a mount kit, the 95 obd1 engine is a full drop-in swap and turbo ready right out of the box :TU:.

[transzex]

I hope for even more out of my D15B7 when done, but doubt I'll get the 117 tq unless I go ITBs, my goal is 145 whp and 13.99 in the 1/4 mile with my car as it is now, just add slicks.

DOWN WITH VTEC!

[siregcivic]

NONTVEC 300 dollar setup 135 hp 117 tq
VTEC 1500 dollar setup 131 hp 106 tq

Its a no brainer...


damn tuna... thats very nice you made 11 ft pounds more then the old setup... ive been thinking of taking the y8 head off my z6 and running an a6 with zc cam... i bet its easier to tune non vtec also

anyways good numbers man.. id like to see what it does at the track:TU:

[transzex]

prove to me the ZC cam is better.........

Really, once I get back on me feet I'll paythe shipping to/from just to find out the truth. I doubt the ZC cam is better, but I could and have been wrong).

$8.10 to ship flat rate box USPS, my plan is to cover shipping both ways plus a little for beer (if your drink) and a little food.

Before spring I hope to be able to inquire about cams for testing, including exospeed (please Wil!) 909......

[BigTuna]

Shit I would try any cam, gotta be big and mean tho :-)

The nonvtec power band was a broad hump with a very flat apex, the vtec power band was a pointy peak. At 5k i made almost 10 more whp now than with the vtec head.

[Black91CRXsi]

Hey tuna, isnt the Crane 0014 a turbo cam?

[transzex]

yep....

I've got a bigger stick :)

Crane 251-0016.....get you mind out of the gutter :)

[Black91CRXsi]

I wish i could find a 0016... I had one watched on Ebay but I missed the end of the auction. It went for $220 brand new in box...i'm so ashamed...

[BigTuna]

I got my cam for 75 bucks with a AEM cam gear, I cant complain

[90JDMED3]

Good luck wit it...

[Drag4life723]

I got my cam for 75 bucks with a AEM cam gear, I cant complain

damn what a deal that sweet. i got my delta 282 grind on a discount $107 including shipping i cant complain but i paid more for my skunk 2 cam gear.

BTW nice as car and i hope u do good NON Vtec for life!

RC

[transzex]

I didn't pay anything for my 251-0016.......I did build a SCCA National Event winning tranny though.

[Drag4life723]

I didn't pay anything for my 251-0016.......I did build a SCCA National Event winning tranny though.

well nobody likes u anyway....:cry:

shit i would give u a few cams if u make me a trans u name u got it.

[BigTuna]

Well I took it to the track today, it went 8.75 to 1/8 at 76.5 mph which is a little slower than my old setup but there is alot of little adjustments left. Plus today there was a crazy head wind sobad that they wouldnt let anyone run the full 1/4. I am going to leave it alone til I have a normal day at the track.

But on a positive not I cut my first 1.7 60', it went a 1.79 on 20x8x14's

[4Door Life]

<--- i think my avatar says it all...lol

nice thread, i have a Ls motor now and im trin to get a new head so i can have it built... the motor allready has eagle rods and high comp pistons and i would love to turbo it, but im not sure what im going to do as far as cams are concerned...

[BigTuna]

Crower 404's love boost

[Acid X]

So what would 8 seconds translate to in the quarter mile.. A low 14?

I dont do much 1/8th mile racing.

[BigTuna]

8.75 is a about a 13.80 pass, estimation of course. I should be going to the track friday night so it will be nice to make a few passes. Plus I just picked up a set of Bogart 13" race wheels with M&H 22x8x13 slicks, I want to see if the taller tire helps or hurts.

[allmotorsohcisbest]

Congratulations on the build. Although I dont see why you dislike VTEC so much. But everyone has there own opinons.

[Steve-O]

Congratulations on the build. Although I dont see why you dislike VTEC so much. But everyone has there own opinons.aside from the PGM-FI, wouldn't a non-vtec engine with ITBs basically be the same concept in a smaller package as domestic muscle car engines?

no computers, no fuel maps, no sensors, just the engine, fuel, air, ignition and the driver at the throttle?

[BigTuna]

Congratulations on the build. Although I dont see why you dislike VTEC so much. But everyone has there own opinons.

I dont dislike it, I just think its over rated. I like the simplicity of nonvtec.

[Steve-O]

I dont dislike it, I just think its over rated. I like the simplicity of nonvtec.vtec can be pretty finicky and if the ecu doesn't see optimum or safe conditions for it, it disables it and wham, you now have a 1.6L non-vtec engine :p

[Black91CRXsi]

So what would 8 seconds translate to in the quarter mile.. A low 14?

