View Full Version : Which Intake Manifold???
Jcazz
10-03-2006, 11:30 AM
whats going on D-series, as it seems i have done a 5 speed swap, but i want to pick up an aftermarket intake manifold...i do plan on going turbo in a couple months as well...So with that in mind, Which is the better manifold of choice...i was looking at the Edelbrock and the Skunk 2...I need a GOOD ANSWER here guys...i need someone with Exp and mabe Dyno numbers...no BS!!! I will also be going OBD-1 with a Uberdata tune...I have herd that the Skunk2 Rips at High RPM but low-mid isnt so impressive...As far as the Edelbrock goes...i am not sure here either...Remeber guys, i want this mani to be good N/a as well as Forced induction, but which would be the better of the 2 to get this task completed....Thanks much...i am at work as well so search time is limited and i will try and check back as soon as i can...
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Jcazz
10-03-2006, 01:08 PM
knock knock anyone home>?>? bump! help!
Misfit
10-03-2006, 07:47 PM
search. this has been covered a 100000 times, skunk2 vs edelbrock. i say edelbrock though. im not crazy about skunk2 products not that its a bad IM at all
Diabolic02
10-03-2006, 08:01 PM
Between the two I would go with skunk2 It's all on preference both manifolds are actually very reputable. I like an OBX manifold myself
nathan
10-04-2006, 12:02 AM
The Edelbrock is superior in EVERY way to the skunk2. period. Skunk2 is just a pathetic modified ITR copy made to fit a d16 head, there is nothing tuned or quality about it. OBX - complete trash, would be better off with a stocker and a dremel given to a kid with a nervous twitch.
The edelbrock is a little more difficult to work with, but is far superior in craftmanship, DESIGN (I could go on and on for hours), and it was actually developed by real engineers specifically for the D16Y8 motor. (IF you're using a diff. motor then this will be a lesser important issue).
Nathan
Jcazz
10-04-2006, 07:30 AM
Yes i know this topic has been coverd 1000 MILLION TIMES!!! but damnit guys, trying to search for the right conclusion i am looking for doesnt come up....
I want to know really at What RPM Range both these manifolds shine well at..
I am N/a for the time being, but in a couple months hopfully will go turbo..
nathan
10-04-2006, 09:02 AM
The only thing you're going to get for RPM ranges on these is speculation as I doubt anyone here has the proper equipment nor the genuine knowledge to calculate that information for you.
I will tell you that Edelbrock does, however, and they designed their manifold for a stock rev range with a slightly raised redline.... ie, perfect for ANY NA build as I've never seen one here that was reving beyond 8500.
Skunk2 is junk for any rev range. I stand by that too. Sure it's better than stock, in some cases, but it's still just a slapped together part that skunk2 only sells to make a quick buck..period.
Nathan
Misfit
10-04-2006, 09:05 AM
you could always wait it out and buy the whole edelbrock turbo kit.... its pretty nice, and if you dont have any experience on putting togather a turbo kit it would be alot easier for you.
rushi
10-04-2006, 10:02 AM
What makes Skunk2 and Edelbrock manifolds so different, that another one is crap and another excellent?
I personally don't have, or have ever seen them IRL, but I've seen many pictures and read many specs on the net. Both seem to have 9" long runners (which I have too in my ITB setup and seem to work well), plenum size/volume looks similar, both have approx. same size TB inlet etc... Never seen them inside, how big radius/taper those runners have. Both are made for Z6/Y8 head, so I think runners would be pretty much same diameter.
So, what is the difference? Dyno-graphs, flow bench chart or something?
Rexinre
10-04-2006, 10:13 AM
A flow test was done on both systems on H-t. If I remember correctly the Edelbrock IM out flowed the Skunk under FI. That is all that I remember. Also, the Edelbrock IM was engineered for FI applications.
Hope this helps.
Oh yeah and this topic has been covered a billion times before.
Jcazz
10-04-2006, 10:58 AM
Thank you guys for your input, yes agian!! i dooo! understand that it has been covered 1000 million times, but looking for the specific information that needs to be answerd isnt there....As far as both the intake manis go, i think i am going to go with the Edelbrock mani, as it seems that it was desgined for FI, and also has a better power band through somewut a stock revving engine..7800RPMS is good enough, R/s on this engine isnt realling desgined to go to much further than that, Plus my head is stock expect for a very nice Port and polish job....All i have herd so far is really mixed opinions on Skunk 2's product, and in most cases people saying the Edelbrock is a nicer mani...Edelbrock has also been around for alot longer, they prove there products, there Turbo kit DEF shines, yup EDELBROCK it is!! ohh yeah and Skunk 2 cam sucks balls for the D16y8 anyways..haha..DESCISION MADE thanks guys! :mikej:
rushi
10-04-2006, 01:36 PM
A flow test was done on both systems on H-t. If I remember correctly the Edelbrock IM out flowed the Skunk under FI. That is all that I remember. Also, the Edelbrock IM was engineered for FI applications.
Hope this helps.
Oh yeah and this topic has been covered a billion times before.
What kind of flow test? Just constant flow, without taking account the pulsating nature of intake flow? By what means EB is "engineered for FI applications"? What actually makes difference in "proper" NA or FI intake manifold? And where did you get the information EB manifold being engineered for FI? Their www site says "The Performer X Series manifold is ideal for all-motor and turbo applications."
I could see, that it's generally preferred to have smaller diameter and propably slighly longer runners in (low performance)turbo applications, and I have seen both very small and very big plenums on turbo setups (oem, aftermarket and racing). This doesn't seem to be case here, both manifolds being similar in sizes.
Sorry about repeating, if this particular topic has already been covered many times.
Special K
10-04-2006, 02:24 PM
The Edelbrock is superior in EVERY way to the skunk2. period. Skunk2 is just a pathetic modified ITR copy made to fit a d16 head, there is nothing tuned or quality about it. OBX - complete trash, would be better off with a stocker and a dremel given to a kid with a nervous twitch.
The edelbrock is a little more difficult to work with, but is far superior in craftmanship, DESIGN (I could go on and on for hours), and it was actually developed by real engineers specifically for the D16Y8 motor. (IF you're using a diff. motor then this will be a lesser important issue).
Nathan
And yet Gloryhog swaped from edelbrock to skunk2 and noticed a difference, and I believe went from 133whp to 140whp...
Jcazz
10-04-2006, 04:52 PM
Acutally, the funny thing is, that the more i learned about car parts and tunning for hondas. the more and more bullshit i herd about Skunk2 and the poor quality control along with products that get outperformed by other companies, to NOT go skunk 2 FTMFW!!
Rexinre
10-05-2006, 06:02 AM
What kind of flow test? Just constant flow, without taking account the pulsating nature of intake flow? By what means EB is "engineered for FI applications"? What actually makes difference in "proper" NA or FI intake manifold? And where did you get the information EB manifold being engineered for FI? Their www site says "The Performer X Series manifold is ideal for all-motor and turbo applications."
I could see, that it's generally preferred to have smaller diameter and propably slighly longer runners in (low performance)turbo applications, and I have seen both very small and very big plenums on turbo setups (oem, aftermarket and racing). This doesn't seem to be case here, both manifolds being similar in sizes.
Sorry about repeating, if this particular topic has already been covered many times.
That is all that I remember.
mugenej8power
10-05-2006, 12:52 PM
damn.. ive been lookin at IM for my N/A D and I was thinkin S2, but now I might have to go edelbrock.. I just dono
Jcazz
10-05-2006, 07:29 PM
Edelbrock FTMFW~!!~!
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