I dont do much 1/8th mile racing.

13's for sure...

[93delsolvtec]

im doing the same setup right now with the nippon p29's, y8 hg, zex/comp. stg. 1 (53100), str cg, and a .030" mill. how much comp. you running and whats your ignition set at....pm me and give me the run down on what your doing....im waiting until spring to drop all my parts in...let me know...that thing sounds bad ass, love the lumpy idle:TU:

[sl@sh]

aside from the PGM-FI, wouldn't a non-vtec engine with ITBs basically be the same concept in a smaller package as domestic muscle car engines?

no computers, no fuel maps, no sensors, just the engine, fuel, air, ignition and the driver at the throttle?

i think u meant dual sidedraft carbs like weber with individual runners,

ITB (efi) still uses the ecu , sensors and tps


- i think a non vtec engine with ITB's wud be more closer to bike engines in concept, more like glorified bike motors, i think bisi said that too hehehe

[BigTuna]

Well Im off to the track tonight, Im hoping for some mid 13's.

Check out the new Bogarts and Slicks BLING BLING
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE044.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE045.jpg

[turboedpickup]

good luck! can't wait to see the numbers.

[BigTuna]

Yippeee Wahooo

It went a 13.51 at 98.1 mph w/ a 1.74 60'


Wow I had a great day at the track until my ETD crossmember/traction bar
snapped a radius rod at the 1000' at about 90 mph. With the weld dif the car lurched right and I almost pinstriped it on the jersey wall. Apon a closer inspection the one bar snapped at the adjuster and the other bar is bent horribly at the same point as the broken one. I am going to get on the phone first thing tom. and see what the deal is with them, at min I want a new set of bars if they bend again I want money back.

[Genuine Rolla]

thats crazy man. that header has seen better days..!

[BigTuna]

she is a old faithful... Im not a bling person, I put the car together to throw down on the track not win carshows.

[siregcivic]

vtec can be pretty finicky and if the ecu doesn't see optimum or safe conditions for it, it disables it and wham, you now have a 1.6L non-vtec engine :p

yep... thats for sure.. im still trying to figure out why sometimes my vtec wont engage on my turbo'd car no cel's either.. kinda pisses me off..

anyway back to the post lol..

tuna.. thats a bitchen time for non vtec goodluck with the traction bar issue

[W8N4Boost]

she is a old faithful... Im not a bling person, I put the car together to throw down on the track not win carshows.
Function>Form anyday. Love what you've done, keep it up
:TU:

[turboedpickup]

sick :shocked:!

[91HB-D15b2]

soooo makes me want to build my zc and mill the fuck outa the head...but i just dont wanna do that to my $700 motor lol

[BigTuna]

Carnaged Crossmember
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE058.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE060.jpg

Here a good engine bay shot
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/RACE061.jpg

[the twanksta]

Which traction bars are those? Were they hitting the oil pan or shock forks?

[BigTuna]

They are ETD traction bars, and no the didnt hit anything. After removing them I was suprised how soft the metal was where the threads are, ETD answering machine says they are all at sema, hopefully they will refund my money. It looks like everytime I launch it hard on the slicks the control arm would push foward (new control arms) and the radius rods just started to bend rather than tranfer the force to crossmember. I want to buy a fullrace or Z10 bar now...

[the twanksta]

My buddy just got the full race bars, he went with the Z10 bars at first, then ran into fitment issues(oil pan requiring notching). So he sent them back and got the full race bars which clear the oil pan but they still had a lil trouble getting them to fit right. they are on his car now, well see how they work out!

[commandoBear]

thats about the same engine im putting together but im using a z6 head. good times too, i was wondering what the car would run. how heavy is your car? any weight reduction?

[BigTuna]

Yes is has weight reduction, it weighs 2000 lbs with me in it damn SI's are a tank.

[sl@sh]

congratz on that mid 13s time

whats amazing about this is, this is all on a stock port a6 head,

right?

[BigTuna]

Yup, stock unported head.

Well yesterday I competed in the final event of the year, its called Imports vs Domestic. The class I ran is was Street Stock which includes Type-R, GSR's, RSX's, S2000's, V6 Maximas, VR6 VW ect. It was a awesome event,I qualified 8th with 13.77 out of probably 25-30 cars. First round I was put up a against a 13.81 V6 Maxima on drag radials. I cut him down on the tree and won that round w/ a 13.69, which was great. Next round I was put up against a good friend of mines 12.0 Type-R, I attempted to cut him down hard at the tree but left a little early and red lit.

All in all it was a great event and I got alot of compliments and attention with the D. I suprised me how many people are still interested in building there D's and are open to talk about it.

When the event posts some pics ect I will link them.

[Drag4life723]

congrats man with the work cant wait to see what u put up to the plate next year man keep up the good work.

RC

[sl@sh]

man that class ur in, ur the ONLY D?

hehehe congratz, glad u had fun at the event

[BigTuna]

There was one other D but he didnt qualify, so yep I was the only D series.

[sl@sh]

man with sum portwork, im sure that thing wud get wild on the track hehe

that much of a compression surely wud want to breathe,


cant w8t to see what u do next,

[Dibble]

Sweet, Im nonvtec now as well after bending vavles trying something new. Everytime I get a idea I end up braking something.

[BigTuna]

congrats man with the work cant wait to see what u put up to the plate next year man keep up the good work.

RC


Thanks, as for next year I have big plans :-)

[superdewey58]

^^^ i think kyle was looking 4 u

[BigTuna]

Kyle?

[BigTuna]

Heres a pic of the event I competed in last weekend.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/quick85supra/mirdragpic.jpg

[Clutchmaster]

great looking build what else are you gonna do with it

[BigTuna]

For now prob a Delta 282 cam w/ port work and build another bottem end with some ARP's and SRP 11:1's. Nothing drastic I like baby step changes so I can learn what works and what doesnt work.

[93civiccx]

Congrats on the 13.51. I just saw that in your sig.

[boostdeliquent]

This is a bad ass build. Good luck with the future steps on it.

[transzex]

steps?

Like a stepped header combo?

hehe.......should be quiet now..........for now :)

[BigTuna]

steps?

Like a stepped header combo?

hehe.......should be quiet now..........for now :)

:stfu: lol its all good

[TRU]

My boys went to Imports vs. Domestics, and took some pics of your car. I wish i coulda gone, but im down here in Hampton Roads for school. Ill prolly see your car at MIR or ODS or sumerduck or w/e if you race there when i go home to NoVA.

[cheap4dr]

sick fuckin car!

[BigTuna]

Thanks wait til I show you guys the new chasis and the new motor setup for 07 8)

[Dibble]

You should put some n2o on that bad boy. Just to see if it will hold together.

[BigTuna]

Nope that motor is going in my girls crx so she can run Nopi Chic 8)

[CrxKev]

Nope that motor is going in my girls crx so she can run Nopi Chic 8)

I want that motor! Would it be good for a DD?

[Dibble]

Nope that motor is going in my girls crx so she can run Nopi Chic 8)

Thats even better. :TU::TU::TU:

[BigTuna]

Well there is no NOPI CHIC next year so I might sell the short block and or the head. Anyone interested?

Also I am torn between building a Prostock CRX with my new D setup or I might leave it a street car and continue running street events. I have 2 CRX's now, the new one is caged and has all kind of goodies. Plus I have a complete MB fiberglass CRX front end and a carbon fiber CRX hatch sitting in the rafters of my garage. Too many toys 8)

[kyle h.]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/kylehable/DSCN0715.jpg

[Dibble]

Street cars are much more fun IMO.

[cheap4dr]

tuna yr car looks sick staged up thar

[kyle h.]

^^ I wish I could have gotten better ones, but I was pretty drunk by that time :alky:

the stairs on the bleachers would have been a death trap

[BigTuna]

LOL all my boys were drunk that day, thank for the pics man

[boostdeliquent]

Bump, so I don't have to look. There's good info in this thread.

[BigTuna]

Thanks for the bump, in the next 2 or 3 weeks I am going to swap in bisimoto Stage 2 cam. Hopefully cam will fit with some minor massaging of the piston, my piston to valve clearance is tight with 80k milled and P-29's. Also gonna to try 3 different intake manifolds and maybe some ITB's, different intake tubes, and a few other trick to see what works. Probably going to spend a few hours on the dyno trying different setups.

I will post up my competely new car and setup for 07 probably around mid to late Feb, so in the mean time I am going do some R&D on the old car and motor.

[cheap4dr]

can u post yr last dyno of the d16a6???

[BigTuna]

I wish my dyno guy would get his printer fix cause the hp and tq curve was a thing of beauty. It makes over 130 hp from 5200 to 7200 and the entire tq curve was moved up between 10 - 15 lbs the entire graph compared to my vtec head. The powerband was a broad hump and not peeky like the vtec setup. The nonvtec setup went 2/10's faster at the track with a full 2 inch exhaust on it.

Hopefully with the Bisimoto Stage 2 cam and few other mods the motor will wake up some more. Im gonna keep pushing the setup and leave it on pump gas, uported head, and stock intake manifold to see where the envelope is.

My motor setup for 07 should be fun... Thank You Bisimoto

[devere]

Ive been watching this thread a lot. Loving the work going in here.
Im hoping to have my Y7 build will turn out in a similar way with the Bisi level 3 cam, when i finally get that tuned!

But let us know how the level 2 goes. I can see the power your making is just going to keep going up!

[Belette]

The only thing about a6 head is valve size, z/y series have +1mm bigger. I think that the gain at higher rpm range could be little bit better with larger valves.

[BigTuna]

Yes but that is 1mm closer to the cylinder walls...

[gerry mulligan]

you have a sick car man :TU: :TU: love this thread

[vtec-e94hatch]

anymore vids on this one havent heard anything from you in a while

[BigTuna]

well is snowing in my neck of the woods and the tracks have been closed since November and wont open til April so I have been working on my new chasis and setup for next year. In the next week or so I going to start a new thread showing my new setup and to post the progress on my new chasis ect. I have big plans for 07 thanks to Bisi and a few others who are working with me and lending their advice in the last few months.

I have a new chasis that I am setting up with a completely new motor mount system, Hydro conversion, and combine everything in a very clean package. The motor will stay a D16A6.

Here is a short list of the setup

Bisimoto Custom 14.x:1 Gas Ported and Coated Pistons (76mm)
Rev Forged Rod
KMS Blockguard

Ported A6 Head
Bisimoto Valve Springs and Retainors
Bisimoto Stage 2 Cam to start with, then Stage 3
Bisimoto Cam Gear
Rev Stainless Valves

Misc:
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Blox Intake Manifold
Meziere Electric Water Pump
Sumped Tank w/Inline Fuel Pump
Venom Fuel Rail
Tilton Race Clutch Pedal Assemby
RC 370cc Injectors
Modified Alternator

LOL and thats the short list... Stay Tuned

[jimmyb34]

sounds like a nice build man.. got any expecations time wise or just gonan find out what ya run and go from there?

[kyle h.]

goals for power output?

[ezeedee]

that car is totally badass!

[BigTuna]

As for goals... Im not a fan of saying look at my project I want to go "x" Times and make "X" power. I would rather build it to the best of my ability and see what it does on the dyno. Then drive it to the best of my ability and see what the timeslips says. I would rather show what I can do rather than say what Im going to do.

[singlecizam]

that header looks familiar.....

[BigTuna]

that header looks familiar.....

LOL its a JUNK R-1 4-1 header, I plan on cutting it up and adding a bigger collector and change the primaries til I can afford a Bisimoto header.

[envious_ek]

dam i am now motivated to work on my d series ...
whered you pick up those headers from?

[BigTuna]

R-1 or Bisimoto? The R-1 is junk from 5 years ago, and the header I hope to buy is found at http://www.bisimoto.com.

[fade2blk500]

Sick ass build man.

[spoonferio]

that thing is crazzzzzzy

[remoer]

that real sweet tuna. i will say that. can wait till i hear the sound clip w/ the stage 3.

[crooked muffla]

awesome thread

hey tuna if u ever get the dyno sheet on the www

put it on my old thread http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38512

i kno u posted yr numbers on there already and i thank you, u hav a sick setup and I cant wait til the new one comes along!

and i love writing this

up with no tec
down with vtec

[transzex]

I'll bet the new numbers once built never get listed here.

[sl@sh]

I'll bet the new numbers once built never get listed here.


id bet on that too.. haha

[vtec-d]

tuna,
what happen if use y8 intake manifold? is it will gain more hp than z6 int. mani.?

[BigTuna]

I like the z6 better for an average NA build, just my 2cents

[strykersd]

Can I ask why you went with the CRX HF timing belt?

[BigTuna]

Since I milled the head .079 or nearly 2mm it made the Z6 belt too long since I moved the cam gear closer to the crank. A quick call to Bisi and he said to try the 1.5L timing belt and that fixed my problem, big thanks to him for the advice. I had to notch the intake manifold and notch the block for the header flange.

[transzex]

insane millage.

[BigTuna]

Old setup insane milling, New motor insane piston dome. I think I am addicted to compression :)

[ja_lee]

Keep up the good work man